RoadtoArkham Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Yep, it's hideously wrong. Even in WoW you couldn't insta stealth with dots/bleeds on you...it's like 'extra life' Wrong. WoW had literally the same mechanic. Cloak of Shadows did exactly what evasion does, 'Remove DoTs and immune to damage'. Vanish and Cloaking Screen are also identical. Same two-button combo that every Rogue/Operative should know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrakk Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Yea, but actually only problem here is that you can use it without a racial advantage, etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrakk Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 (edited) Wrong. WoW had literally the same mechanic. Cloak of Shadows did exactly what evasion does, 'Remove DoTs and immune to damage'. Vanish and Cloaking Screen are also identical. Same two-button combo that every Rogue/Operative should know. I really REALLY doubt that ALL of the players of these classes manage that sequence in mere few mili secs and it ALWAYS works, even under heavy fire and 10 ppl hitting you...this is either a bug or just horridly flawed mechanic Edited January 23, 2012 by Wrakk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadtoArkham Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Yea, but actually only problem here is that you can use it without a racial advantage, etc... I'm not sure I understand what you mean. Vanish and Cloak of Shadows were class and spec dependent, just as Cloaking Screen and Evasion are. Race wasn't involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrakk Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Read up; it was considering bleeding effects in Wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kckkryptonite Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 You are fighting, you dot up a player, he has no health, HE vanishes using stealth tool. he escapes. 10 people are hitting the target, he is stun locked, he has stacking dots on him, he is released from stun.... HE INSTANTLY STEALTHS and escapes. I don't mind losing a kill, but when a player has a tool such as the ability to instantly stealth and it not breaking when they are dotted its just wrong..... FIX it, it has to be a bug, because no one in thier right mind would make a skill allowing them to duck out of a fight and run at any time without a counter. "i am away that dots some times do take them out, but this is freaking rare" They removed the dot(s) via ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadtoArkham Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 I really REALLY doubt that ALL of the players of these classes manage that sequence in mere few mili secs and it ALWAYS works, even under heavy fire and 10 ppl hitting you...this is either a bug or just horridly flawed mechanic I'm speaking purely as an Operative. Mostly due to the fact that my class of choice is constantly subjected to misinformation, hyperbole, and misunderstanding which I believe have led to the large nerf in the upcoming Patch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadtoArkham Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Read up; it was considering bleeding effects in Wow What do you mean? I don't understand what this has to do with what we're discussing. What is 'it'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ombraa Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 What do you mean? I don't understand what this has to do with what we're discussing. What is 'it'? I replied after him saying in wow you had cloak+vanish and the dwarf racial to remove bleeds, think he was referring to my post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toothsome Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 You are fighting, you dot up a player, he has no health, HE vanishes using stealth tool. he escapes. 10 people are hitting the target, he is stun locked, he has stacking dots on him, he is released from stun.... HE INSTANTLY STEALTHS and escapes. I don't mind losing a kill, but when a player has a tool such as the ability to instantly stealth and it not breaking when they are dotted its just wrong..... FIX it, it has to be a bug, because no one in thier right mind would make a skill allowing them to duck out of a fight and run at any time without a counter. "i am away that dots some times do take them out, but this is freaking rare" ohh sorry did i do that 2 u? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrakk Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 What do you mean? I don't understand what this has to do with what we're discussing. What is 'it'? How did you remove bleeding effects in WoW to be able to stealth yourself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xinika Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 You are fighting, you dot up a player, he has no health, HE vanishes using stealth tool. he escapes. 10 people are hitting the target, he is stun locked, he has stacking dots on him, he is released from stun.... HE INSTANTLY STEALTHS and escapes. I don't mind losing a kill, but when a player has a tool such as the ability to instantly stealth and it not breaking when they are dotted its just wrong..... FIX it, it has to be a bug, because no one in thier right mind would make a skill allowing them to duck out of a fight and run at any time without a counter. "i am away that dots some times do take them out, but this is freaking rare" Wow, no. Just no. THIS is ridiculous whining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadtoArkham Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 (edited) How did you remove bleeding effects in WoW to be able to stealth yourself? Cloak of Shadows. It removed all DoTs and made you damage resistant for a second or two. Then I Vanished. Unless there was a Warlock nearby...because pets could always see through Vanish. Edit: Woah, woah...hold up. You're right, Wrakk. I concede. If I remeber correctly now, Cloak of Shadows did not remove physical conditions. My bad Edited January 23, 2012 by RoadtoArkham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yhor Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Sounds like the stealth guy simply outplayed his 10 opponents. He should get an award for that, not a nerf. Seriously though.. PvP requires you to know as much about your opponents' abilities as you know about your own abilities. Figure that out and you're ahead of the game. Be ready to stop spamming your go-to ability and use something to counter... even if you have 10 people already on your target. I hate to say learn to play, it's bad form. I do think people who constantly complain do need to educate themselves though, especially in terms of what they could do to counter what they're complaining about in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizwall Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 FIX it, it has to be a bug, because no one in thier right mind would make a skill allowing them to duck out of a fight and run at any time without a counter. Sounds like rogues, warcraft, and cloak of skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SovereignDark Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 When I play my Sith Assassin my stealth is ALWAYS popped off by DoTs. You must be experiencing a bug. That is unless they are popping the ability Assassin, can't remember the name, has to remove effects, before the stealth is taken off. Even then how can you be angry about the only escape tool they have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maltime Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Wow, no. Just no. THIS is ridiculous whining. ^ Pretty much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aleiro Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 You are fighting, you dot up a player, he has no health, HE vanishes using stealth tool. he escapes. 10 people are hitting the target, he is stun locked, he has stacking dots on him, he is released from stun.... HE INSTANTLY STEALTHS and escapes. I don't mind losing a kill, but when a player has a tool such as the ability to instantly stealth and it not breaking when they are dotted its just wrong..... FIX it, it has to be a bug, because no one in thier right mind would make a skill allowing them to duck out of a fight and run at any time without a counter. "i am away that dots some times do take them out, but this is freaking rare" Boy you must be new to MMOs, combat stealth gives u damage imunity for a while other wise it's just a void skill, completely useless, ask the old wargs on lotro...then they switched it to "for 010 seconds damage doesn't take u out of stealth" a little better but dots still got you out after that, and that is exactly how it is right now, you get some immunity time which is fair otherwise why have in combat stealth? any aoe after stealth will just get you de-stealthed...useless... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theMeldo Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 1. you have to use two CDs (your best pvp cd: a 1 min cd 3 second immunity to force effects that dispels everything on you and a 3 min cd vanish) 2. You can't be healed for like 10 seconds, unless talented, so you either have to go hide and meditate 3. its our only escape from ranged attackers on platforms, if you don't have a place to immediately LOS you will die to 2 mercs tracer spam **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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