ptwonline Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 I doubt 15-20% of the playerbase has even visited ilum. Yup. Highest pop zones I have seen (only 2 servers but still) are the ones in the teens to the thirties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueneko Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 I honestly had no idea the population imbalance was so horrid. I play on Empire. I want things to be even and fair. Guess I won't be visiting Ilum anytime soon. I feel for the Republic players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkitaInu Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Roll back all valor for 1/18/2012. Why? You do that and and you will see nerd rage that was not seen jet on this forum, plus rage quiting and rolling pandas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlyxDinas Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 This is true, it's refreshing to see some normal people who haven't succumbed to the drama and hysteria here. Part of the issue is that the nature of how the issue is address might not fix all the larger repercussions. Fixing the zone is all great but it doesn't mean anything when there's a major valor imbalance that persists after wards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlacke Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 I doubt 15-20% of the playerbase has even visited ilum. This is also very true, vast majority of players aren't there yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundragon Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Made about 60k valor today. Crashed about 4 times in the process. Game is borked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikoul Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 They fixed quite a few issues from the looks of it. This will be another that will be fixed. a player can hope. haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beakertanks Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 The massacre aside, I'm very hopeful that the number of players claiming to cancel their subscriptions are as honest as they are vehement. I can't wait for the lessened server load, especially considering the depopulation comes from whiners and those who cannot abide hard work or alternatives. I'm also glad that SWToR has as many different activities (Space Combat, PvE fights and puzzles, Flashpoints, Datacron hunts, crafting, etc) to do. One sub-set experiences problems, in this case PvP, and manifold other options still exist whilst it is being fixed. As a Republic player and a Jedi that doesn't plan to play anything else, I'm not worried about the faction imbalance or the farmed Valor and Battlemaster items. Being a Jedi represents sacrifice, working hard for tempered power instead of easy and quick power, and being grossly outnumbered due to choice of ethics and practices. If anything, I praise Bioware for making this situation exemplify the Jedi philosophy. For those who are getting steamrolled on Ilum: please don't take it out on Bioware; find alternative forms of entertainment and trust that their great game so far is insurance that they are interested in a great game in the future. Realize that complaints and rage do nothing to improve the situation. For those who are taking advantage of the situation: I truly wish you wouldn't, but you pay your money to Bioware for the ability to do so. Therefore, if you choose to do so, do so in good conscience and don't take the numerous cries of my butt-hurt Republicans as representative of us all. I'll be back to Ilum when planetary politics and technology are back under control, and hope to meet you there. For Bioware PR folks: I'm so sorry. You are doing your job, and I'm sure you understand that your clientele is comprised of flustered teenagers and homebodies who choose not to acquiesce to any change whatsoever. Even so, I truly hope you can continue to work as hard as you have been, and rest assured that at least some of us appreciate your efforts on behalf of your company and will remain patient. PvP gets a quarter of each factions home base, half of the endgame gear, and probably a third of overall endgame play time. It is not insignificant. Just because something doesn't affect you does not mean it is not a problem. And have fun finding Operation groups when you lose a significant portion of your endgame players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lhorian Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 They could give ruplics 10x the valor per kill, 0 x 10 still ='s 0 Nah, like someone else posted they should give Republic valor when they die. At least then it would be a bit more fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSearcher Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 The pvp community will survive, the only damage being ones pride. 1.1 will kill what little community TOR had IF 1.1 was an exploit and just a few exploiters were benefiting from it they could repair it, this is 100 server systems wide with thousands of exploiters, there only fix is going to be a roll back, for if they do not put things back to the point they were before 1.1, this will kill TOR, as surly as an arrow to the knee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratham Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Why? You do that and and you will see nerd rage that was not seen jet on this forum, plus rage quiting and rolling pandas! Stop trying to cling on to your free valor ranks / battlemaster... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otohime Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 (edited) yes we are and we hope u met in your arena one off those farmed battlmaster Edited January 18, 2012 by Otohime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malignment Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 This PvP system is gunna be a gimp for fresh 50s really hoping that cross realm battle groups for warzones will be implemented soon. I know it will kill the community feel of playing with people on your server, but it is better than what we are currently facing. That would fix anything since factions are unbalanced in every server. It would just make it suck a little less for some servers, and suck a little more for others. Queue times in wow STILL SUCKED after cross realm queues until the populations balanced out when they have horde blood elves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tservo Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 About 30-40 minutes of pvp, got through a little over 1/2 of rank 52 valor on Imp side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obaro Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 shus it obaro they knew this stuff from the moment they even thought of this damn patch. Yeah, they knew about it and told us that they were going to not give out the patch and hold off. Then people started gathering their pitchforks and torches and they gave in. So we technically got what we asked for. A patch that they said had issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powercow Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 The massacre aside, I'm very hopeful that the number of players claiming to cancel their subscriptions are as honest as they are vehement. I can't wait for the lessened server load, especially considering the depopulation comes from whiners and those who cannot abide hard work or alternatives. Hard work (at least for an MMO) is getting to Valor 60 using Warzones. It takes a while and it includes a LOT of PvP. This patch is destroying all of that by giving it out to anyone who happened to pick Imperial first. You don't even need to be 50 to do it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsdigita Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 I heard George Lucas retired because of the 1.1 Ilum patch... This is not true is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambnet Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Calm down guys it's going all according to plan. There is no mass exodus of people, they are still patching Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelticfury Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 (edited) According the people complaining in this thread, there are more repubs complaining about thhis issue than there are repubs that have been effected by this. Awesome stuff. Edited January 18, 2012 by Kelticfury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoupyNuggs Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Why? You do that and and you will see nerd rage that was not seen jet on this forum, plus rage quiting and rolling pandas! Don't roll back valor and you get the same result. Complete catch-22 for bioware atm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agelmar Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Healers in groups don't get Valor unless they damage the enemy? Pretty basic oversight on a simple mechanic. Group gets credit for each kill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seriasx Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Why? You do that and and you will see nerd rage that was not seen jet on this forum, plus rage quiting and rolling pandas! They have to rollback, there is no choice anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordius Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 arrow to the knee Yep - BIOWARE just took one.....but will it be fatal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cidion Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 I do wonder how many ppl they will lose with this patch, and with ppl I mean us (players). The first few months can make or brake a mmo. Lets hope they can fix this.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendpet Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 My concern is that when they fix it they allow the valor levels to be kept. If that's the case then we will see dozens of imp battlemasters and pvp will be unwinnable. Rep will never catch up. even in PVE the battlemaster gear is so good that we might even see downings of nightmare EV16 tonight. I'm sure others share my concerns. THAT'S why I will not calm the **** down. Columi gear has better stats and better stat priority than battlemaster gear for pve, I think you'll be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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