PhantomKash Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 (edited) How bad is it? Do you get less dps abilities or do fights take 2x as long? Plan on speccing as a healer so I can get flashpoint groups quickly but not at the expense of taking a really long time killing elite/strong enemies. Edited December 15, 2011 by PhantomKash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galadine Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 (edited) Sage DPS is one of the highest DPS classes in the game. Sage healer still puts out decent damage. Edited December 13, 2011 by Galadine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuanil Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 (edited) I found sage leveling far easier than a sahdow because Qzen is a tank/melee, an he doesn't play nice for allowing flanking attacks, amoung other reasons. Edited December 13, 2011 by Nuanil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spectrallight Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Leveling as a seer is nice. It's not like other MMo's where you take forever to kill anything. I did not start having trouble u ntil areound 25 or so in beta. And then the trouble only came from the Group quests I was soloing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VainEldritch Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Sage levels very nicely and plays very smooth - like all the classes. Sage can take out Elite mobs with zero problems (or could as of the last beta build) and I found it easier to level (up to about 40) than Juggernaut melee tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephalia Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 In Beta, I levelled as a healer and had no issues killing mobs on my own. It went rather quickly actually and since we have good cc abilities the groups were manageable. I will definitely be playing a healer once I get into the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymaniac Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Good to hear. I wanna level as a pure healer as I intend to play that way in groups. And would prefer learning the basics as I level up without my leveling being gimped too horribly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReordaN Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 In Beta, I levelled as a healer and had no issues killing mobs on my own. It went rather quickly actually and since we have good cc abilities the groups were manageable. I will definitely be playing a healer once I get into the game. I used to be an arrow like you but then i took an adventurer to the knee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oniralas Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 If you go sage - regardless of your end spec (heal,dmg or dot) *put the first 5 points into telekenetics*. Seriously. As a healer you don't get your big heal until 14 anyway and you'll be damaging instead of backline healing all the time. Don't gimp your damage output by not investing into the damage tree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quraswren Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 If you go sage - regardless of your end spec (heal,dmg or dot) *put the first 5 points into telekenetics*. Seriously. As a healer you don't get your big heal until 14 anyway and you'll be damaging instead of backline healing all the time. Don't gimp your damage output by not investing into the damage tree. Definately this^ Plus I had a blast leveling as a sage with Qyzen. However a note on him and I'm not sure what level he gets the skill but it's a leap move. It's not normally turned on and he can be a little slow to attack mobs until you get the leap skill. Once you get that, turn on it's auto-attack feature and he jumps right in and pretty fast at that in comparison to not having it. It was a complaint before threads got wiped and the leap helps tremendously to get him into fights quicker. One other thing. You have to watch out for his grenade AOE ability. It's great damage but there will be times you will want to turn off it's auto attack, which I think is ON automatically. He will break a close CC target every time with it. Other than those two things and they were easily fixable. Sage leveling with Qyzen was a lot of fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrage Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 (edited) Definately this^ Plus I had a blast leveling as a sage with Qyzen. However a note on him and I'm not sure what level he gets the skill but it's a leap move. It's not normally turned on and he can be a little slow to attack mobs until you get the leap skill. Once you get that, turn on it's auto-attack feature and he jumps right in and pretty fast at that in comparison to not having it. It was a complaint before threads got wiped and the leap helps tremendously to get him into fights quicker. One other thing. You have to watch out for his grenade AOE ability. It's great damage but there will be times you will want to turn off it's auto attack, which I think is ON automatically. He will break a close CC target every time with it. Other than those two things and they were easily fixable. Sage leveling with Qyzen was a lot of fun. That is disappointing to hear. When the whole debate was going on about are companions pets, we had been told that the companion AI was smart enough not to break CC Edited December 13, 2011 by Andrage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alikain Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 You have two dps spec under sage and both of them have higher dps. if you are talking about the healer then your title should say say seer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William_F_Guile Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 i played a sage on the beta and went up to lvl 22. I was able to solo most heroic 2+ quests with my companion and had no issues for soloing in general. They are a very good class. you can put your pet on a gold mob while you kill the adds. Heal him quickly and then help him out to kill the boss. Very simple and very easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melcene Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Have to agree with others. Leveling as a Sage was not at all like leveling as a healer in other MMOs. I solo'd on my sages most of the time that I played during beta. However, you may get a little too used to being able to take out mobs higher than yourself and may run into some problems later on when you try to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibashiraSakai Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 With Qyzen tanking and the player healing/cc-ing/DPS-ing, leveling is a breeze. We could take a pack of mobs that pure DPS pairs can't handle. With some practice, we can even tank for Heroics 2s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crosk Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 How is the Sage Healer in PvP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tufy Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 That is disappointing to hear. When the whole debate was going on about are companions pets, we had been told that the companion AI was smart enough not to break CC And it is, but the AoE's targetting another member and splashing the CC can happen. Usually, I'll put Qyzen on one side of the group, CC the other side and blast away, that usually solves the problem. If not, you need a sec to put it on/off, np. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baramov Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Companion AI is pretty good. I've grouped with worse player tanks than Qyzen... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oniralas Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 If you bind companion attack to a key, you can explicitly send him off to a mob on the side and face pull/CC the others to you. Keeps CC break out of the equasion in most cases. also helps if you pull too many, you can have him come after one and regain agro w/ taunt. In either case, you should have zero issues leveling as heal spec (you *did* put points into telekenetics too though right? ) Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quraswren Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 And it is, but the AoE's targetting another member and splashing the CC can happen. Usually, I'll put Qyzen on one side of the group, CC the other side and blast away, that usually solves the problem. If not, you need a sec to put it on/off, np. BINGO! This right here. ^ It's not that Qyzen is really targeting the CC. He wont ever break CC with a straight attack. You can force lift someone and I have never seen him break it. The AI is actually pretty good. However, his AOE attack is different if the CC is to close to his main target. It's the splash damage that does it, not really Qyzen breaking it on purpose. I put his hot bar on the left side of the screen expanded so I can quickly turn it off with a pack of mobs that are close together. It's easy enough. OH - Update back on my other post. He gets that leap attack when he firsts becomes your companion. Just make sure it's turned on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkhonda Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 So seer should be good leveling??? Will it be slow leveling??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppelin Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 So seer should be good leveling??? Will it be slow leveling??? No, that's what companions are for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FubsyGamr Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 (edited) So what kind of build are you leveling with? I was looking at something like this (Seer spec), but I'm not super pleased with it, I get worried at times. I was also thinking of leveling with this (bal spec), then re-speccing at 50. Thoughts? Edited December 14, 2011 by FubsyGamr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vecsus Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 I'd like to thank you all for the good information in this thread. I have FINALLY decided that I will roll up a healer Sage as my first character. I've never played a healer before so that aspect will be new to me. I think my decision comes down to the fact that I will be able to "solo" (with companion) whenever I can't or don't want to group. Yet at the same time I will be a class that will almost always be welcome in a group for tougher content. Prior to learning about the Sage I was planning to play a pure DPS spec. In most games there are always a surplus of straight DPS and I suspect SWTOR will be the same. See you all in game......eventually (I'm a 30 November pre-order) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
droidshack Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Good info thanks everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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