Klarick Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Thank Gawd! Someone has finally designed an MMO with Gamers in mind. With the Voice Acted missions -- yes, even the side quest are voice acted, the grinding for levels is officially dead! Thank you SWTOR for killing this beast by making leveling fun, engaging, and very immersive. I actually look forward to leveling. Its no longer just a race to the highest level to begin the "real" game. In SWTOR the "real" game starts at level 1 with your very first mission and your very first dialogue decision! Awesome!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hightideuk Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) How is the grind dead? they have just hidden it with a voice acted story, you still need to kill x number of y, or travel to one person to speak to them then travel back to another to speak to them, or hack 3 terminals guarded by mobs at each point which is then a bonus mission of killing x number of that mob. Grind is still there just harder to see Edited January 8, 2012 by Hightideuk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corwingeorge Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 i like the grind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lormif Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Thank Gawd! Someone has finally designed an MMO with Gamers in mind. With the Voice Acted missions -- yes, even the side quest are voice acted, the grinding for levels is officially dead! Thank you SWTOR for killing this beast by making leveling fun, engaging, and very immersive. I actually look forward to leveling. Its no longer just a race to the highest level to begin the "real" game. In SWTOR the "real" game starts at level 1 with your very first mission and your very first dialogue decision! Awesome!!! The grind is still there, just the people who cant read not need to read the quests any more. Voice over does not remove the grind, you still have to go kill x rats, y snakes, and z bears, they are just named rakghoul, rakghoul, and rakgoul now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Die_Scream Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 I didn't know that grind meant kill x of y with no voice over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daemian Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 The funny thing is, the people who insist on grinding through levels to get to the end game are always going to feel like it's a grind, no matter how good the content is. The rest of us will have fun on the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYzMikey Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Play an alt of the same faction where 85%+ of the quests are the same and you'll rediscover the grind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raurth Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 The same grind, just hidden under the shiny veneer of voice acting. Kill 10 X is still Kill 10 X, regardless of if it is droids or boars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klarick Posted January 8, 2012 Author Share Posted January 8, 2012 If you are grinding in SWTOR you either dont know what grinding means, or you aren't playing SWTOR correctly. Yes, I said correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EwokLuvr Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) 5/5 Flesh Raiders killed. Updating... 5...4...3...2...1.. BONUS QUEST! 0/45 Flesh Raiders killed Welcome to your grind-free experience. Edited January 8, 2012 by EwokLuvr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hightideuk Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 If you are grinding in SWTOR you either dont know what grinding means, or you aren't playing SWTOR correctly. Yes, I said correctly. No your playing it with your eyes shut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corbanite Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) I assume by grind you mean boring repeatitive quests. The boredom doing the quests in other MMO's was because I could see no reason for doing anything than kill X rats.. Biowares vioce over have allowed me to perceive these quests in a much richer more entertaining way. It's like eating flavourless food and then adding salt and pepper makes the same food much more enjoyable. Vioce over gives the flavour I and many others needed so that the quests are no longer boring. Edited January 8, 2012 by corbanite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hambunctious Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) OP can't be serious. World quests are all grinds. They did put a little lipstick on those pigs, but they're still pigs. Edited January 8, 2012 by Hambunctious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady_Alyria Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 I don't think it's a grind for this reason, in most MMOs, leveling is the point, you watch you exp bar the entire time, you go to places that make your exp bar move the fastest. In SWTOR, the point is the game itself, I don't even think there is anything to do at 50. Not that I'm 50 yet, but it doesn't sound like it. I hardly look at my exp bar at all in this game. I don't care how fast/slow I'm gaining levels. I'm having fun watching my character's story develop. I no longer play til I get the next level, I play until I finish this part of the storyline. And this is the first MMO I've ever seen make that shift, it feels more like a single person RPG with a chat box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbbmmmlll Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 It's no different than any other MMO, just voice instead of text for the quests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyisrael Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 How is the grind dead? they have just hidden it with a voice acted story, you still need to kill x number of y, or travel to one person to speak to them then travel back to another to speak to them, or hack 3 terminals guarded by mobs at each point which is then a bonus mission of killing x number of that mob. Grind is still there just harder to see Wow u just answered your own question without even realizing it. Every video game is a gosh dang grind and a time sink. That's the point of them. But the better the game hides it the more fun and escape from daily life the player can derive from the game. At this point in time for MMO's star wars has done it. For once I don't feel like I'm grinding. I feel like I'm helping people out or making a difference. It is such a breath of fresh air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hambunctious Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) I don't think it's a grind for this reason, in most MMOs, leveling is the point, you watch you exp bar the entire time, you go to places that make your exp bar move the fastest. In SWTOR, the point is the game itself, I don't even think there is anything to do at 50. Not that I'm 50 yet, but it doesn't sound like it. I hardly look at my exp bar at all in this game. I don't care how fast/slow I'm gaining levels. I'm having fun watching my character's story develop. I no longer play til I get the next level, I play until I finish this part of the storyline. And this is the first MMO I've ever seen make that shift, it feels more like a single person RPG with a chat box. Voice acting on kill/gather/click X amount of anything does not give it a point, or make the quest giver look any less inept. Class stories are the ONLY worthwhile quests in the game, outside of the first 2 planets, and those are very few in comparison. Edited January 8, 2012 by Hambunctious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lormif Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 If you are grinding in SWTOR you either dont know what grinding means, or you aren't playing SWTOR correctly. Yes, I said correctly. actually you may be looking at a narrow definition of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shillen Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 I didn't know that grind meant kill x of y with no voice over. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raurth Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Wow u just answered your own question without even realizing it. Every video game is a gosh dang grind and a time sink. That's the point of them. But the better the game hides it the more fun and escape from daily life the player can derive from the game. At this point in time for MMO's star wars has done it. For once I don't feel like I'm grinding. I feel like I'm helping people out or making a difference. It is such a breath of fresh air. Please explain how killing 15 Flesh Raiders, then 45 Flesh Raiders, as part of a "Bonus Quest" that is not mentioned by a voice acted quest giver and automatically granted upon killing one of them, is "Not a grind". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltuvion Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 5/5 Flesh Raiders killed. Updating... 5...4...3...2...1.. BONUS QUEST! 0/45 Flesh Raiders killed Welcome to your grind-free experience. 5/5. /Thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyvahaerie Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Its really nice at the beginning, cause its something new. But with time you can peek behind that mask and see its the same Kill/Fetch/Talk to X/Y/Z quests like every other mmo. After a while it gets really annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordRelyks Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Thank Gawd! Someone has finally designed an MMO with Gamers in mind. With the Voice Acted missions -- yes, even the side quest are voice acted, the grinding for levels is officially dead! Thank you SWTOR for killing this beast by making leveling fun, engaging, and very immersive. I actually look forward to leveling. Its no longer just a race to the highest level to begin the "real" game. In SWTOR the "real" game starts at level 1 with your very first mission and your very first dialogue decision! Awesome!!! Troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyisrael Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Please explain how killing 15 Flesh Raiders, then 45 Flesh Raiders, as part of a "Bonus Quest" that is not mentioned by a voice acted quest giver and automatically granted upon killing one of them, is "Not a grind". its bonus either do it or don't. If you feel like its a grind then don't so you can avoid the grind. Seems pretty simple if you don't wanna break immersion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlattrick Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) 5/5 Flesh Raiders killed. Updating... 5...4...3...2...1.. BONUS QUEST! 0/45 Flesh Raiders killed Welcome to your grind-free experience. Yeah, they're bonus for a reason, as in you don't have to do them. Edited January 8, 2012 by Moitteva rude, disrespectful comments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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