djvapid Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 A couple days ago, my team was thwarted from scoring in a Huttball match over a dozen times by the opposing team utilizing abilities like Harpoon. And I'm not talking about pulling us into fire pits, poison or off the ramp. They sat at their spawn point and right before we crossed the goal, they pulled us into their spawn, insta-killing us and returning the ball to the neutral zone without a point for our team. As you can tell, this summarily kept us from scoring the entire game. Would you say this is an exploit? That it is glaringly obvious that this shouldn't be allowed? If you do, you would actually be the person who is "in the wrong". One player in particular reported the problem in a ticket and a CSR responded that "Although the ability is not working as intended, it is not considered an exploit by Bioware." If I'm not mistaken, anything "not working as intended" is one of the clear definitions of what a bug/glitch is. Silly me. So since Bioware doesn't believe this is an exploited glitch, let's see what Bioware's consumers say. The people who give them their money. Are you for or against this sort of exploit? Comment below. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evray Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Yeah, make some sort of 'non-combat' zone in the beginning area, I've had this problem too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakinor Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 A couple days ago, my team was thwarted from scoring in a Huttball match over a dozen times by the opposing team utilizing abilities like Harpoon. And I'm not talking about pulling us into fire pits, poison or off the ramp. They sat at their spawn point and right before we crossed the goal, they pulled us into their spawn, insta-killing us and returning the ball to the neutral zone without a point for our team. As you can tell, this summarily kept us from scoring the entire game. Would you say this is an exploit? That it is glaringly obvious that this shouldn't be allowed? If you do, you would actually be the person who is "in the wrong". One player in particular reported the problem in a ticket and a CSR responded that "Although the ability is not working as intended, it is not considered an exploit by Bioware." If I'm not mistaken, anything "not working as intended" is one of the clear definitions of what a bug/glitch is. Silly me. So since Bioware doesn't believe this is an exploited glitch, let's see what Bioware's consumers say. The people who give them their money. Are you for or against this sort of exploit? Comment below. Sounds like a definite exploit since they can literally make it impossible for your team to score making it nearly impossible to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyHeaton Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 A couple days ago, my team was thwarted from scoring in a Huttball match over a dozen times by the opposing team utilizing abilities like Harpoon. And I'm not talking about pulling us into fire pits, poison or off the ramp. They sat at their spawn point and right before we crossed the goal, they pulled us into their spawn, insta-killing us and returning the ball to the neutral zone without a point for our team. As you can tell, this summarily kept us from scoring the entire game. Would you say this is an exploit? That it is glaringly obvious that this shouldn't be allowed? If you do, you would actually be the person who is "in the wrong". One player in particular reported the problem in a ticket and a CSR responded that "Although the ability is not working as intended, it is not considered an exploit by Bioware." If I'm not mistaken, anything "not working as intended" is one of the clear definitions of what a bug/glitch is. Silly me. So since Bioware doesn't believe this is an exploited glitch, let's see what Bioware's consumers say. The people who give them their money. Are you for or against this sort of exploit? Comment below. You realize that pulling the "we are the consumers unite against oppressive Bioware" card makes you look ridiculous, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eegore Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaeton Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Anytime the ball carrier goes beyond the goal line should be a goal, no matter if you get harpooned past it or not. Definitely not working as intended.. not sure I'd define it as an "exploit" though. Seems like a good tactic as long as it's allowed, BW needs to make a few adjustments here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakinor Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Deal with it. And here we have the guy who is exploiting the bug....lol Its one thing when its "oh Im a <class> but <class> beats me" thats usually a matter of skill, knowledge etc. But oh the other team can instakill me and prevent me from completing the objective by exploiting a bug "Deal with it" isn't an appropriate response anymore. And in my experience, people who say deal with it in those situations do so because they are benefiting from said exploit. Honestly if your exploiting like this I seriously hope you get slapped with a permaban:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistress-Rarity Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 This sounds like a huge exploit.. All the exploits in PVP is mostly why I've been avoiding it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hambunctious Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) That has been in the game since the first WZ was made. I used it countless times in huttball, and Alderaan during spawn camps. If you didn't notice in Huttball speech, cheating is encouraged. Edited January 8, 2012 by Hambunctious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justdodd Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 As a powertech, I'll admit I'm guilty of this. Having said that, I would like to see it changed since its incredibly unfair... but downright hilarious. Players can't sit at their spawn point indefinitely though - if they do, they run the risk of being removed from the warzone as a deserter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djvapid Posted January 8, 2012 Author Share Posted January 8, 2012 Things like this can be funny. Are funny, in fact. But for a moment let's put aside the fact that a player is insta-killed by being pulled into the spawn point. The most damning part about this is that the ball is thrust back to the neutral zone despite the fact that it "passed" through the goal to their spawn point in the first place. If you ask me, if the ball goes through the goal, it's a score. Regardless of what happens to the ball carrier quickly following that movement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varlak Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Wouldn't call it an exploit but it should definatly be looked at and fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hambunctious Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 What part of "name calling, and cheating, is encouraged" do you not understand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanomancer Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) people who don think this is an exploit are either users of such exploit or brain dead. the other teams spawn point isnt a hazard bioware just didn't test enough and needs to make abilities not be able to be used there. Edited January 8, 2012 by Nanomancer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avindra Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Yeh I agree its not really an exploit but its been like this for months. If theyre going to change it then they might have to make the area a 'no cast' area ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djvapid Posted January 8, 2012 Author Share Posted January 8, 2012 What part of "name calling, and cheating, is encouraged" do you not understand? Yet another person who apparently cannot decipher between in-game story and out-of-game gameplay mechanics. Good job. Now. Exit stage right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JefferyClark Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) What part of "name calling, and cheating, is encouraged" do you not understand? cheating != exploiting a game mechanic The spawn area is insta-kill to prevent a small handfull of people using CC to keep people from getting beyond the shield/spawn point. Edited January 8, 2012 by JefferyClark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hambunctious Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 people who don think this is an exploit are either users of such exploit or brain dead. the other teams spawn point isnt a hazard bioware just didn't test enough and needs to make abilities not be able to be used there. Didn't test enough? The devs pvp'd with us...hello? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gohlar Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) Exploit Edited January 8, 2012 by Gohlar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lunabaguna Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Baron death mark tells everyone every time that cheating in huttball is encouraged. That said, an easy fix is to harpoon them down, cc them, knock them down, etc. if they can target you you can target them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malderak Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) Remove Exploit OP No, the more it's used the sooner it's fixed. Edited January 8, 2012 by Malderak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToliverGrey Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Baron death mark tells everyone every time that cheating in huttball is encouraged. That said, an easy fix is to harpoon them down, cc them, knock them down, etc. if they can target you you can target them Not an option for some classes. Tell me how to reach them as a Sith Marauder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dayshadow Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 A couple days ago, my team was thwarted from scoring in a Huttball match over a dozen times by the opposing team utilizing abilities like Harpoon. And I'm not talking about pulling us into fire pits, poison or off the ramp. They sat at their spawn point and right before we crossed the goal, they pulled us into their spawn, insta-killing us and returning the ball to the neutral zone without a point for our team. As you can tell, this summarily kept us from scoring the entire game. Would you say this is an exploit? That it is glaringly obvious that this shouldn't be allowed? If you do, you would actually be the person who is "in the wrong". One player in particular reported the problem in a ticket and a CSR responded that "Although the ability is not working as intended, it is not considered an exploit by Bioware." If I'm not mistaken, anything "not working as intended" is one of the clear definitions of what a bug/glitch is. Silly me. So since Bioware doesn't believe this is an exploited glitch, let's see what Bioware's consumers say. The people who give them their money. Are you for or against this sort of exploit? Comment below. Bioware saying it's not an exploit = We are lazy and don't feel like fixing it at the moment. It's an obvious exploit. All you have to do to stay in the safe zone is zigzag left to right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myrmexaw Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Any tactics is valid in huttball except kicking the ball because hutt don't have feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hambunctious Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 any tactics is valid in huttball except kicking the ball because hutt don't have feet. lol ^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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