bearchubbs Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 The classes are getting yet another nerf. We're already the worst healers, with the worst thought out abilities (lol Diagnostic Scan), we're the worst dps with no gap closer, and now you're cutting surge down, thus affecting US the most of all the classes. Thanks guys, really, doing a bang up job killing the game all by yourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tekkamansoul Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 You sound upset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonobiwan Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 The classes are getting yet another nerf. We're already the worst healers, with the worst thought out abilities (lol Diagnostic Scan), we're the worst dps with no gap closer, and now you're cutting surge down, thus affecting US the most of all the classes. Thanks guys, really, doing a bang up job killing the game all by yourselves. Surge was never meant to be that powerful. They aren't nerfing or killing anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommyjc Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 I am getting a little worried about bioware's consistent bad decisions as of late, but give it some time, they just need time to fire mythic and get the game on track ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thekze Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 1.7 million minus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seravie Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 (edited) News flash, it's just know OPs, and scoundrels, but everyone,, but I wanna know how does it feel criticaling people for 6k+ on your class? Edited February 10, 2012 by Seravie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearchubbs Posted February 10, 2012 Author Share Posted February 10, 2012 You sound upset. Very. You should see the veritable ****storm going on in the Scoundrel/Operative forums--It's Armageddon. Apparently for Operatives one of their most important talents isn't working live and isn't being addressed in the next patch, thus REALLY hurting their healing. Not sure if Scoundrel has the same crapped out talent, but it's fairly obvious that Scoundrel healing needs an overhaul. But knowing bioware they won't put much effort in and just nerf Sages, thus causing an even bigger mess. I mean what else are us Scoundrels/Operatives to do? We're completely useless. Bad healing, bad damage. There's no reason to take us over any other class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GetPloughed Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 I take it this is your first MMO? There are always classes that are horrible to other classes, and some that are insanely overpowered. You just made the wrong decision in rolling your class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonobiwan Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 I am getting a little worried about bioware's consistent bad decisions as of late, but give it some time, they just need time to fire mythic and get the game on track ^^ What bad decisions exactly? I have yet to see one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethality Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Very. You should see the veritable ****storm going on in the Scoundrel/Operative forums--It's Armageddon. Apparently for Operatives one of their most important talents isn't working live and isn't being addressed in the next patch, thus REALLY hurting their healing. Not sure if Scoundrel has the same crapped out talent, but it's fairly obvious that Scoundrel healing needs an overhaul. But knowing bioware they won't put much effort in and just nerf Sages, thus causing an even bigger mess. I mean what else are us Scoundrels/Operatives to do? We're completely useless. Bad healing, bad damage. There's no reason to take us over any other class. I'll say it again - once you start seeing class complaints, BioWare is on the right track because players are only focusing on playing the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volksworgen Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 1.7 million minus 1 then plus 10 million Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearchubbs Posted February 10, 2012 Author Share Posted February 10, 2012 I'll say it again - Lalala everything is fine lalala . Yeah, game is in tip top shape when Operations are "Marauder, Jug, Merc, Sorc, only please" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nempo Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 The worst healers? You must be doing it wrong then. Shadow Tank + Scoundrel Healer is a 1-2 punch in pvp. Been able to slaughter 4 people pre-mades in WZs at once with the sheer amount of chain skills that can be used. Scoundrel healers make tank healing in raids easy-mode as well thanks to all the HoTs. They are virtually the best PvP healers as they don't have to stand still. Guard a Scoundrel and your golden, Sage/Sorc and Com/Merc healers are easy to just endlessly interupt and cut down. Thinking you just don't know how to play your class to it's fullest mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PjPablo Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Nerf Happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleeha Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 The worst healers? You must be doing it wrong then. Shadow Tank + Scoundrel Healer is a 1-2 punch in pvp. Been able to slaughter 4 people pre-mades in WZs at once with the sheer amount of chain skills that can be used. Scoundrel healers make tank healing in raids easy-mode as well thanks to all the HoTs. They are virtually the best PvP healers as they don't have to stand still. Guard a Scoundrel and your golden, Sage/Sorc and Com/Merc healers are easy to just endlessly interupt and cut down. Thinking you just don't know how to play your class to it's fullest mate. How does that translate into PvE, MATE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtybomb Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Most of the people that play this game probably don't even know what surge is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jalliah Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Well I won't quit my OP if it end up stinking for a while. I'll just play one of my other characters if it's wanted more. Been around the MMO games long enough to know that class changes...well change. It's this one this month another one the next and eventually it all comes around again and suddenly the 'bad' becomes good again and another set of class players freaks out at changes to that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethality Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Yeah, game is in tip top shape when Operations are "Marauder, Jug, Merc, Sorc, only please" Believe it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malefactor Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Maybe instead of jumping the gun and going ballistic about planned changes, hop on the test server and test it out, then give feedback as clear as you can with numbers/data minus the hyperbole. If you want to affect change, that's likely the best way to go about it, as just throwing fits on the forums isn't likely to achieve much, and will get you trolled/turn into a flame fest. My main is a level 50 Scoundrel healer as well, will be testing and providing feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearchubbs Posted February 10, 2012 Author Share Posted February 10, 2012 I take it this is your first MMO? There are always classes that are horrible to other classes, and some that are insanely overpowered. You just made the wrong decision in rolling your class. Apparently. I want to know straight from Bioware how Scoundrel healing was supposed to work. As of right now we can't go below 60% energy or we hit the point of dead for energy return. We can't deal with spike damage because of this. We also have the worst thought out ability ever, Diagnostic Scan, a channeled, free heal that is negligible healing at best and is only use for letting our energy regen, but wait, we have to stand there like an idiot channeling, with a big green beam saying "OH HEY COME HERE AND INTERRUPT ME PLEASE". It's a useless ability and supposedly it's one of our most important according to bioware. And you can't say the surge nerf isn't going to affect us the most, our damage already got nerfed before, now it's going to be neutered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andryah Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 The classes are getting yet another nerf. We're already the worst healers, with the worst thought out abilities (lol Diagnostic Scan), we're the worst dps with no gap closer, and now you're cutting surge down, thus affecting US the most of all the classes. Thanks guys, really, doing a bang up job killing the game all by yourselves. Hollow threats are always an interesting ploy on game forums. I have yet to see a bad class adjustment by Bioware. Why are you so butthurt about this one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elboc Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 This affects all classes with burste damage not just Ops / Scoundrals and I have a level 45 scoundral. Get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strayjack Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Maybe instead of jumping the gun and going ballistic about planned changes, hop on the test server and test it out, then give feedback as clear as you can with numbers/data minus the hyperbole. If you want to affect change, that's likely the best way to go about it, as just throwing fits on the forums isn't likely to achieve much, and will get you trolled/turn into a flame fest. My main is a level 50 Scoundrel healer as well, will be testing and providing feedback. They have Pre-Made Ops now on test server? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andryah Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Been around the MMO games long enough to know that class changes...well change. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearchubbs Posted February 10, 2012 Author Share Posted February 10, 2012 Hollow threats are always an interesting ploy on game forums. I have yet to see a bad class adjustment by Bioware. Why are you so butthurt about this one? Quit being ignorant and go to the scoundrel forums. There's plenty there to point you in the direction of bioware's blunder of the class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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