Zimms Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 http://i.imgur.com/dwDGS.jpg Imperial flags in the reflection at the fleet. Just rubbing salt in the wound, BW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treko Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 What a joke, LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hushups Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 http://i.imgur.com/dwDGS.jpg Imperial flags in the reflection at the fleet. Just rubbing salt in the wound, BW! Wow, your UI is terri.... oh, wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merihim Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Wow, your UI is terri.... oh, wait. Not sure if troll... Ha nice to rubb it in Bioware Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikkeos Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Ah, that might explain why the fleets are so chunky laggy sucky. Both sides use the same instance, by any chance, and the grafics are superimposed? Sounds to me like one of those ideas. You know, fantastic while you're drunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zimms Posted January 17, 2012 Author Share Posted January 17, 2012 If they decided to do that while they were drunk, it must have been shrooms that made them think not having UI mods was a good idea too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genesiser Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Your republic fleet has about the same amount of people in it as mine does on week nights at around 6 pm central. We beat you by a good 20 people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomskiiii Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Also, the maintenance droid let's us gaze into the Emperial Fleet. Shame on BW really.. http://i.imgur.com/9Mkaa.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duritz Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 so did they not update the reflections to be republic? or is the republic just s skin on-top of an instanced imperial fleet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Force_Capitalism Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Keep in mind the 'Republic' fleet is identical in design to the Imperial one. The Emperor probably lured the greatest of the Republic's heroes into a fleet ship he controls. It would serve no purpose to simply kill the Republic yet, when you can gather so much information, cause so many lag spikes for luls and at the right time, completely confuse the Republic fleet just before a major assault. The fleet is 'docked' near enough to coruscant that the whole thing could have been built during its' sacking by the Empire. The Sith are masters of deception. The reflection of light however, has betrayed the ruse to cunning Republic heroes, but is it too late? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duritz Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Keep in mind the 'Republic' fleet is identical in design to the Imperial one. The Emperor probably lured the greatest of the Republic's heroes into a fleet ship he controls. It would serve no purpose to simply kill the Republic yet, when you can gather so much information, cause so many lag spikes for luls and at the right time, completely confuse the Republic fleet just before a major assault. The fleet is 'docked' near enough to coruscant that the whole thing could have been built during its' sacking by the Empire. The Sith are masters of deception. The reflection of light however, has betrayed the ruse to cunning Republic heroes, but is it too late? clever cover story, i am sure it will be used Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleinone Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Had to cut some corners for a Christmas launch. Sorry Republic. We'll get to it eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynkilen Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Wow i feel betrayed, shows how much less was put into rep fleet then imp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mazher Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 They probably generated a cube map using the imp fleet, then used it as an environment map for both stations since they are so similar. This is pretty common. At least they took the time to make the map, a lot of places will use random HDR images to fake a reflective surface. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomskiiii Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 (edited) They probably generated a cube map using the imp fleet, then used it as an environment map for both stations since they are so similar. This is pretty common. At least they took the time to make the map, a lot of places will use random HDR images to fake a reflective surface. Yea, you're right. We should be happy. For a game with a 300m budget, it's normal that they cut corners. The fleets look so similar that the red imperial flags in the reflection of the Republic Fleet barely stand out. Same as all the colours, and architecture. Basicly the same. *sarcasm* All jokes aside, this must've been sloppyness. You can see the entire Emperial Fleet in the droid's reflection. Edited February 5, 2012 by Tomskiiii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomskiiii Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Keep in mind the 'Republic' fleet is identical in design to the Imperial one. The Emperor probably lured the greatest of the Republic's heroes into a fleet ship he controls. It would serve no purpose to simply kill the Republic yet, when you can gather so much information, cause so many lag spikes for luls and at the right time, completely confuse the Republic fleet just before a major assault. The fleet is 'docked' near enough to coruscant that the whole thing could have been built during its' sacking by the Empire. The Sith are masters of deception. The reflection of light however, has betrayed the ruse to cunning Republic heroes, but is it too late? Priceless hehehh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mazher Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 It isn't cutting corners. It is optimization. You can barely, if at all, tell. Using a map generated from the republic fleet wouldn't change much as the majority of the color information you see is coming from the diffuse (color) and specular color(assuming they use one) maps. Both of which are unique to the materials they were made for. This is how games are made. It isn't a cost cutting technique or lazy. The exact same thing is done in pretty much any other game that uses any kind of material/shader system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spotlore Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 This is kinda funny and kinda sad at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dharst Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 so did they not update the reflections to be republic? or is the republic just s skin on-top of an instanced imperial fleet? That gets my vote. It's just a layered instance... Imperials in one... Republic in the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomskiiii Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 (edited) It isn't cutting corners. It is optimization. You can barely, if at all, tell. Using a map generated from the republic fleet wouldn't change much as the majority of the color information you see is coming from the diffuse (color) and specular color(assuming they use one) maps. Both of which are unique to the materials they were made for. This is how games are made. It isn't a cost cutting technique or lazy. The exact same thing is done in pretty much any other game that uses any kind of material/shader system. Ok.. http://i.imgur.com/9Mkaa.jpg Look at the droid. If you can seriously look at that droid's helmet and say that you can barely tell that the reflection on it is in fact not the Republic Fleet interior and architecture, but the Emperial, then in my opinion you should have your eyes checked. If you use these kind of advanced reflections that basicly work like a full fledged mirror, you just can't copy paste the cubemap for those reflections to an area identical in size and shape, but completely different in colour and design. Brown and yellow is not black and red. I can't really put it any more simple than that. Edited February 5, 2012 by Tomskiiii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleinone Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Perhaps you were just hallucinating. Buy your stims and adrenals from a reputable dealer next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mazher Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 It isn't some advanced reflection system, but that is here nor there. Does it screw with your suspension of disbelief to stare at the top of a droid's head and notice the inconsistency with the reflection? Sure. But why are you staring at the droid's head to begin with unless you are hunting for issues. My point is that this is how it is done in EVERY game that isn't using real time reflections. It isn't cost cutting or lazy. It doesn't take a large amount of time to generate the image. If you want to complain about the art, complain about Quesh. It is horrible looking. Feels like it was done at the very last minute to fill a void. By an intern no less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharagonIGN Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Wow... BioWare really does enjoy pissing all over the Republic, don't they. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomskiiii Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 I understand that, but when the reflections are this detailed, [few games i've seen had these extremely polished floors] and almost work like a mirror, bioware shouldn't have copy pasted it. I understand that in most other games, this is also common, but imagine that a game has a room with a mirror and they make a cubemap to reflect the mirror. if they make a clone of the room next to it, but instead of green paint, a red paint, they also edit the cubemap to show red paint on the walls of room B. When the detail of reflection is high, and the colour composition of the area very different from the area you want to copy the cube map from, you simply dont copy it. You edit it to fit the other area. I guess you understood my point 3 posts ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaGun Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 As a Republic player this is pretty upsetting. As if there weren't enough accusations of Bioware playing favorites, somebody has to go and point this out, LOL. I actually did notice this the other day, but since I have never seen the Imperial fleet, I couldn't make the connection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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