Soulaufein Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 (edited) WTB actual competitive PvP Starcraft II should cost around what, 50 €? And btw, its that way ------------------------> OP: the day BW includes arenas its the last day of my subscription. Edited January 22, 2012 by Soulaufein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crujido Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Yes, or atleast allow full pre-mades into ques. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theoriginalaks Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 (edited) So much nonsense, fear mongering, and juvenile logic in this thread. You can sum up the majority of the anti-arena arguments like this. "I don't like arena, therefore it should not be in swtor." or "Staw man about why I think arenas are bad!" Its simple, give people multiple routes to access pvp gear and don't force players to play arena for top level pvp gear and boom there is now no reason to complain. All I want is a way to compete against players competitively. Edited January 22, 2012 by Theoriginalaks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelenan Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Yes, or atleast allow full pre-mades into ques. To hell with Premades as well it unbalances the game for solo players. You want Premades, fine, Let premades happen But adjust the que so solo player's don't ever have go up against premades ever. Make so premades only face premades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulaufein Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 All I want is a way to compete against players competitively. You are going to have ranked BGs very soon. But once again all of you people claiming WoW Arenas - the biggest snoozefest in MMO history - are competitive PvP just deserve a monstruous slap in the face. Ive said if before, say it again: MMORPGs are NOT competitive PvP games ; Starcraft II is brilliant at it. Go play it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extenzz Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 (edited) that way, scrubs can stick with random gear bags by playing zergball and the actual good players can 2v2 or 3v3 for points or something Yeah 2v2 and 3v3 are such skill games. I bet you played mage or rogue. Edited January 23, 2012 by Extenzz Typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox_McCloud Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 /unsign No arenas in TOR. Arenas are a skilless sham of pseudo-pvp. Even the WoW pvp designers said that the implementation of arenas was one of their greatest mistakes. People who think arenas are skill based, have no idea what a skill based system is like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterSaucy Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Arenas destroyed wow pvp so definitely no, keep that garbage far away from this game. ^ I agree with this. Please do not consider adding Arenas to SWTOR. BW, you DON'T have to do the same as every other MMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YamamotoRo Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Dont bring WoW features into this awesome game...and let the thread die...stop posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattotwo Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Arenas destroyed wow pvp so definitely no, keep that garbage far away from this game. Agree plz don't bring in arenas, coz all world pvp will die and all elities will come out of the wood works. Go play wow if you want arenas. Hopefully they work on more WZsand better world pvp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinuouss Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 The problem with arena is that community will begin demanding balance changes that will affect pve. Overtime, this process hurt wow, and now blizzard has all but jettisoned their talent tree (horrible change imo). You see demand for balance changes from warzones, but battleground type pvp is much less about what class trumps who, but is far more tactical and teamwork oriented. In arenas, you will see RMP cookie cutter groups, while other specs will feel underpowered. I can't really imagine a sniper who has to be in cover to use his abilities to be that great in an arena where mobility is king. In battlegrounds, being a stationary turret is viable because there is much more going on and you can sit back while attention is focused elsewhere. I say no to arena only because it will force developers to make balance changes that will ultimately leave everyone feeling sour about pvp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andytheape Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 (edited) I would like an Arena system in the game, but I also understand why so many wouldn't want it. I had an idea the other day, when me and some guildmembers were dueling (and betting in-game credits): Duels between more than just two players! 2v2, 3v3 and 4v4 duels would be awesome and should be really easy to implement. Now I know this is a feature many wouldn't make use of, but some would and it doesn't really have any downsides or negative effects on the game in any way. It probably won't take more than a few hours for a programmer to design it. Sometimes it's nice to have something different than just the WoW standard you know. Edited January 23, 2012 by andytheape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlacke Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 No... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealAeiouy Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Just say no to multiplayer dueling / Warzones for dummies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Philar Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 I will only sign on one condition, that all Arena teams be 4 person and require one of each base class. WoW Arenas had nothing to do with skill, but were based entirely upon the composition. Remove that as a means of gaining an advantage and you make it more PvP-oriented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealAeiouy Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 I played for 6 years and was a 3 time gladiator. Arena was the most fun I had in the game by far Now if you could learn how to fight and do objectives you could be good at real pvp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Softlyz Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 I will only sign on one condition, that all Arena teams be 4 person and require one of each base class. WoW Arenas had nothing to do with skill, but were based entirely upon the composition. Remove that as a means of gaining an advantage and you make it more PvP-oriented. its a neat idea, might would work as a stand alone bracket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rymanb Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Yes, or atleast allow full pre-mades into ques. I don't like Arenas they don't take skill its just Flavor of the month...but As you said here....Full Premades = Win me and 7 guildies in Teamspeak takes skill to coordinate in raids in pvp its even harder as you don't have any set path on your opposition like you would with raids. Anyone who says premades don't = skill but Arenas do is a idiot as Arenas ARE premades on a smaller scale as for subs for wow going up with BC as one poster said..Arenas weren't the only reason subs went up so if you are gonna use that to fuel the "SWTOR needs arenas" then you clearly are ether A) Stupid ....or.... B) Think those opposed to Arenas are stupid As many others have said if you want Arenas go back to WoW or wait for Guild Wars 2 I am sure GW2 will have it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaoslegionX Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 /signed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordRaevin Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 lol, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altyrell Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 (edited) To all those that are against Arenas because of WoW: WHAT IF the Arena System wasn't created like WoW's System? WHAT IF they included PvE Arenas? WHAT IF Arenas only offered Commendations, PvP & PvE? WHAT IF Arenas only offered Titles? Oh, and one more thing: There is already at least 1 Arena in the Bounty Hunter's Storyline and Huttball takes place IN an Arena arenas in swtor? this isn't WoW. this may sound offensive to you hardcore pvpers but ....its a sh*tty idea, imo. And guess what, Arenas exist in Star Wars. Once again, WoW's System is NOT the only way to go. Everquest 1's Arena System is far different then that of WoW's System Edited January 23, 2012 by Altyrell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malice_Nihilim Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Arenas were a horrible idea in WoW and would be an extra horrible idea here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altyrell Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Pass on having arena in SWTOR. Then you will see gear obtained only from Arena, then that adds an extra step for people to grind in order to survive in any kind of PvP Really, are you serious? Do you even know how PvP Gear is currently obtained? IF they awarded PvP Commendations through Arenas, even at a lower amount, you honestly think that THAT will kill Warzones and Ilum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerusdave Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 lets see them fixing the classes, the lag, the abilitydelay and responsivness before the talk about arena starts? nothing of the pvp in this game can be thought of as competetive, except same faction huttball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altyrell Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Arenas were a horrible idea in WoW and would be an extra horrible idea here. If they weren't created or implemented exactly like they were in WoW, why would they be horrible? I do love how you and several others are ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL fixated on how they blew in WoW and don't even realize (or at least it seems like you all fail to realize) that WoW's System is NOT THE ONLY SYSTEM. It also astonishes me at how many people seem to not realize that Arenas, PvP & PvE, can be so much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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