TalkingDinosaur Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Seeing as it falls to pieces in less than a week of its creation I rather not. I mean seriously, the Empire and Republic put aside their differences temporarily to destroy Malgus' New Empire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthBandeth Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 (edited) Seeing as it falls to pieces in less than a week of its creation I rather not. I mean seriously, the Empire and Republic put aside their differences temporarily to destroy Malgus' New Empire. Because Malgus's New Empire was a greater threat. Given enough time he would have had an even greater stealth armada and nobody would have been able to stand against him. *Edit* Found that bit I saw on the star wars wiki about Malgus surviving, no way of confirming whether or not it's true though. "Malgus himself survived the defeat, but the fate of his new empire was sealed. Having made enemies of the Republic, the Empire, and the Emperor himself, Malgus was forced to flee into exile in an unknown sector of the galaxy. As soon as the upstarts were defeated, all of Malgus' hopes of creating another rebellion was crushed; the Republic and Empire were now firmly loyal to their respective commanders, and had the fear of being crushed should they ever betray their sides. Although Malgus' fate, along with his Empire's, was sealed." http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Malgus'_Sith_empire Edited October 9, 2012 by DarthBandeth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Because Malgus's New Empire was a greater threat. Given enough time he would have had an even greater stealth armada and nobody would have been able to stand against him. *Edit* Found that bit I saw on the star wars wiki about Malgus surviving, no way of confirming whether or not it's true though. "Malgus himself survived the defeat, but the fate of his new empire was sealed. Having made enemies of the Republic, the Empire, and the Emperor himself, Malgus was forced to flee into exile in an unknown sector of the galaxy. As soon as the upstarts were defeated, all of Malgus' hopes of creating another rebellion was crushed; the Republic and Empire were now firmly loyal to their respective commanders, and had the fear of being crushed should they ever betray their sides. Although Malgus' fate, along with his Empire's, was sealed." http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Malgus'_Sith_empire This is pure speculation, in a interview with Hall Hood, the lead writer, he confirmed that that is not canon - his fate remains unknown, this is just wishful thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthBandeth Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 (edited) This is pure speculation, in a interview with Hall Hood, the lead writer, he confirmed that that is not canon - his fate remains unknown, this is just wishful thinking. Did you even read my post? I didn't say it was true, I just said it was on the star wars wiki. Edited October 9, 2012 by DarthBandeth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ismercu Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Canon Empire stories are all the Darkside versions. Therefore they cannot give you a massive Lightside choice that will reshape everything (Like Putting Malgus in charge of the entire Empire), Massive changes have to be Neutral or Dark only (killing Baras is Neutral for example, becuase you kill him for two reasons, one to take his power (DS), two to save the Empire from him (LS). How do we know Empire characters are all Darkside canon? Because of how actions are viewed by other classes. Republic characters will become aware their new Supreme Canceller, because the canon BH kills him. Empire characters will pick up that Grathens wife and son are dead, because the canon SW slaughters them. This is wrong even if you do pick LS as a BH the chancellor will retire and you will kill Darth Tormen and a new chancellor will be elected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Did you even read my post? I didn't say it was true, I just said it was on the star wars wiki. I know, I'm just affirming that this is pure speculation - so everyone is aware. I expect he is coming back though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalkingDinosaur Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Because Malgus's New Empire was a greater threat. Given enough time he would have had an even greater stealth armada and nobody would have been able to stand against him. *Edit* Found that bit I saw on the star wars wiki about Malgus surviving, no way of confirming whether or not it's true though. "Malgus himself survived the defeat, but the fate of his new empire was sealed. Having made enemies of the Republic, the Empire, and the Emperor himself, Malgus was forced to flee into exile in an unknown sector of the galaxy. As soon as the upstarts were defeated, all of Malgus' hopes of creating another rebellion was crushed; the Republic and Empire were now firmly loyal to their respective commanders, and had the fear of being crushed should they ever betray their sides. Although Malgus' fate, along with his Empire's, was sealed." http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Malgus'_Sith_empire What is with Sith and getting thrown down pits and surviving? Think the Jedi should start thinking of better ways to handle these guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile_army Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 I would be his secret bounty hunter and hunt down the betrayed!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epicfear Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 I for one think it would have been an excellent mechanic where, if some people did join him, it would shift into partial pvp, where if you dont join him you have to fight him and any former party members that did. It would be funny if the tank and healer both joined malgus, because 2 dps stand no chance without support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daidarus Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 I think it would make sense for them to bring Malgus back when the Emporer's plans are known to the Empire. He could come in and help save the day. After that he could legitimately be back in power or at least in the story agian. "For the New Empire! For Emporer Malgus!" <- See how cool it would be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DinomyteHero Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I would have. For instance he was the bad *** in all of the cinematics. Its so sad that you have to kill him.So this makes him seem so weak compared to the cinematics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
errant_knight Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I suspect that the inability to join him has to do with where the story is going next. Perhaps we'll be able to join him later (if he survived), or perhaps we'll have the ability to pick up his banner and become a force of change ourselves.At the end of the third chapter, we're left with at least 3 very important characters whose exact conditions are unknown and others who eluded player characters. It remains to be seen what will happen. There's a whole lot of story left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird_of_Thunder Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 i'd join Malgus in a heartbeat. Racism is stupid, even for an enslaving, all-powerful galactic force Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAWUSS Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 My Darth Imperius was in agreement with him throughout the entire Ilum pre-heroic quest chain. To then be forced into striking him down felt somewhat... odd. Here I am agreeing with his views and all of a sudden when he acts on his beliefs he must die. (Though you can mention he's going about it the wrong way before facing off against him) At least you're able to bring it up with the people on the War Council at the end (even though it goes nowhere). Hopefully in future updates that whole incident can have some sort of lasting legacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zardac_the_Great Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 (edited) I would not have wanted to join Malgus' Empire, but If I'd been able to do what I wanted, my character would never have gotten the chance. I wanted to join Revan. Edited February 21, 2013 by Zardac_the_Great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubbleDncr Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Yea...pretty much every empire character I have has been confused about why she's fighting Malgus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allronix Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 A real tragedy, as he isn't am omnicidal nutcase like the Emperor. He has a better grasp of tactics than "we have reserves." He's not some racist fool, and is smart enough to extend an offer of participation to species other than Sith Pureblood and humans. He's got a marginal sense of honor, and he's actually more interested in making the Empire function than playing the mutually assured destruction garbage than the Dark Council seem to be caught in. Overall, I haven't rolled an Inquisitor yet (and maybe never will, judging from how little I like the Imperial side in general), but I already think an Inquisitor character of mine will die on that station defending his lord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lokdron Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 (edited) A real tragedy, as he isn't am omnicidal nutcase like the Emperor. He has a better grasp of tactics than "we have reserves." He's not some racist fool, and is smart enough to extend an offer of participation to species other than Sith Pureblood and humans. He's got a marginal sense of honor, and he's actually more interested in making the Empire function than playing the mutually assured destruction garbage than the Dark Council seem to be caught in. Overall, I haven't rolled an Inquisitor yet (and maybe never will, judging from how little I like the Imperial side in general), but I already think an Inquisitor character of mine will die on that station defending his lord. The thing is after the malgus event Darth Marr Kinda took up malgus's flag with trying to get more aliens into the empire. As malgus said even if he lives or dies the empire is going to change and currently going by lore and the books out now it is. Personally I think the reason they did not add the option to join him is because it would render our whole story moot if you think about it. I mean you built up all your power/fame and then you join the traitor and end up fighting the whole empire. Plus lets not forget maglus said those who wish to give up their old titles and all their other stuff is free to join him. Story wise you would never be allowed to the space dock and all the other planets. Edited March 6, 2013 by lokdron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koyaanisqat Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 (edited) The thing is after the malgus event Darth Marr Kinda took up malgus's flag with trying to get more aliens into the empire. As malgus said even if he lives or dies the empire is going to change and currently going by lore and the books out now it is. This is clarified further in that a Nautolan is promoted to Colonel and given the responsibility to reclaim Denova. Edited March 6, 2013 by Koyaanisqat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lokdron Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 This is clarified further in that a Nautolan is promoted to Colonel and given the responsibility to reclaim Denova. Wait what? Is this Nautolan with the empire? If thats the case thats awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideblaze Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Bioware could have had Satele randomly break in and we "Prove ourselves loyal" to Malgus by slaying her, or something like that. That way we still have a boss, and the roleplay would make more sense. The worst things in role playing games is when you are controlling YOUR character, not some pre-characterised dude like Cloud or something. This is YOUR guy being projected, So when there is an option that DOESN'T EVEN GET ACKNOWLEDGED (Like maybe a line "I will gladly serve you" then malgus just kind of quips "Far too late for that" then it would be okay. But to blatantly ignore a really good story point is, in my opinion a waste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredicusCaesar Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 I would have loved joining Malgus´s empire, when I did the Ilum quest line I got really sad because I couldn´t join him.Maybe in the future Darth Malgus return (event) in secret and you can help him:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzoorrzz Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 No matter what Malgus believed in, turning against the Empire was a mistake. Imperials need unity, not to fight each other because some minor ideological differences. Allegiance to the dark side is what matters. And he threw it away because of bunch of aliens, got himself killed and weakened the rest of Empire. There's nothing to praise him for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idunhavaname Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 (edited) I would have joined in a heartbeat. Crushes me everytime you reach that part where he announce "One of you vowed to join the new empire. But which one? Im certainly not telling". Y U DO DIZ BIOWARE? Edited May 9, 2013 by Idunhavaname Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostDrone Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 (edited) I would have joined in a heartbeat. Crushes me everytime you reach that part where he announce "One of you vowed to join the new empire. But which one? Im certainly not telling". Y U DO DIZ BIOWARE? Yes, i hate that tease. At first i assumed it was a clever hint at something larger, but then i quickly realized it was a stupid attempt to make Malgus seem deceptive towards the group. It would be nice if there could be a story arc somewhere longer down the line. In example; The Empire is struggling quite heavily again (Similar to their desperate state during the Makeb storyline) and they need a gigantic miracle to turn the tide. Malgus comes out of (obviously somehow explained) hiding and pulls the Empire out of desperation and back into the battlefields, with the help of his loyal alien allies. This act of somewhat blind heroism would be Malgus' final attempt to open the Empire's eyes before they doom themselves permanently. Because of how he showed the value and power of certain alien alliances, the Empire accepts him back under certain terms and requirements, along with his newly built alien armies. Then the two finally fuse back together into one, stronger and unified Empire. It sounds a bit too heroic for the Sith, i know. But it's the only acceptable solution i could think of that didn't involve just forcing down a "New Empire" faction out of nowhere. This way, we'd see smaller and bigger changes on the Fleet, uniform and future stories that indicate that substantial change did indeed happen within the Empire. Edited May 11, 2013 by GhostDrone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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