toastmuffin Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 I posted a thread on PvP forum about how powertechs are the only non healing Advanced Class without an Execute and i got more trolls replying than answers. From thread @ http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=295486 Sith Warriors get Vicious Throw as baseline. Vicious Throw Instant Cooldown: 6s Range: 10 m Throws the main-hand lightsaber at a target, dealing 2383 - 2773 energy damage. Only usable on targets at or below 20% max health. Snipers get Takedown. Instant Energy: 15 Cooldown: 12s Range: 30 m Attempts to take the target down with a single powerful shot that deals 3625 - 3889 weapon damage. Only usable on targets at or below 30% max health. Sith Asassin get Assassinate. Instant Force: 25 Cooldown: 6s Range: 4 m Attempts to assassinate the target, dealing 2744 - 3047 weapon damage. Only usable on targets at or below 30% max health. My opinion is that we need an execute since our only burst comes from a shared tree with a 15secs CD. Sure, TD+RS hits hard if both crits but we can only do it every 15secs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkdlauri Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 I would like one as a tank I dont ever get my 2.5k damage medal this would be a way for me to get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toastmuffin Posted February 13, 2012 Author Share Posted February 13, 2012 I would like one as a tank I dont ever get my 2.5k damage medal this would be a way for me to get it. Thats what i was talking about. We are the only tanks without execute. I hope if it does get implemented, it would clear all our heat like a dissipation move. It would help when it comes to moving on to the next target without being limited by heat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DervimNorth Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 AS a tank, you're not supposed to do damage. You want damage-you go pyro or pyro-hybrid and get to refresh your Rail Shot(which should have 90% arp) with other attacks. So in short-Rail Shot, along with Thermal Detonator are your finishers, as they do more damage than other finishers, simply due to the fact that they ignore the armor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helig Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 (edited) I'm doing just fine (a little too fine, in fact) on my hybrid PT even without an Execute. I don't think we even need it with the tools that we currently have. Edited February 13, 2012 by Helig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthHarvey Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Honestly, Powertechs have enough going for them, we don't need to power them up any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertine Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 powertech might need some love in the damage reduction department when running shieldspec but what we certainly dont need is improved DPS ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mugen_dom Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Rail shot with explosive fuel active hits for almost 2300 with iron fist spec and champion gear...mix of eliminator and Supercommando Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonaho Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Burnout is our execute, we don't need a burst ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevvy Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 I love how all the executes in the game are 30% or below, except for the Juggernaut, which is 20% or below and doesn't hit as hard as the rest of the executes. Jugg hate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabbathius Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Other tank classes get an execute. So why not PTs? Sins get Assassinate, Juggs get Vicious Throw. Yeah, I know, Pyro gets a talent. But other specs would really use an execute too. I was just playing my PT for a bit last night and was thinking this exact same thing. On my Sin, enemy drops below 30% and I will take a huge chunk out of his health, even if I don't kill them. With my Mara (gets the same execute as Jugg), they drop to 20% and I'll likely finish them off there and then. But on a PT I have to keep crunching them down until they crumble, all the way. Execute would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertine Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Other tank classes get an execute. So why not PTs? look at some pyrotech videos and youll know why we dont get it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkdlauri Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 I also think it will go great with the bounty hunter theme we are killers so we should have an excecute, But I would rather get a god mode cool down like juggs get rather then this. They really need to make a new skill at the top of the sheild tech tree because heat blast is a joke and a half. they need to put something sexy up there like an excecute or a damage reducer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
System_Crush Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 (edited) Don't we technically have an execute ability? Burnout in Pyrotech tree 30% more damage with Incendiary missile & Combustible Gas Cylinder DoT on targets below 30% max health. Those 2 DoT effects combined do slightly less damage, than Assassinate, but they are elemental damage so that make it the same after armor. However you have to spec heavily into the pyrotech tree to get burnout... Not to mention be limited to the combustible cylinder. Edited February 13, 2012 by System_Crush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TirjacShiki Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 If powertechs had an execute, it would have to be an ability that is more powerful than our other abilites... That means whatever it is, will be doing around 6k damage. We already have enough reasons to nerf us, we don't need any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apnixx Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 I break 4k with my rail normally in pvp, if we got a execute we would end up nerfed, leave well enough alone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevvy Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Can I get an execute to make up for 2-piece Combat Tech breaking Carbonize? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabbathius Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 look at some pyrotech videos and youll know why we dont get it... But we're not all Pyrotech. Other classes get execute regardless of their spec. Or are you gonna tell me that a Jugg AOE critting for nearly 6k with Smash alone needs an execute? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertine Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 But we're not all Pyrotech. Other classes get execute regardless of their spec. Or are you gonna tell me that a Jugg AOE critting for nearly 6k with Smash alone needs an execute? doesnt matter really, AP doesnt crit as high but as far as sustained DPS go its on par with Pyro, so doesnt need it either. And as for ST...well, its a tanking tree...if your PvEing your job is to hold aggro so dont need execute, if your PvPing your gonna go hybrid anyway and were back to pyro or AP. just because another class has ability XY that would find a PT doesnt mean we need it. imo powertech is perfectly fine the way it is... and a jugg doesnt crit for 6k on his AoE just like that, they have to build up to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assaultrooper Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 AS a tank, you're not supposed to do damage. You want damage-you go pyro or pyro-hybrid and get to refresh your Rail Shot(which should have 90% arp) with other attacks. So in short-Rail Shot, along with Thermal Detonator are your finishers, as they do more damage than other finishers, simply due to the fact that they ignore the armor. As for as I know neither TD (Kinetic DMG) nor Rail Shot (White DMG) ignore armor completely. (Im not sure if the railshot talented does ignore armor completely tho.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pojectshadow Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 BHs in general do not have that type of ability because we crit so much as it. As a STPT i cirt with iron first for 2k in pvp and 3k in pve and the cd is very low. Like other posters said if we did have one; we would be way over powered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacity Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 So in short-Rail Shot, along with Thermal Detonator are your finishers, as they do more damage than other finishers, simply due to the fact that they ignore the armor. Rail shot may ignore 90% of armor with talents, but thermal detonator is kinetic damage, and does not ignore armor at all. I hate it when people post inaccurate info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordeguy Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 I'd feel a little OP with an execute. Especially as a pyro. Incendiary-TD-Rail-Rocket-Rail(FB)-execute. Dead anything with some crits in only a few seconds. Pyros can already wreck people but it takes some luck to do it real quick, adding a big consistent burst to finish people off just seems unfair. Instead of getting lucky with another rail proc to take someone down fast you could do it almost every time. Maybe give something to deep shield only like some bonus damage (would have to be deep enough to not stack with the pyro bonus). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlosBC Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 As ST powertech and sorc, i didnt even know this game had executes till our marauder started calling for them in ops. Havent really missed it, though i dont really pvp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhinzual Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 I love how all the executes in the game are 30% or below, except for the Juggernaut, which is 20% or below and doesn't hit as hard as the rest of the executes. Jugg hate! Don't remind me, please, it's bad for my headaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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