Dexsite Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 This change is a step in the right direction I think but still not great. The flashing I could have dealt with in time, the brighter colors as well, but all quickslots going dark while the GCD finishes is unacceptable. There is no such thing as a "Rotation" anymore for many classes. You don't use abilities in a set sequence, instead most rotations are based on a set of priorities. Basically, when certain abilities become available you use them over using other abilities, and the best time to determine the next ability is during the GCD. However, with this new UI fix it is impossible to know if an ability becomes available during the GCD. I play a powertech, so my reference in this case is going to be "Railshot" which can only be used when a target is incapacitated. There are many things that can trigger this effect allowing you to use this ability, and the easiest way to tell if its available is if the quickslot is lit up. With this fix, I don't know if its available until my GCD is finished and by then I already have my next ability queued up so it goes off, I'm back on GCD and I still don't know if its available because if it is it just went dark. I realize this change has been good for others. I believe I saw a post about someone having a much easier time with this fix because they were colorblind. That is great, but this fix also makes the game much harder to play for others. There has to be some middle ground. For me, I think I'd have a much easier time with it if the buttons remained lit that were supposed to be and you just kept the new effects on top of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manifoldgodhead Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Oh no!.. My eyes hurt. QQ cuz I can't turn my Monitor brightness down ... Seriously you think someone should have to darken their ENTIRE screen because a new feature is horrible? Also the big issue is not brightness, its the fact that you cant see what abilities are available until the GCD completes. This means classes like Mara/Sent that have complex, situational ability rotations are now much tougher to play. This UI is basically a step backwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarfux Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 you don't make something more confusing.... they should be sad this is actually the first time, I, Sarfux, a person they PERSONALLY took ideas from for the game...doesn't like...you need to put it back to the way it was or fix something so EVERYTHING doesn't look greyed out all the time. It saddens me BioWare PLEASE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternalFinality Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Christmas came a second time this year! Flashing lights for everyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansultares Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 I can't imagine what flop GCD UI animation they'll put out next. An explanation of why it's so difficult to implement would be great. Are you giving each intern a chance at designing it? Throwing a dart at a board? Letting a monkey/dog/cat/[insert random animal] design it? Why was the first one abandoned? Where was the massive amount of public outcry that caused you to ditch a working system? Because the animation back then was better; the only problem was ability delay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakuth Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 It's funny, because right now in this forum, directly beneath this thread, is a thread complaining how with the last patch you couldn't tell when an ability was off GCD because it was always lit up. I thought to myself "geez, I hope this UI change doesn't revert that, because that's a DUMB complaint and when they originally changed it made life some much better." Now I see they HAVE reverted it, and I'm back to square one - not able to see when situational abilities are ready. Good God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertine Posted February 8, 2012 Author Share Posted February 8, 2012 It's funny, because right now in this forum, directly beneath this thread, is a thread complaining how with the last patch you couldn't tell when an ability was off GCD because it was always lit up. I thought to myself "geez, I hope this UI change doesn't revert that, because that's a DUMB complaint and when they originally changed it made life some much better." Now I see they HAVE reverted it, and I'm back to square one - not able to see when situational abilities are ready. Good God. imo, with the flash effect being there, it doesnt make any sense to grey out skills that arent on CD during GCD. Its the flash that indicates when GCD is finished, not the greyed out skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zandadoum Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 (edited) dear bioware, stop TRYING to make a working UI and let the real PROs handle it. enable the use of addons NOW and maybe the maker of omnicc comes and shows you how to make proper cooldown/gcd visualisation. Edited February 8, 2012 by zandadoum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Nox Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 I don't know - the text actually changes on available powers but they just need to add UI modding so I can fix this shizzle. It's not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeckTator Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Looks fine to me, I don't see the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thekze Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 (edited) They need to USE THE OLD ONE + GREY-COLORED TRANSPARENT animation when global cooldown is coming back. All that blink is useless... and the black color is not a good idea, some people in my guild have a hard time seeing what's where in the middle of fight, their abilities are ALWAYS greyish/dark. Edited February 8, 2012 by Thekze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grabsi Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 I agree with OP completely! THIS NEEDS TO BE CHANGED ASAP BIOWARE! One of the few things that didn't need change and they change it... i would say fire the guy who got that idea in the first place BW Only people who are not complaining about it are clickers and keyboard turners who can't even play mmos properly!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarfux Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Weren't people complaining about not being able to see if or not abilities with long CDs on them were ready or not? I think this solved that particular problem didn't it? newsflash! people will NEVER be happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davilorius Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 I think its a lot easier to see when the cool down ends with the flash and I think that's nice. It definitely reduced the number of times I tried to use an ability before it was ready. However I agree it did add a new challenge in seeing when a triggered ability becomes available because the cool down obfuscates it e.g. Can't tell if rail shot is available while cd is going and rail shot is a very important part of a BH rotation. Fix that and we are optimal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iskandarian Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 i developed a heinous eyelid twitch playing swtor. true story. still fighting it. anti-glare screens, quinine, eye drops, the whole nines... it won't go away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OddballEasyEight Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 I dont think its bad. The graying out of the abilities doesnt bother me at all, i went online yesterday to check it out and i had no problems with it. and as for all the "if youre not bothered, its because youre a clicker" comments, thats just stupid. If you click you have to look at the icons, if you use hotkeys you shouldnt have to look since you know what hotkey does what. I do a bit of both, i have most of the quickslots hotkeyed, and a few are not hotkeyed (things i dont have to do in a split second, so i can actually click it without loosing anything by clicking) and ive had no problems either way. i think this is mostly a case of "its new and different so i dont like it"... And as a sidenote to BW, no matter what you do with the UI, there will always be an outcry from players who doesnt like it so pick whatever works and stick with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terans Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 I liked the original cool down effect when the game was released over this new one. Perhaps we could have the option to pick which one we want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pathlight- Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 I like both, the new one is clearer but I didn't have any problem with the old one. Probably depends on the class you play though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talarchy Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 (edited) The flashing is bad, but the fact that I cant use any abilities until that craptastic animation is finished really frustrating me. Edited February 8, 2012 by Talarchy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gartzen Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Before, you could see what abilities were ready to use while you were using one. Now you see nothing. You have to guess. UI is getting worse patch after patch. The beta/release one is the best so far. Hope they fix it soon, playing like this is nightmare mode! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertine Posted February 8, 2012 Author Share Posted February 8, 2012 If you click you have to look at the icons, if you use hotkeys you shouldnt have to look since you know what hotkey does what. wrong. some abilities(like railshot) have certain prerequisites so you have to look at the button to know if you can use it or you have to apply a dot first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnugthreeonefive Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 I'm having problems as a Powertech seeing what'll be available for my next GCD. Original version wasn't perfect, but it was by far the best of the three so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naroga Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Good, they re-opened this thread. Everybody, go vote in the stickied poll at the top of these forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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