Xinika Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 (edited) ...for looks? Seems like a waste of time. Edit: Have fun wearing your ranked WH gear because it makes you look better than other players. I will be wearing those nifty, nifty liddle level 10 oranges with augment slots.:) Edited March 19, 2012 by Xinika Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNxAres Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 ...for looks? Seems like a waste of time. I agree. No stat change, just from blue to red (trooper gear). I'll be going for Black Hole gear and War Hero gear. Forget Ranked War Hero, it's a waste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xinika Posted March 19, 2012 Author Share Posted March 19, 2012 I agree. No stat change, just from blue to red (trooper gear). I'll be going for Black Hole gear and War Hero gear. Forget Ranked War Hero, it's a waste. I've seen some pointless things but this one? Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xinika Posted March 19, 2012 Author Share Posted March 19, 2012 Anyone else feels the same? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNotorius Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Is the gear's name the same too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exphryl Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 (edited) Anyone else feels the same? I don't see an issue with it really. Rather have a cosmetic view of somebody that is rated fairly well than have a person that is clearly a level above due to gear in PvP. Keeps things more "Skill" (which i use loosely) based for PvP. Edited March 19, 2012 by exphryl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xinika Posted March 19, 2012 Author Share Posted March 19, 2012 Is the gear's name the same too? No! Ranked gear has (Ranked) next to it.:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xinika Posted March 19, 2012 Author Share Posted March 19, 2012 I don't see an issue with it really. Rather have a cosmetic view of somebody that is rated fairly well than have a person that is clearly a level above due to gear in PvP. Keeps things more "Skill" (which i use loosely) based for PvP. ...So I'm about to tryhard ranked wzs to satisfy my ego? Um... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Vicente Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Yes how DARE they make rated PvP about skill instead of out gearing your opponent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cycao Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Pointless, yes. If they had better stats than normal warzone gear there would probably be a lot more complaints on this forum than there are now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Vicente Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 (edited) ...So I'm about to tryhard ranked wzs to satisfy my ego? Um... If you're only in it for the stats on gear, you have no reason to do rated. Simple as that. Rated warzones are for people who like to PvP and want to play competitively. Edited March 19, 2012 by Darth_Vicente Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kugron Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 I personally don't have a problem with this system. What does confuse me is the color superiority system with the gear. I play a juggernaut, and apparently purple(rated WH gear) is superior to dark blue(unrated). Why purple? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xinika Posted March 19, 2012 Author Share Posted March 19, 2012 (edited) If you're only in it for the stats on gear, you have no reason to do rated. Simple as that. Rated warzones are for people who like to PvP and want to play competitively. Then why make it even have a cost if it's the same exact thing? Edited March 19, 2012 by Xinika Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckorforever Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 If im gonna play epeen warzones im gonna play for fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphieokole Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Thats right, the rated is more prestigious. You can work for it, rather than just derp it out for the same stats. Just like with Valor ranks: prestigious titles, lead warzones, and have access to cool vehicles. Oh wait that doesn't work either, because it is now raining valor. Yea I give up, I cant come up with a point on the positive side. Obviously, though if BW thought it was a good idea, it must be genius! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerain Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Then why make it even have a cost if it's the same exact thing? to show that you're better than those people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xinika Posted March 19, 2012 Author Share Posted March 19, 2012 to show that you're better than those people. -_- but I don't care for the ego... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maladon Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 ...for looks? Seems like a waste of time. Of course it's a waste of time, that's the point. It's another treadmill for players to jump on so they don't cancel. The entirety of the endgame is one big timesink. If they don't give you a list of chores to do they think you'll quit so they absolutely mean to waste your time. There was a time when finishing a character in an MMO was a possibility. At which point you'd go off and enjoy the endgame (usually open pvp all night every night). Games today aren't like that. They lead us around by the nose until we can't stand it anymore and finally quit paying them to waste our time for us. I really do miss games and developers who were confident in the worlds they created and were happy to let us run around doing our on thing without falling behind the gear curve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakua Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Of course it's a waste of time, that's the point. It's another treadmill for players to jump on so they don't cancel. The entirety of the endgame is one big timesink. If they don't give you a list of chores to do they think you'll quit so they absolutely mean to waste your time. There was a time when finishing a character in an MMO was a possibility. At which point you'd go off and enjoy the endgame (usually open pvp all night every night). Games today aren't like that. They lead us around by the nose until we can't stand it anymore and finally quit paying them to waste our time for us. I really do miss games and developers who were confident in the worlds they created and were happy to let us run around doing our on thing without falling behind the gear curve. Wooha! Agree 100%. Good post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raeln Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 -_- but I don't care for the ego... Then why would you possibly be interested in ranked warzones? The entire point of ranked or ratings is to categorize into a type of epeen/ego ordering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raeln Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Of course it's a waste of time, that's the point. It's another treadmill for players to jump on so they don't cancel. The entirety of the endgame is one big timesink. If they don't give you a list of chores to do they think you'll quit so they absolutely mean to waste your time. There was a time when finishing a character in an MMO was a possibility. At which point you'd go off and enjoy the endgame (usually open pvp all night every night). Games today aren't like that. They lead us around by the nose until we can't stand it anymore and finally quit paying them to waste our time for us. I really do miss games and developers who were confident in the worlds they created and were happy to let us run around doing our on thing without falling behind the gear curve. Open PvP is not end game. You can reach that point you are talking about right now in TOR and WoW. You can achieve the best gear in the game by playing more aggressively than others - at that point, you'll have the best of the best and the only thing that is left is ganking people in open world PvP. The point in ranked war hero gear is for prestige. I'm glad a developer finally has the courage to put out ranked PvP gear that doesn't alter the power level of the character. It's a good sign and is a +1 to encourage me to get interested in MMO PvP again. WoW burned that out of me with their failed PvP gear system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maladon Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Open PvP is not end game. It should be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reznix Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 The biggest thing I find that kills PvP is when gear overpowers any skill any player has. Seems swtor thankfully has realized this. If you got a few players who's gear are so radically different that new players with no gear haven't got a chance, you have a recipe for disaster. You have new people who don't want to play PvP, and you'll have the people who grind to get the most elite gear getting bored, as soon there will be very little challenge if they can faceroll and kill just about everything. PvP should be about skill, gear should be secondary minor thing. Keeping both stats the same in rated and non rated was the right decision. As it will keep rated players more balanced when they play non-rated. Also gear is just numbers, these numbers are a form of ego boost as well. Swtor recognizes this and gives people ego boosts in more balanced ways. Just, you know, my opinion man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aedilous Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 I'm glad a developer finally has the courage to put out ranked PvP gear that doesn't alter the power level of the character. It's a good sign and is a +1 to encourage me to get interested in MMO PvP again. WoW burned that out of me with their failed PvP gear system. I would have rather seen them put design effort into the ranked gear so that it is directly noticeable. If the ranked warzones are just for epeen and the new gear isn't going to effect stat changes at all then they should have designed it to look entirely different instead of the exact same gear but with slightly different colors. As it is I couldn't tell you what color Battlemaster gear is because I don't care about the color of my gear. Just my own opinion on the gear "redesign" that is supposed to keep people interested. For me, it doesn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stradoo Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 (edited) Anyone else feels the same? I assume that males outweigh the females on this site, so we won't be posting our "feelings" on this... Oh, wait..... page 3 already... Edited March 19, 2012 by Stradoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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