Raggnarok Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Read the full article here: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-01-10-bioware-most-people-arent-having-swtor-performance-issues Perfectly shows how detached BioWare is from its community and confirms my decision not to continue playing this technological POS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fdswer Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 I don't have any problems, whats your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mannic Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 (edited) Bull crap Ohlen. I've lost track of the numbers of players with extremely high-end machines complaining about exactly the problem described in the article. So Bioware's stance is simply going to be to deny the issue exists and foist it off on "low-end machines?" My i7 with 12 gigs of RAM and HD6970 would like a word with you, Mr. Ohlen. Edited January 10, 2012 by Mannic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aisar Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 There's no problem as long as you have at least a 4 core and good enough parts to go with it. Perfect example being my recent upgrade from 2 to 4 cores, as well as some other much needed upgrades. You need the proper computer to play this without very noticable slowdowns and FPS loss, even on lowest possible settings for this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subatia Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 I don't have any problems, whats your point? This^ So your immediate response is that BioWare is detached from the community and you completely disregard the possibility that maybe, just maybe, it's TRUE that most players aren't having performance issues? Sounds to me like you'd be upset no matter what BioWare said. Don't let the door hit you on the way out. and that^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angrYdog Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 its true,,,most havent...only the forum complainers with lame PCs thats not to many Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vikassi Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 I have a high end machine, i7 2600k, GTX 590, and 8GB RAM - I am experinecing glitchy performance, etc .. Something is not right here .. Battelfield 3, all other games play amaxing, no glitchiness .. something is wrong with the performance of swtor, which is suprising since its an old engine .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leggomy Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 I have a fairly old computer and the game runs fine for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattdell Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Read the full article here: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-01-10-bioware-most-people-arent-having-swtor-performance-issues Perfectly shows how detached BioWare is from its community and confirms my decision not to continue playing this technological POS. Wait... Bioware does exactly what ANY corporation would do (appease the customer by confirming a problem, whether it exists or not), and you're leaving because you think they are detached from the community? I dare say, you're logic is bass-ackwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mannic Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Wait... Bioware does exactly what ANY corporation would do (appease the customer by confirming a problem, whether it exists or not), and you're leaving because you think they are detached from the community? I dare say, you're logic is bass-ackwards. How does saying the problem only exists for a tiny minority of people who have low-end machines (which is a lie, by the way) serve as "confirming a problem?" It's not confirming the problem, it's marginalizing the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subatia Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 (edited) How does saying the problem only exists for a tiny minority of people who have low-end machines (which is a lie, by the way) serve as "confirming a problem?" It's not confirming the problem, it's marginalizing the problem. What's your machine's specs? Edited January 10, 2012 by Subatia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drewser Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Read the full article here: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-01-10-bioware-most-people-arent-having-swtor-performance-issues Perfectly shows how detached BioWare is from its community and confirms my decision not to continue playing this technological POS. Seems right. Most people are not having issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vikassi Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 if you read all the replies under the OP's original article link, all of them have high end systems and complain of poor fps and lag ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattdell Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 (edited) How does saying the problem only exists for a tiny minority of people who have low-end machines (which is a lie, by the way) serve as "confirming a problem?" It's not confirming the problem, it's marginalizing the problem. Because marginalization is exactly what is needed. The game runs flawlessly for 95~ % of the playerbase. Those other 5%, sure they may have performance issues, but Bioware isn't responsible for fixing the driver errors or router firmware clashes that these people are having. There very well may be a problem with the optimization of the coding, but if a high end rig can't support this game, the simple fact is that that high end rig isn't setup properly. I have a 3 year old PC with a 1 year old video card & matching power supply. I sit at 30-45 fps no matter where I am. You don't need a super computer to play this game, you need a computer that is maintained and setup properly. Edited January 10, 2012 by mattdell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mannic Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 What's your machine's specs? i7 @ 3.8 Ghz with 12 GIGS RAM and a Radeon HD6970 on Win 7 x64. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saltorio Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 (edited) My system is relatively new: built from scratch in July. No framerate issues here except when at fleet during peak times (and there's it's playeable but somewhat choppy... but there I'm just running around buying/selling). i7-2600k16 GBGeForce GTX 570 I haven't heard any of my 25+ guildmates complain of any framerate issues, either. Edited January 10, 2012 by saltorio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mannic Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Because marginalization is exactly what is needed. The game runs flawlessly for 95~ % of the playerbase. Those other 5%, sure they may have performance issues, but Bioware isn't responsible for fixing the driver errors or router firmware clashes that these people are having. There very well may be a problem with the optimization of the coding, but if a high end rig can't support this game, the simple fact is that that high end rig isn't setup properly. So, are you running shadows on "high?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kishe Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 I think this phrase from Ohlen deserves "Baghdad Bob" treatment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kytea Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 I have an old computer (Q6700 Quad core, GTX 275, 4GB RAM) and the game runs fine on my computer ... 1900 x 1200 low settings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yfelsung Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 (edited) Could you provide your data that contradicts Bioware's statement? I'd prefer it in a spreadsheet format, but any format you got will be fine. Please ensure the data is in raw numeric form without any added bias. Edited January 10, 2012 by Yfelsung Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirazy Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Performance issues exist. They could do well to refine their graphics and world performance a bit more. But that said, they are correct in saying that most people have no issues. This game has over a million players. Even if most of the forum is full of people complaining about performance issues, which it isn't, that forum population is merely a fraction of the total player base. So yes, most of their players are either not having issues, or not reporting having issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UjellyTrollicus Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Read the full article here: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-01-10-bioware-most-people-arent-having-swtor-performance-issues Perfectly shows how detached BioWare is from its community and confirms my decision not to continue playing this technological POS. i have no issues. where's your god now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomWhiting Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 They are 100% correct MOST people are enjoying the game. MOST people are not the ones here complaining on the forums. MOST people can play this game just fine A very vocal minority are not doing so. You figure they've got 1m+ purchases of the game since December 20th If even 1% of those 1m+ purchasers are having issues, that's 10k people. 5%? That's 50k. 10? That's 100k, you get the idea. So, let's say 10% of the people that purchase the game are here on the forums complaining , whining, etc.. That's STILL 90% of the people that purchased the game (ie: a majority, or most) enjoying the game with minimal issues. The math supports Bioware, easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppelin Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 (edited) Did you actually read the article, or just skim it and start complaining? What Ohlen said was absolutely correct. Only 5% of people have low performance overall... and yeah that's usually the result of lower end PCs. Where people are having problem is with localized performance issues, meaning they're fine in some places, but have trouble in other specific places. And he completely acknowledged that it was true. But that's a complete separate issue. That has nothing to do with the game as a whole, but localized areas of the game that need optimization. It's a bug, and it'll get fixed. Edited January 10, 2012 by Zeppelin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dafydd Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Bull crap Ohlen. I've lost track of the numbers of players with extremely high-end machines complaining about exactly the problem described in the article. So Bioware's stance is simply going to be to deny the issue exists and foist it off on "low-end machines?" My i7 with 12 gigs of RAM and HD6970 would like a word with you, Mr. Ohlen. I have a Q6600, 4GB RAM, and a 512MB HD6870 from a couple of years back. I'm running just fine at 1920x1080 with graphics set to high then bloom (it looks awful in every game, ever) and shadows (I don't care about them and they're one of the biggest resource hogs) turned off. Nothing is overclocked, everything is stock. CPU runs at around 48 degrees, GPU at around 80, both well within tolerances. You don't need a mega machine to get decent performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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