chainsawsamurai Posted January 11, 2012 Author Share Posted January 11, 2012 CP stands for a lot of things, and that is why Acronyms are stupid. If you must shorten it, call it Parakeet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kordine Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Interesting build. I'm 39 right now and fully in the ST tree and I've not been happy with it. I want to help my buddies with guard and not get melted yet I don't achieve that and my dps is down. The heat management isn't great either. Trying to decide between this and Pyro. Is it worth trying this before 48? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoE_TooLate Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 I think at this point I'm going to make my PVP set all DPS/Crit and my PVE DEF/***. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoobings Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 What about "The Keet"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodil_Liutn Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 (edited) ya I've got nothing Edited January 11, 2012 by Bodil_Liutn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLASSlFlED Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Would be nice to have a link to the build on the original post, 21/2/18 could be anything.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prunetracy Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 So I'm just gonna go on record and say that I don't think the Carolina Parakeet is a great name for this build. It's kind of a funny idea the first time you hear it, but it just doesn't make sense. The main problem with it is I can't imagine trying to explain to anyone who doesn't read this forum what the hell I'm talking about referring to the Carolina Parakeet build. You're immediately forced to redescribe the build anyway, merely wasting time. Another concern is what happens when BioWare rebalances the talent trees? What if the ST/Pyro hybrid build still works, but with a different point distribution. Now the name makes no sense whatsoever. I think it makes far more sense to name a build after its characteristics. ST/Pyro, while generic, is instantly understood at least. For a little more flare, you could call it the Rocketeer build (for Jet Charge), or the Hadron Supercollider (Prototype Particle Accelerator + Jet Charge (collider)). Just my thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoobings Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 How about "The Carolina Parakeet ST/Pyro Build." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rykke Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 I feel borderline OP as I learn more and more about this class and spec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoE_TooLate Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Can someone link the spec because some of what I'm seeing doesn't make since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ururururu Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 (edited) Dear enemies, Thanks for this build. It is rocking for me @ level 38 vanguard.. love it. Edited January 11, 2012 by ururururu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rykke Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Can someone link the spec because some of what I'm seeing doesn't make since. It's not that complicated, key talents are: -Jet Charge -Flame Shield -Superheated Rail -Prototype Particle Accelerator A lot of the rest are just preference points. My personal take on it. http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#301GRrbbMboZ0MZbIbbdh.1 From various threads gathered damage on Ion Gas Cylinder is moot so I skipped points in that. No Escape speaks for itself imo. Armor being also not as good due to the numerous damage types flying around in PvP is skimped over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DredlyLB Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Dear enemies, Thanks for this build. It is rocking for me @ level 38 vanguard.. love it. Does this mean some republic cowards will finally start playing PvP so we can finally stop playing Hutball over and over again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DredlyLB Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 It's not that complicated, key talents are: -Jet Charge -Flame Shield -Superheated Rail -Prototype Particle Accelerator A lot of the rest are just preference points. My personal take on it. http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#301GRrbbMboZ0MZbIbbdh.1 From various threads gathered damage on Ion Gas Cylinder is moot so I skipped points in that. No Escape speaks for itself imo. Armor being also not as good due to the numerous damage types flying around in PvP is skimped over. Personally I would put points into Re braced Armor and Resolve instead of the ion charge ones. a 3% damage increase across the board is pretty huge. While shields don't really do much, the armor does stop quite a few different damage types Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekai Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Dear enemies, Thanks for this build. It is rocking for me @ level 38 vanguard.. love it. To be fair... I made this whilst playing a Vanguard in beta. It was called the specialist build then since it dipped into both Specialist trees. They don't like that name for a BH though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rykke Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Personally I would put points into Re braced Armor and Resolve instead of the ion charge ones. a 3% damage increase across the board is pretty huge. While shields don't really do much, the armor does stop quite a few different damage types The points in ion is mainly for the snare which I find highly valuable in a PvP setting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montijin Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 This build is probably going to go extinct faster than the Carolina Parakeet. The changes they are making in 1.1b or 1.2 (not announced which) that change shielding to effect elemental, kinetic and force damage will more than likely make this build a superior dual spec: http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#301hMGrbMboMZrsMrobZo.1 So you might want to start thinking of some witty names for this one. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trungalung Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 This build is probably going to go extinct faster than the Carolina Parakeet. The changes they are making in 1.1b or 1.2 (not announced which) that change shielding to effect elemental, kinetic and force damage will more than likely make this build a superior dual spec: http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#301hMGrbMboMZrsMrobZo.1 So you might want to start thinking of some witty names for this one. lol Care to elaborate why it would go extinct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exphryl Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 This build is probably going to go extinct faster than the Carolina Parakeet. The changes they are making in 1.1b or 1.2 (not announced which) that change shielding to effect elemental, kinetic and force damage will more than likely make this build a superior dual spec: http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#301hMGrbMboMZrsMrobZo.1 So you might want to start thinking of some witty names for this one. lol A: Source B: This build is about utliity, heat management and decent damage with survivability. Secondly, you are only losing the 10% Shield Talent. You can still wear all that shiny Absorb/Shield armor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montijin Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Care to elaborate why it would go extinct? Because the PT/AP build is light years ahead in heat management it also provides more survivability and utility for pvp. You don't need 'filler' skills like unload that you have to use because you'll run up your heat too fast if you don't use them. Again, this is hypothetical and hasn't been tested that much--but, its likely to be the superior build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montijin Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 (edited) A: Source B: This build is about utliity, heat management and decent damage with survivability. Secondly, you are only losing the 10% Shield Talent. You can still wear all that shiny Absorb/Shield armor There is a thread about pvp on the PTR (ptr is 1.1 at the moment) and through testing people are reporting that in duels shield is now blocking other damage types. Edited January 11, 2012 by Montijin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trungalung Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 (edited) Damage wise, it's still behind parakeet. Heat wise, you only gain the free rocket punch while parakeet still has superheated rail (and Gyroscopic Jets). More survivability? I don't see that, at least with your build. Only thing I like with this build is the 6 sec Quell + Jet Charge combo. Edited January 12, 2012 by Trungalung Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoobings Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Because the PT/AP build is light years ahead in heat management it also provides more survivability and utility for pvp. You don't need 'filler' skills like unload that you have to use because you'll run up your heat too fast if you don't use them. Again, this is hypothetical and hasn't been tested that much--but, its likely to be the superior build. I disagree. Without the pyrotech suppliment I doubt your damage will be as high. However, I'm totally open to being proved wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoobings Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 It's not that complicated, key talents are: -Jet Charge -Flame Shield -Superheated Rail -Prototype Particle Accelerator A lot of the rest are just preference points. My personal take on it. http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#301GRrbbMboZ0MZbIbbdh.1 From various threads gathered damage on Ion Gas Cylinder is moot so I skipped points in that. No Escape speaks for itself imo. Armor being also not as good due to the numerous damage types flying around in PvP is skimped over. Why would you get the ion talents if you'll be using combustable? Or does that talent not require ion to be active to get the snare on rocket punch... because if that's the case I need to respec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trungalung Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Why would you get the ion talents if you'll be using combustable? Or does that talent not require ion to be active to get the snare on rocket punch... because if that's the case I need to respec Parakeet uses Ion as the main cylinder. We put points in CGC because we have to in order to reach Superheated Rail. In the words of original creator Dekai, we didn't "waste" the points. We "invested". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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