Zhorx Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 (edited) After some testing with both Cauterize and Overload Saber i seem to only get the crit bonus from Surge Rating, Searing Saber doesn't add 30% crit damage. Is this some known bug? Or the tooltip being outdated on the talent? Googling it came up blank. Edited January 17, 2012 by Zhorx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDaniels Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Not sure... but if that is true thats a HUGE dps hit that we're taking right now. If our burns are doing 30% less when they crit then we would be borderline OP with that extra damage, zen would give us amazing burst. Someone else should test it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rankith Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 After some testing with both Cauterize and Overload Saber i seem to only get the crit bonus from Surge Rating, Searing Saber doesn't add 30% crit damage. Is this some known bug? Or the tooltip being outdated on the talent? Googling it came up blank. This is definately worth investigating. I just respecced wish I had seen this first so I could test it. Too much of a Nit to pay to respec right now lol. I'm assuming you tested by not having talent, using Cauterize and OS on a target, then getting talent and testing on same target right? Man, super awesome if this is currently bugged cause that would be a great damage boost lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhorx Posted January 18, 2012 Author Share Posted January 18, 2012 (edited) This is definately worth investigating. I just respecced wish I had seen this first so I could test it. Too much of a Nit to pay to respec right now lol. I'm assuming you tested by not having talent, using Cauterize and OS on a target, then getting talent and testing on same target right? Man, super awesome if this is currently bugged cause that would be a great damage boost lol. I did not test it by not having the talent and then picking it up point by point. But will likely respec tomorrow (european) and run a full test depending if i get time to play. What i noticed was burn effects having the exact same crit bonus as any other ability, even though i should have an additional 30% crit damage boost to them. As in... having 79.5 % damage bonus to crits (50% baseline + 29.5% surge rating) on the paper doll my burn DOT crits were exactly 79.5% higher than my hits. They have no damage range so it's always the same numbers popping up. It wasn't the expected 109.5% damage bonus (50% baseline + 29.5% surge + 30% talent) Testing with other, non-burn DOT, abilities they also had ~79.5% higher damage on crits. The ability damage range made the numbers i got vary a bit, but all were close enough to 79.5%. It quite simply seemed like burns did not have any additional crit bonus, which they should if the talent worked as the tooltip suggests. Edited January 18, 2012 by Zhorx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunwindIon Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 After some testing with both Cauterize and Overload Saber i seem to only get the crit bonus from Surge Rating, Searing Saber doesn't add 30% crit damage. Is this some known bug? Or the tooltip being outdated on the talent? Googling it came up blank. copy and paste the first paragraph into a bug report, I just did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sniser Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 he is right, I have 76.98% crit bonus with 50% base + 26.98% surge. my cauterize hits for 234 and crits for 414. Looks like a bug and Searing saber is doing nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimMage Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Is it possible that this bug + ability stuttering is the core of Sentinel's issue? Of course that would mean that if this is true that watchman would be the sole tree to use since its already better than the other 2 even without the 30% crit dmg bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReFlexionn Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 bIOWARE dEVS: oh shi-, we've been figured out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyteblades Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Yea the stuttering and miss fires as well as not getting the crits we supposed to. Also the whole force stasis thing where its not supposed to stun you when used and be an instant yea thats still busted as well. Again to me it looks like they just threw in new content and said they fixed these things hopeing we wouldnt notice they didnt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rankith Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Wow, I can't believe this didn't get caught sooner lol. We fail at theorycraft and mathing stuffs ><. Based on my char sheet and numbers I see I can confirm this too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satsujinki Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 I can confirm it aswell. It's been like this all the way since release aswell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acanti Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Just... what... WOW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kakL Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 I really hope they fix this! So much damage we're missing out on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shyrshadi Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Bug confirmed. 87.03 surge. 659 tick on overload and 1233 crit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnunzi Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Put tickets in, get this noticed! This is a HUGE chunk of damage we are missing, this could be the difference between a kill and a death in PVP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avidx Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Curious if the Marauder equivalent is also bugged. Sadly, I'm not expecting this to get fixed anytime soon. But we can try. Send in tickets and keep this thread alive to get the word out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torydoolan Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 what a fail.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhuntly Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Bump. I noticed it too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandoichi Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 indeed..it does not work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgZoeller Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Hi guys, We'll look into this. -- Georg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extinction Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Curious if the Marauder equivalent is also bugged. Sadly, I'm not expecting this to get fixed anytime soon. But we can try. Send in tickets and keep this thread alive to get the word out. Same for mara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyromoo Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 (edited) Just...what? Seriously? Oh my god. I may be combat, but missing something like this. Good god. Edit: If this is TRUE, then EVERYONE needs to know about this. Keep this topic bumped. Edited January 19, 2012 by Kyromoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowefly Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 It is indeed bugged. Hopefully BW resolves this soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyromoo Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Currently checking with Watchman Sentinels to get a secondary confirmation. If i get one, I'll test it personally for a first-hand confirmation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiggeh Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Same damage with and without. I never noticed before well spotted, I will ask some Marauders to check also see if they have the issue. Something that annoyed me the other day was a Marauder choked me then started hitting me while I was choked, now I'm sorry but if we stasis we can not hit people because it cancels it how was he able to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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