Tsukae Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Sir is a military thing and can, at times of extreme authority, be used as a gender neutral term. It really depends where you are(country/region) and this is in space so quit complaining about the game not conforming to your cultural norms. Besides, mam has certain gender roles attached to it while sir is simply a recognition of authority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qoojo Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 I've been in the US military for 8 1/2 years and no female officer is ever called Sir. Maybe in other countries, but not in the US. As far as SW universe, I believe it's always been that way. I was in the army about 20 years ago, and I thought I remembered being taunt to address them as ma'am. Being in a combat unit at the time, I don't ever recall having to face the issue because there were none around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirska Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Am I the only one that came here expecting something from Charlie Brown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XelaDaBeast Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 It is standard military protocol to address all officers, regardless of gender, as "Sir". 2nd this. If it REALLY bothers you that much, try playing as a Jedi (or any other non-military based story line), this doesn't happen within those stories! I may be wrong though, I haven't played through an entire story line yet, just what I've seen in the stories I've done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulstitchMMO Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 There is no branch of military in the United States to which female officers are ever called Sir. Period. Also NCO's don't get saluted. Former 2D Tank Battalion, 2D Mar Div, USMC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HELhikari Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 (edited) 'Sir' is the title given to knights in feudal times. Since women were not allowed to fight, there were no female knights to be called sir. It's still the title given to knights Women still can't be a Knight Bachelor or a Knight Banneret (not that one of those has been created since 1642). They generally get made a KBE instead, which gives them the title Dame. Men appointed as KBEs are still Sir (and their wives are styled Lady). (Obviously this is just how it works in the UK) Edited January 21, 2012 by HELhikari Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seravie Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 (edited) In the Lore Codex that explains the Star Wars Republic Military Organization Something like "Because the Republic military is diverse with different species, holding rank all officers are called 'Sir' regardless of gender." Edited January 21, 2012 by Seravie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubblebass Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Actually I was in the air force back between 92-96 and they had just made the transition from calling female officers 'sir'. So, yes, although you don't hear it much anymore, they used to call them sir. For those of you that have never heard that, it may have been before your time. Also, in Star Wars, there is a lore item you can find that explains the rank system and Seargent is an officer in this system. Not an NCO so they would be saluted and called Sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabloosh Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 (edited) It is standard military protocol to address all officers, regardless of gender, as "Sir". Not sure about the Navy but not in the Marines or Army. Air Force is alright... except you refer to women of higher rank as Ma'am. Army and Marines want their NCOs referred by their rank more then just Sir or Ma'am. They can get really upset about it. Edited January 21, 2012 by Kabloosh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyriaFrost Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Boy, if the OP flips about this, imagine what'll happen when they play a female sith, and constantly get called "my lord". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuno Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Sir is the appropriate term for a female officer. Maam is secondary but rarely used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsaucdiv Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 People...care...about this? Alrighty then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamuraBob_Fl Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Not sure about the Navy but not in the Marines or Army. Air Force is alright... except you refer to women of higher rank as Ma'am. Army and Marines want their NCOs referred by their rank more then just Sir or Ma'am. They can get really upset about it. Naval Officers are called Ma'am. And yeah, trying calling a Sergeant Major "Sir" lol. They don't like having their hard work belittled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Safiir Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 In the Lore Codex that explains the Star Wars Republic Military Organization Something like "Because the Republic military is diverse with different species, holding rank all officers are called 'Sir' regardless of gender." Indeed, how would you call someone from a genderless species if you don't use unified honorifics? People need to stop thinking the sw universe is the same as ours >< Neither the laws of physics are the same nor the cultural or moral values. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ommm Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 (edited) So would the op like to be called queen instead? Edited January 21, 2012 by Ommm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ameenachan Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 I dont really mind it, I'm pretty much cool about the whole story~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortoises Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 (edited) It is standard military protocol to address all officers, regardless of gender, as "Sir". No it isn't. You should serve in the military before you start talking about it like you know about it. It annoyed me that the General was being called Sir, because I served in the Marine Corps, and we call NCOs and Officers Sir if they are male and Ma'am if they are female. Edit: NCOs are called by their rank not sir or ma'am sorry mistype Edited January 21, 2012 by Tortoises Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamuraBob_Fl Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 (edited) No it isn't. You should serve in the military before you start talking about it like you know about it. It annoyed me that the General was being called Sir, because I served in the Marine Corps, and we call NCOs and Officers Sir if they are male and Ma'am if they are female. No we don't. We call officers Sir or Ma'am and NCO's by their rank. Flippin' boot Edited January 21, 2012 by SamuraBob_Fl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortoises Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 No we don't. We call officers Sir or Ma'am and NCO's by their rank. Flippin' boot I corrected myself but yeah 98-02 not a boot , semper fi anyway devil nuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kneemo Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 (edited) people use to call women sir in the real world too. it was common practice in the old times to call the lady above you sir just like anyone else above you. it's not a matter of male or female, it's simply signifying that you acknowledge that the person is above you in rank and power. Edited January 21, 2012 by Kneemo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qoojo Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 No we don't. We call officers Sir or Ma'am and NCO's by their rank. Flippin' boot Meh, Sgt works for most of time until you start getting up around 1st sgt and above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrushSoda Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 I don't know if you've noticed, but there are people running around throwing lightning. Stop and acknowledge that maybe, just MAYBE, you aren't in Kansas anymore Dorthy. The same rules don't apply here. Also: Lore more, rage less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxil Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 No it isn't. You should serve in the military before you start talking about it like you know about it. It annoyed me that the General was being called Sir, because I served in the Marine Corps, and we call NCOs and Officers Sir if they are male and Ma'am if they are female. When reporting, or crossing paths, we were expected to use ma'am, but in all the ftx we did the female co's made it a point to tell us to just use sir. It saved time and thought processes better used elsewhere. However one of the other posters is right. Most if not all the branches during the 90's transitioned from using sir for both genders, to ma'am for the female co's. . That doesn't mean some units had already switched/preferred ma'am beforehand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrushSoda Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Also, really enjoying the military trivia time, The More You Know!#rainbow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamuraBob_Fl Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 I corrected myself but yeah 98-02 not a boot , semper fi anyway devil nuts Hahaha! 99-03. Oohrah Teuffelhunden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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