Jocken Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 (edited) We got options. We are their bosses. We pay their bills. They need to listen to us and take action. This has gone of far enough with maintanence in mid game time for europeans and never for americans. they claim its the time when least players play. they are of course now showing any kind of statistics proving this is the case. They just want you to take their word for it. same as they claim they "spoken with players and listen to their ideas" and yet when asked they dont produce any player or any names. Its all smoke an mirror and they are not caring about the customers at all. It is time we in europe send the company a signal that either you sit up and pay attention or we will go to another game. Bugs needs fixing, game needs maintaining, we all agree on that. But what we do NOT agree on is that the schedualled time for doing this is during daytime and now evening time for europeans. In the name of fairness we in europe should demand (not request, not just "its a good idea" or even suggest) that the maintanence times vary, let the americans as well taste it when their game time is interrupted for maintanence in their prime time. Thats what fair play means, to be equal to everyone, let everyone feel the sting of not being able to play. Now the americans are going to go "quit whining etc" cause its not hitting them and their attitude is always "better you get hit than we do and we are the rulers of the world" but in reality there is more subscribers that gets hit by this than there is americans. so how do one send the company a signal? for one every EU subscriber that has had enough of this can cancel their subscription. after the company notices a drop in revenue or subscribers they will take action. dont believe it happens? check out blizzard. they make an entire expansion to flirt with the asian subscribers to get the millions of them on the blizzard side. thats while they lose subscribers in the million... so BW I challenge you as a company to listen to the EU subscribers and be fair. either split up the maintanence in 2 and do it night time for both sides of the world or start shelling out free time to comepnsate for the lack of play that europeans have. Soon the newspapers and the public will notice how bad this is done and same thing that happend with Final Fantasy XIV is gonna happen with SWTOR. They either go FTP while fixing all issues or they drop subscribers until nothing is left and they have to start all over again. The board members of the company wont be very happy if expected earnings starts dropping... believe that. Edited January 19, 2012 by Jocken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixthousand Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 We got options. We are their bosses. We pay their bills. They need to listen to us and take action. This has gone of far enough with maintanence in mid game time for europeans and never for americans. they claim its the time when least players play. they are of course now showing any kind of statistics proving this is the case. They just want you to take their word for it. same as they claim they "spoken with players and listen to their ideas" and yet when asked they dont produce any player or any names. Its all smoke an mirror and they are not caring about the customers at all. It is time we in europe send the company a signal that either you sit up and pay attention or we will go to another game. Bugs needs ficing, game needs maintaining, we all agree on that. But what we do NOT agree on is that the schedualled time for doing this is during daytime and now evening time for europeans. In the name of fairness we in europe should demand (not request, not just "its a good idea" or even suggest) that the maintanence times vary, let the americans as well taste it when their game time is interrupted for maintanence in their prime time. Thats what fair play means, to be equal to everyone, let everyone feel the sting of not being able to play. Now the americans are going to go "quit whining etc" cause its not hitting them and their attitude is always "better you get hit than we do and we are the rulers of the world" but in reality there is more subscribers that gets hit by this than there is americans. so how do one send the company a signal? for one every EU subscriber that has had enough of this can cancel their subscription. after the company notices a drop in revenue or subscribers they will take action. dont believe it happens? check out blizzard. they make an entire expansion to flirt with the asian subscribers to get the millions of them on the blizzard side. thats while they lose subscribers in the million... so BW I challenge you as a company to listen to the EU subscribers and be fair. either split up the maintanence in 2 and do it night time for both sides of the world or start shelling out free time to comepnsate for the lack of play that europeans have. Soon the newspapers and the public will notice how bad this is done and same thing that happend with Final Fantasy XIV is gonna happen with SWTOR. They either go FTP while fixing all issues or they drop subscribers until nothing is left and they have to start all over again. The board members of the company wont be very happy if expected earnings starts dropping... believe that. it's been a month ffs, i really can't wait till all you complaining *** ******* lose your forum access Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eXes Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 It is time for you to know that you are not the whole of Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aniaden Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 (edited) Good lord, take a break for a few hours. It's not the end of the world, the rest of us can't play during maintenance. But if it enrages you this much un sub and find a game that has a more acceptable maintenance schedule. Edited January 19, 2012 by Aniaden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahulena Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Well... many of us who actually have a job are not affected by this. At least that applies to me *shrug* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osmaht Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Yeah, Europe will march! Oh hang on, I just remembered you =/= all of Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonkwin Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 try getting a job.. might help filling your spare time over the day with activity seriously.. what the hell? cant you live for 4 hours wihtout that game? i bet youre one of those QQ guys that is constantly proclaming that this game is doomed and full of bugs... and yet if there is a downtime you start qq all over again... god i **** you guys.... for all i care they could do a week downtime if it fixes a few bugs and kills the damn loading overlay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhav Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 I couldn't agree more I am sick and tired and always having to suffer when Bioware decide to run a maintenance. Why must it always be us Europeans ? I think its time for BioWare to alternate between the American Time Zones and us here is Europe otherwise I and I am sure others are seriously thinking of cancelling our subscriptions. Rhavin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aniaden Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 I couldn't agree more I am sick and tired and always having to suffer when Bioware decide to run a maintenance. Why must it always be us Europeans ? I think its time for BioWare to alternate between the American Time Zones and us here is Europe otherwise I and I am sure others are seriously thinking of cancelling our subscriptions. Rhavin Go for it, sounds like you need a break anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder-God Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 (edited) It's middle of your afternoon FFS...and normally it's mid-morning to mid-day when it happens...hardly your primetime in either case. You think you have it bad....think about Oceanic players...they get hit in their primetime every damn time maintenance happens. THEY have a right to complain...they are the only ones who deserve any form of compensation...and even then it should only be for when they hold an extra downtime like today's. Edited January 19, 2012 by Thunder-God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelleth Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 To topic creator. You do not speak for europe only for yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicalPremise Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Let me get this straight. They are patching a gamebreaking issue that nearly wrecked the entire goodwill of the 1.1 patch. They are trying to get it up as fast as possible. They have hordes of people, even former fanboys, screaming about unsubbing if this isn't fixed ASAP. And you want it delayed because it impacts your personal gaming time? Do us all a favor, kid. Unsub right now. I don't care if it impacts your game time for four hours. Guess what? This is my prime time to play, since I work from home and quit when the kids get home. It affects me too. I'm not kvetching over it though, because these things have to happen sometime. Just get over yourself , or unsub. But honestly, no one wants to hear thinly-disguised Amercia bashing in the guise of a complaint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sykologist Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Isn't Europe's economy on the verge of collapsing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Therrak Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 it's been a month ffs, i really can't wait till all you complaining *** ******* lose your forum access I think he has a legitimate concern about maintenance times, so stuff it. I'm guessing the reason why the Europeans have a maintenance time that coincides with ours in North America is because they don't want people from one region flooding the other region's servers during maintenance for the first region. If they separated the maintenance times and region locked the servers during maintenance, we wouldn't have to worry about maintenance during anyone's prime time, except the Aussies. But who cares about them and their kangaroos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkateOnTrees Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 (edited) We got options. We are their bosses. We pay their bills. They need to listen to us and take action. This has gone of far enough with maintanence in mid game time for europeans and never for americans. they claim its the time when least players play. they are of course now showing any kind of statistics proving this is the case. They just want you to take their word for it. same as they claim they "spoken with players and listen to their ideas" and yet when asked they dont produce any player or any names. Its all smoke an mirror and they are not caring about the customers at all. It is time we in europe send the company a signal that either you sit up and pay attention or we will go to another game. Bugs needs fixing, game needs maintaining, we all agree on that. But what we do NOT agree on is that the schedualled time for doing this is during daytime and now evening time for europeans. In the name of fairness we in europe should demand (not request, not just "its a good idea" or even suggest) that the maintanence times vary, let the americans as well taste it when their game time is interrupted for maintanence in their prime time. Thats what fair play means, to be equal to everyone, let everyone feel the sting of not being able to play. Now the americans are going to go "quit whining etc" cause its not hitting them and their attitude is always "better you get hit than we do and we are the rulers of the world" but in reality there is more subscribers that gets hit by this than there is americans. so how do one send the company a signal? for one every EU subscriber that has had enough of this can cancel their subscription. after the company notices a drop in revenue or subscribers they will take action. dont believe it happens? check out blizzard. they make an entire expansion to flirt with the asian subscribers to get the millions of them on the blizzard side. thats while they lose subscribers in the million... so BW I challenge you as a company to listen to the EU subscribers and be fair. either split up the maintanence in 2 and do it night time for both sides of the world or start shelling out free time to comepnsate for the lack of play that europeans have. Soon the newspapers and the public will notice how bad this is done and same thing that happend with Final Fantasy XIV is gonna happen with SWTOR. They either go FTP while fixing all issues or they drop subscribers until nothing is left and they have to start all over again. The board members of the company wont be very happy if expected earnings starts dropping... believe that. Please god go back to hello kitty online Edited January 19, 2012 by SkateOnTrees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerda Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 I would like to see night time maintenance at a suitable European time for us. It's not asking much to have our maintenance done overnight (sometime after midnight) ather than in the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valorian Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 We got options. We are their bosses. We pay their bills. They need to listen to us and take action. This has gone of far enough with maintanence in mid game time for europeans and never for americans. they claim its the time when least players play. they are of course now showing any kind of statistics proving this is the case. They just want you to take their word for it. same as they claim they "spoken with players and listen to their ideas" and yet when asked they dont produce any player or any names. Its all smoke an mirror and they are not caring about the customers at all. It is time we in europe send the company a signal that either you sit up and pay attention or we will go to another game. Bugs needs fixing, game needs maintaining, we all agree on that. But what we do NOT agree on is that the schedualled time for doing this is during daytime and now evening time for europeans. In the name of fairness we in europe should demand (not request, not just "its a good idea" or even suggest) that the maintanence times vary, let the americans as well taste it when their game time is interrupted for maintanence in their prime time. Thats what fair play means, to be equal to everyone, let everyone feel the sting of not being able to play. Now the americans are going to go "quit whining etc" cause its not hitting them and their attitude is always "better you get hit than we do and we are the rulers of the world" but in reality there is more subscribers that gets hit by this than there is americans. so how do one send the company a signal? for one every EU subscriber that has had enough of this can cancel their subscription. after the company notices a drop in revenue or subscribers they will take action. dont believe it happens? check out blizzard. they make an entire expansion to flirt with the asian subscribers to get the millions of them on the blizzard side. thats while they lose subscribers in the million... so BW I challenge you as a company to listen to the EU subscribers and be fair. either split up the maintanence in 2 and do it night time for both sides of the world or start shelling out free time to comepnsate for the lack of play that europeans have. Soon the newspapers and the public will notice how bad this is done and same thing that happend with Final Fantasy XIV is gonna happen with SWTOR. They either go FTP while fixing all issues or they drop subscribers until nothing is left and they have to start all over again. The board members of the company wont be very happy if expected earnings starts dropping... believe that. Would you like some more cheese with your whine, thats the way it is just have to deal with it go cut the grass or do mums house work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedipwnsauce Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 LOL europe. stop whining no one cares, the North american market is more important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Crueak Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Just because europe is all about entitlement doesn't mean that everyone else has to bow down to your demands. Get over it. You can always decline that Eula you agree too and then never have to worry about the maintence schedules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerda Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 I think he has a legitimate concern about maintenance times, so stuff it. I'm guessing the reason why the Europeans have a maintenance time that coincides with ours in North America is because they don't want people from one region flooding the other region's servers during maintenance for the first region. If they separated the maintenance times and region locked the servers during maintenance, we wouldn't have to worry about maintenance during anyone's prime time, except the Aussies. But who cares about them and their kangaroos. To be honest if both regions got their maintenance at equivalent times there wouldn't be many trying to get on the other's servers. Lets face it the reason it's done between 2am and whatever time is because it is off peak and there aren't many players about. It is the quietest gaming time even if there are a minority of overnight players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zuile Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 This is an emergency patch so it's a bit different, but if the regular maintenance during EU day time keeps up past another month then it's time to think of protesting about it because that would be utterly ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrache Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 stop using Monopoly game money for your currency. Then maybe somebody will pay attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asuka Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 It's not changing so deal with it like everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KLGr Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 The OP's rhetoric sounds very American to me. I mean who in Europe speaks like that? We got options. We are their bosses. We pay their bills. They need to listen to us and take action. Not even British pensioners who write to BBC to complain about Clarkson's latest dodgy comment. OP don't forget to provide us a link to find which Congressman corresponds to our zip code.. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harower Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Hi, I'm an Australian. server maintenance for us is 7pm. MMO maintanance during Australian Primetime has been standard for years. I speak on behalf of Australian when I say "SUCK IT UP" Go cry about your worthless Euro or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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