I pvp leveled my jugg from 10 - 50 and will say that pre 50 pvp is different from post 50 pvp

yeah their invurnability talent is insanly strong right now given everything else seems to drop a lot faster

they use their armor pen talent/trinkets/adrenaline with a ravage & force scream combo

I am more upset over how BW is handling this situation. Not so much about the lack of Ranked WZs in 1.2 - aside from the killer such an announcement obviously is after looking forward to ranked WZs for so long. They, imo, knew Ranked Wzs would not make the cut well before today.

hear hear! I really think EA is at fault as well here for pressuring BW - think i will spend some time with a nice pre-EA title by BW - like NVN 2 for a bit

Shingara's positive vibe is starting to rub off on me? Dunno. You are probably right.

Well the promise of ranked WZs with 1.2 kept people in the game for a good 2 months + Ranked WZs were a huge deal for PvPers and I think its ok to blow off some steam / express our dissapointment We were really looking forward to them with 1.2 I actually think it is important to let BW know how we feel about the way they handled the situation.

that sounds horrible I keep hearing great stories of the pre-cu days - once the community picked up a bit and i saw people/friends play the game. Oh well

They should have delayed the patch a week or so in that case - something they did not do - instead of jumping the trap on us like this. I applaud you for your positive take on the situation though (really do no joke)

WoW pulled Path of the Titans well before the release. I have never seen/heard of anything getting pulled 3 hours before a patch/xpac. Mind you i never really played SWG and cant comment on the particulars you mentioned in your post. Wish i had though.

Sorry to say i am on the other side of the fence on that - especially since they have no real ETA for ranked Warzones at this time

Should not spring such news on your player-base at the last minute to grab a month's worth of subs though.

/signed

Well they said from the get-go that Diablo was not a PvP game and that PvP balance was not something they would put resources into - something they mentioned on their Diablo Dev panel @ Blizzcon last year at least they were honest and frankly with GW 2 coming i can handle Diablo 3 being a PVE centric title.

.... Sooo guildies of mine actually mentioned it AFTER i asked whether anyone would like to pvp after 1.2 hits and I SWORE i would get them back for trolling me this is rediculous

just means he pvps and does nothing else while ingame - something a pvper would do - I think its plausible as well

I dont want arena in its traditional "WoW"-specific format because of (1) balance issuse - Swotor would, for arenas to be balanced, be balanced around arenas first and everything else second (2) people may not ask for rewards now but they will (just look at rated WZ - many people asked for a ranked ladder system w/o rewards before they were announced; those people are now asking for more than just cosmetic rewards specific to their ranking), forcing pvpers who dislike this particular format to PvP in arenas to stay on top of the gear-curve. (3) Those who dont arena will, like in wow, be looked down upon. Those are, really, my only concerns. I have no issue with an arena system but i also doubt one can exist without those issues ruining the game.

lol...they should never listen to qq threads but they do I heard operatives are getting nerfed because getting ganked by groups of operatives in PvP is making people quit...wonderful use of metric tools right there

his point goes well with the spirit of Kotor 1 and 2? dunno Playing either a class-less system where you could, say, pick to go down a non-force specific path vs. a force-specific path would have worked for me but so did their current story arch /w classes curious to see how such a class-less system will work /w Secret World

read through parts of your post I really dont think commando troopers are weak like i said i am starting to stray away form a 1v1 philosopy with swotor and commandos are extremely potent in a group setting They may struggle in a 1v1 situation but put two of them on a chat-server to focus fire properly and they shine I do think given them an interrupt would be a nice quality of life change

I am starting to lean towards the its not a 1v1 game I dont stand a chance against a healer of equal gear and skill and put myself at great risk while on a healer - if dps or even a tank notices - because i need to use my cc/interupts/trinkets to burst the healer down If i happen to be the only one on a healer cross-healing is too powerful but that is another topic and one they have to look into ( Think they are in 1.2) if 1v1 is nothing we should worry about - i cant kill anything, they cant kill me very fast, making most pvp matches pretty dreary and boring tab targeting needs to be looked at if swotor takes a team-centric approach to pvp and macros...please for crying out loud - i could also go and buy a naga instead hard-switching can but usually doesnt work because everyone has a "oh **** card" in the form of cc/or a damage reduction cc/speedburst type ability

... are we talking pvp or pve here? I play a Jugg and have a maurauder alt in the works Heavy Armor really means very little due to all sorts of damage types floating around in pvp works a little better in PvE The survivability is, imo, on your side in PVP and on our side in PvE Equip a shield and go into def stance as a Jugg and you can OT a lot in PvE not so much in PVP given Shield Absorb does jack all and our DMG reduction CDs are weak compared to Maras We also have no way to get away

second pic is HOT

way too subjective and very difficult to follow can you be more specific?

I read his first post "Death Match" may have caused a small knee-jerking reaction yes and "Arena" and "afraid your game cant stack up balance-wise" but serisouly such spots exist everywhere on a pvp server - people just have to organize themselves a little bit to get things rolling if they want to the lack of server specific forums hurts ofc but its possible BW making it offical will just lead to huge QQ due to balance issues - something I expect to see with R WZs in 1.2 anyways...