MuNieK Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 (edited) Hello. This is the Example of horrid animation and its alternative edit: And here is the analogy. Can you tell me how that passed torugh director of the team responsible for character animations? On the left is in-game actuall animation, and on the right is quickly photoshoped example of how small effort was needed to make it look acceptable... Those shoulders have to lowered... its just mockery of sith warriors... While fixing it i would laso rotate head so he would be facing higher... kind of feeling delight of the channeled hatred, inseatd of current pose like he is about to ragequit the game and scream like a girl. Feel free to post your candidates for "The worst character animation in swtor" in the replies. Edited February 16, 2012 by MuNieK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZDProletariat Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 The left one looks much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vezpasion Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Working as intended. The sith warrior always leaves his coat hanger inside the robes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lundli Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 (edited) The left one looks much better. Agreed, the right one looks.. odd, like his heart isn't in it or something.. Edited February 16, 2012 by Lundli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bionixx Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Are you saying that it's better with the arms not going backwards and shoulders not popping forward? Because that's an OPINION. You're entitled to it but don't shove it in people's face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flibbertygibbit Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Should be used to it with this game though...... Is there anything that hasent passed them over? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthocyanin Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 (edited) I prefer the left one. He actually looks... I dunno, ANGRY? I find that he looks rather defeated in the right, with his slumped shoulders. EDIT: Actually, the right one looks rather close to a meditating type of position I've seen in Tai Chi Edited February 16, 2012 by Anthocyanin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gokkus Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Agreed, the right one looks.. odd, like his heart isn't in it or something.. Yeah, less hateful somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuNieK Posted February 16, 2012 Author Share Posted February 16, 2012 The only person that would "channel hatred" moving shoulders and arms unnaturally front and up to some silly position, would be some sick person with underdeveloped body controll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkhosis Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 An animation is moving- not a still picture. You judge an animation on its fluidity- not one strangulated screenshot. Maybe you meant modeling? Or just grasping at straws again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuNieK Posted February 16, 2012 Author Share Posted February 16, 2012 An animation is moving- not a still picture. You judge an animation on its fluidity- not one strangulated screenshot. Maybe you meant modeling? Or just grasping at straws again? Hehe actually this is it... the whole animation of channel hatred is this still pose and some particle effects around the hands. There is no fluidity to be find in that animation mate Sorry i dont get the idiom about straws, im not from your culture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mavsynchroid Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 (edited) The left one looks much better. Yup. The right one doesn't look sith at all. Infact if anything it looks more jedi. Jedi's don't feed off emotion. Sith do. Makes perfect sense and looks good. It's said that Sith are not good at force healing, that it's more of a Jedi technique. So I guess using the emotion of Rage and also pain to heal themselves works perfectly. If you really can't stand it, re-roll a sith inq. They have the Darth Maul pacing back and forth animation. Looks great when there are more enemies near by to kill. Though it looks kinda silly when there are NO enemies around, and he's pacing back and forth looking at a wall like he's gonna murder it. Edited February 16, 2012 by mavsynchroid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuNieK Posted February 16, 2012 Author Share Posted February 16, 2012 Yup. The right one doesn't look sith at all. Infact if anything it looks more jedi. Jedi's don't feed off emotion. Sith do. Makes perfect sense and looks good. How come raised shoulders - pose person do when its cold around have anythign to do with feeding off emotion? The only emotion shoulders raised this way shows is desperation of not loosing to much heat. The other translation of that body language would be covering head in fear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inarai Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 How come raised shoulders - pose person do when its cold around have anythign to do with feeding off emotion? The only emotion shoulders raised this way shows is desperation of not loosing to much heat. The other translation of that body language would be covering head in fear. Because the shoulders raised animation has the Warrior being all riled up, whereas you're suggesting he look relaxed. It's completely inappropriate to the action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthocyanin Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 (edited) How come raised shoulders - pose person do when its cold around have anythign to do with feeding off emotion? The only emotion shoulders raised this way shows is desperation of not loosing to much heat. The other translation of that body language would be covering head in fear. I actually see raised shoulders as a sign of tenseness- the relaxed shoulders show tranquility. You tense muscles when you're angry/stressed, and relax muscles when calm, typically. Also, the raised shoulders can be a sign of aggression, making you look bigger. Edited February 16, 2012 by Anthocyanin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mavsynchroid Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Because the shoulders raised animation has the Warrior being all riled up, whereas you're suggesting he look relaxed. It's completely inappropriate to the action. ^This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mavsynchroid Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 I actually see raised shoulders as a sign of tenseness- the relaxed shoulders show tranquility. sign of aggression, making you look bigger. You tense muscles when you're angry/stressed, and relax muscles when calm, typically. Also, the raised shoulders can be a sign of aggression, making you look bigger. Your first sentence is a bit unclear. Which is a sign of aggression? The relaxed or the raised? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerrard_Ennui Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 I see the change that the OP made - but arent the SW's shoulders supposed to be hunched up when s/he Channels Rage? It kinda looks like what its supposed to indicate, imo. You could make a case for lightsaber animations being different across factions - I was sad my Jug would never use a 2-handed saber style - but the particular animation you picked out looks ok IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inarai Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Your first sentence is a bit unclear. Which is a sign of aggression? The relaxed or the raised? I assume he means the raised shoulders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthocyanin Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Your first sentence is a bit unclear. Which is a sign of aggression? The relaxed or the raised? Bad editing there, let me try again. The raised shoulders- Tenseness, or aggression Lowered shoulders- Tranquility, calm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gokkus Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Lowered shoulders also gives a sense of control and harmony, while Sith lack control over emotions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lundli Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Lowered shoulders- Tranquility, calm Looks more like slumped shoulders to me, signalling defeat or resignation.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuNieK Posted February 16, 2012 Author Share Posted February 16, 2012 (edited) I actually see raised shoulders as a sign of tenseness- the relaxed shoulders show tranquility. You tense muscles when you're angry/stressed, and relax muscles when calm, typically. Also, the raised shoulders can be a sign of aggression, making you look bigger. But you dont raise one leg in the air when you are angry, even tho its muscles' tension... Noone raises shoulder while angry... Show me one naturally looking photo from google where angry person covers his head between his raised shoulders if you really want to defend your point with some meaningfull arguments. Edited February 16, 2012 by MuNieK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space_Gimp Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 There is nothing wrong with the animation. Sith Warriors are masters of constipation. Everyone knows this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuNieK Posted February 16, 2012 Author Share Posted February 16, 2012 The raised shoulders- Tenseness, or aggression Lowered shoulders- Tranquility, calm haha, where did you got that revelation from? Never seen a person looking like a ticking bomb? DO you think he covers his head between his raised shoulders? I find it hard to recall any angry person doing that... can you? Plz do google that example and post link to such picture. Cause its very curious what you are saying about relations of tranquility and agression to shoulder sposition.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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