Maiajayde Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 (edited) Marking healers with raid icons just ends any fun trying to play heal's unless you have a extreme amount of pvp gear. There is no L2play when you have 6 ranged stuns when you spawn and jump out of the walls, etc. etc etc. If you don't have a pre-made group to use cool down to protect heal you die as soon as they see the mark. In any other mmo with 1/2 way good pvp does not allow enemy marks. In fact, in one or more mmo's they will ban you if you use third party add on's to mark healers. The L2play should not be mark the healer it should be recognize the healer for ones self and then kill him. BW says they care about PVPbut they let something like this slip through. This sould be fixed, Hell PVP need a big work over and everyone knows it. Edited March 3, 2012 by Maiajayde Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fidopro Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 man up homie us healers know we will be focused and to be honest I enjoy it. The more people who come after me the better...maybe ill jump down into the pit and take 5 guys with me like I always do LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molatova Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 I agree even WoW got rid of Mark the Healer Mod. I mean if you want to be a E=sport you can not have that in PvP. It is Lame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reveillere Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 Are you saying we should simply let you heal without damaging you? .. Well I guess this would be fine if you guys let me kept dpsing without damaging me.. You know what, lets just get rid of pvp! ........ Logic. It's a team game, get someone to guard you and if they are ranged use LoS to your advantage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiajayde Posted March 3, 2012 Author Share Posted March 3, 2012 FOR SURE i bet you do when you are on your DPS . let them focus you but let them do it from there own skill and not a mark lol ranged stun i win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lokivoid Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 Marking healers with raid icons just ends any fun trying to play heal's unless you have a extreme amount of pvp gear. There is no L2play when you have 6 ranged stuns when you spawn and jump out of the walls, etc. etc etc. If you don't have a pre-made group to use cool down to protect heal you die as soon as they see the mark. In any other mmo with 1/2 way good pvp does not allow enemy marks. In fact, in one or more mmo's they will ban you if you use third party add on's to mark healers. the L2play should not be mark the healer it should be recognize the healer for ones self and then kill him. BW says they care about PVp but they let something like this slip through. This sould be fixed, Hell PVP need a big work over and everyone knows it. No, Marking targets is just fine. If you do not like getting focus fired then reroll. (healers get focused becuse if played right it gets a bit broken fast, considering the piss poor interrupt mechanics and lack of counters) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiajayde Posted March 3, 2012 Author Share Posted March 3, 2012 FOR SURE i bet you do when you are on your DPS . let them focus you but let them do it from there own skill and not a mark lol ranged stun i win Not saying that what i am saying is L2play for your self and not o look a mark i can stun him after he did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molatova Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 (edited) No, Marking targets is just fine. If you do not like getting focus fired then reroll. (healers get focused becuse if played right it gets a bit broken fast, considering the piss poor interrupt mechanics and lack of counters) Wow your not to smart even the so called God of MMO WoW seen how dumb and how it hurts pvp more than helps it thats why they banned the mark the healer mod. Edited March 3, 2012 by Molatova Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiajayde Posted March 3, 2012 Author Share Posted March 3, 2012 Could you Imagine marks on Rated BG's the outcry would be Enormous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wessik Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 i was a healer in swg for 5 years so i know how it feels... but what's the difference about getting marked vs people telling the whole group in ops chat to focus you? i don't see the issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xNonphixionx Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 9 times out of 10 a team that actually attacks marked targets would be focusing those same targets anyways. I know when im in a premade on vent we dont even pay attention to the marks, we just call out names. Marks just give you a better vision of where the healers ARE not which ones are the healers. It's funny because a lot of PUG groups dont even pay attention to the marks. They should, but they dont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidank Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 Gotta agree on this one, a lot of winning a pug comes down to whether or not your leader is good enough to mark the healers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiajayde Posted March 3, 2012 Author Share Posted March 3, 2012 i was a healer in swg for 5 years so i know how it feels... but what's the difference about getting marked vs people telling the whole group in ops chat to focus you? i don't see the issue They don't say he just spawn and they have to find the healer with out a HUGH mark to show them out of the group Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepilk Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 i was a healer in swg for 5 years so i know how it feels... but what's the difference about getting marked vs people telling the whole group in ops chat to focus you? i don't see the issue SWG even went a step further and allowed you to /assist so that everyone in the group automatically attacked the chosen target... life was really hard there for priority targets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucisAbyssus Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 I thought that if you were a healer it automatically meant having a target on your back? Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xNonphixionx Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 Honestly, this has to be the most silly complaint I ever read. I'm a healer...I deal with getting focused. I play with good teammates that dont just watch me get focused. Pro tip: Use line of sights and ranged classes will NEVER kill you. I dont care what gear you have. If you use line of sight to your advantage it will take 4 people to kill you, and they wont be doing it quickly. Seems like you just need to brush up on your kiting skills. There's plenty of healers in this game that just stand there and try to heal through focus fire. To those I say...Learn to play. The best healers kite using line of sight if they are getting focused. So really, the problem is not the marking targets, it's the healer not knowing what to do when he/she is getting focused. No...you dont stand there and try to heal through it lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xNonphixionx Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 SWG even went a step further and allowed you to /assist so that everyone in the group automatically attacked the chosen target... life was really hard there for priority targets. There's assist target in this game too...good players use it. Bad players dont even know it exists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wessik Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 They don't say he just spawn and they have to find the healer with out a HUGH mark to show them out of the group let's say i'm not the ops leader so i can't mark you... i'm a sniper... if i see you healing, i'm going after you... and i'm spamming in my ops chat to attack you every time... if you don't like being focused, roll something else... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nangasaur Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 Marking healers with raid icons just ends any fun trying to play heal's unless you have a extreme amount of pvp gear. There is no L2play when you have 6 ranged stuns when you spawn and jump out of the walls, etc. etc etc. If you don't have a pre-made group to use cool down to protect heal you die as soon as they see the mark. In any other mmo with 1/2 way good pvp does not allow enemy marks. In fact, in one or more mmo's they will ban you if you use third party add on's to mark healers. The L2play should not be mark the healer it should be recognize the healer for ones self and then kill him. BW says they care about PVPbut they let something like this slip through. This sould be fixed, Hell PVP need a big work over and everyone knows it.Please continue to mark healers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiajayde Posted March 3, 2012 Author Share Posted March 3, 2012 (edited) Honestly, this has to be the most silly complaint I ever read. I'm a healer...I deal with getting focused. I play with good teammates that dont just watch me get focused. Pro tip: Use line of sights and ranged classes will NEVER kill you. I dont care what gear you have. If you use line of sight to your advantage it will take 4 people to kill you, and they wont be doing it quickly. Seems like you just need to brush up on your kiting skills. There's plenty of healers in this game that just stand there and try to heal through focus fire. To those I say...Learn to play. The best healers kite using line of sight if they are getting focused. So really, the problem is not the marking targets, it's the healer not knowing what to do when he/she is getting focused. No...you dont stand there and try to heal through it lol. YOU don"t get the point. YES healer get focus. in a game when you have to get up on the healer to stun them they can run pole dance etc etc but when you have a mark on you as soon as you spawn ITS RANGED STUNS you can't move away you cant LOS it you are dead. so i doubt you play much heal Edited March 3, 2012 by Maiajayde Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miravlix Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 So basically what your saying only Vent guilds is allowed to have tactics? The vent groups can call names, the only way for a pug to coordinate is to use those marks. If anything they should give us auto marking, to help PuG's compete with vent. Vent is an insanely unfair advantage and anything that lessen the advantage is a huge plus in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiajayde Posted March 3, 2012 Author Share Posted March 3, 2012 (edited) So basically what your saying only Vent guilds is allowed to have tactics? The vent groups can call names, the only way for a pug to coordinate is to use those marks. If anything they should give us auto marking, to help PuG's compete with vent. Vent is an insanely unfair advantage and anything that lessen the advantage is a huge plus in my book. I am sure that's why they don't let you Q In a Ops. Because of vent. Edited March 3, 2012 by Maiajayde Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CogitoErgo Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 Not that I care all that much, but I agree with the OP. Silly that something like this is allowed. And the "if you don't like it reroll" attitude is derp. I guess all WZs should just be 8 dps going pew pew for 15 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molatova Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 The real thing is when you kill a healer in a WF when he respawns with 3 other people who all look alike it takes time to target and find where the healer went. At least it gives the healer a little time to do something other than having a gaint icon saying where he is at all times. Sure people may call your name in Ops and say your a healer but at least they have to FIND YOU to attack you not oh look healer is spawning and look he went right when he jumped ill get him. Gaint target on him lol that is dumb and bad game play. It makes it fair for every player if there is not a icon on another player in PvP. And thats all he wants it is not a L2P Line of sight thing at least with out the Icon you dont know if he is LOS people but look gaint icon there he is nyck nyuck nyuck. It should be done away with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miravlix Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 I am sure that's why they don't let you Q In a Ops. Because of vent. four people in vent + four randoms or another four ppl vent team vs 8 people without vent and the 8 people is at a serious disadvantage. Your suggestion is just making the disadvantage even worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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