Amote Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 So my Trooper has usually followed the mission assignment to the letter, but his heart got to him this time, and he chose Jaxo over the prisoners (so unfair to have her begging on the line like that). Afterwards, in order to keep up appearances to Command, he lied to Garza and said that Jaxo and the fish man were all who could be saved. What I'm wondering is, who thinks that this incident could cause a huge controversy and hearings later on when Bioware expands the storyline? Do you think that this particular choice and coverup will be chosen by such a small portion of the Trooper playerbase that BW would see follow-up as a waste of resources? I mean, there are so many witnesses to the choice I made (that fish is a particularly ghastly loose end to keep in mind) that it would seem crazy that a single lie could remove any amount of responsibility. This is all obviously speculation, but I'm interested in knowing what you guys think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almarion Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 I did the decision to save Jaxo, but didn't lie and didn't do any flirt with her in the dialogues. Does someone know if that will affect negativelly my relation with Elara? I am topped in affection with her and we had the "kids talking" a while ago, but after my mission on a-77 I didn't got any more talkings from her; I am not done with chapter 3 though. Any enlightment on the issue would be appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevTech Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Havoc squad be damned I'll have children with her someday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amote Posted January 8, 2012 Author Share Posted January 8, 2012 I did the decision to save Jaxo, but didn't lie and didn't do any flirt with her in the dialogues. Does someone know if that will affect negativelly my relation with Elara? I am topped in affection with her and we had the "kids talking" a while ago, but after my mission on a-77 I didn't got any more talkings from her; I am not done with chapter 3 though. Any enlightment on the issue would be appreciated The "kids talk" is the last one at the moment. Your choice shouldn't affect any dialog until the game is expanded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeRune Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) This is one of these things that really shows how good the story actually is. I love the Trooper story as a whole, but this moment... brilliantly written. What a decision, one that kept me thinking about it for quite some time afterwards. But.. on to the spoiler: My trooper also follows the rules on 90% of the choices, exception being: Traitors, defectors and Imps.. But I'm really the model 'good guy/girl'. Then this mission comes along, not much to it at first.. save Jaxo and some 300 other prisoners, no problem.. But then the choice; you can't save all, it's either Jaxo or the 300 prisoners, what to do? If Jaxo had said something like:"leave me, save the others.." the decision would've been easier and I might have sacrificed her. But no.. Jaxo says something along the lines of:"please don't leave me here to die.." after that, I just couldn't leave her there. At that point friendship became more important than the lives of 300 randoms. Elara wasn't happy to say the least... So, from that decision on to the next. Tell Garza what happened or not? I chose to lie, never lied about a mission before but this time I did, told her; Jaxo, fishboy and me were the only ones to get out of the trap alive. (makes you think about if Mon Cals always fall into traps btw). So I made much of the same decisions as the OP; the thing with Elara is easily solved, the kids conversation is the last of her story I think, so no worries there. Lost affection is easily compensated with some gifts. So Elara is not the problem. Could and should this decision have an impact later in the game (expansion)? Would be brilliant if it did! (And Jaxo should be a companion for those that saved her!! ) Edited January 8, 2012 by JeRune Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xezkaiel Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 This is one of these things that really shows how good the story actually is. I love the Trooper story as a whole, but this moment... brilliantly written. What a decision, one that kept me thinking about it for quite some time afterwards. But.. on to the spoiler: My trooper also follows the rules on 90% of the choices, exception being: Traitors, defectors and Imps.. But I'm really the model 'good guy/girl'. Then this mission comes along, not much to it at first.. save Jaxo and some 300 other prisoners, no problem.. But then the choice; you can't save all, it's either Jaxo or the 300 prisoners, what to do? If Jaxo had said something like:"leave me, save the others.." the decision would've been easier and I might have sacrificed her. But no.. Jaxo says something along the lines of:"please don't leave me here to die.." after that, I just couldn't leave her there. At that point friendship became more important than the lives of 300 randoms. Elara wasn't happy to say the least... So, from that decision on to the next. Tell Garza what happened or not? I chose to lie, never lied about a mission before but this time I did, told her; Jaxo, fishboy and me were the only ones to get out of the trap alive. (makes you think about if Mon Cals always fall into traps btw). So I made much of the same decisions as the OP; the thing with Elara is easily solved, the kids conversation is the last of her story I think, so no worries there. Lost affection is easily compensated with some gifts. So Elara is not the problem. Could and should this decision have an impact later in the game (expansion)? Would be brilliant if it did! (And Jaxo should be a companion for those that saved her!! ) Can you imagine the god awful amounts of QQ if only ppl who saved Jaxo got her? BW would cater to the whiners and say something like "In a lore perspective Jaxo survives so everyone can have her!" =P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asfost Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Can you imagine the god awful amounts of QQ if only ppl who saved Jaxo got her? BW would cater to the whiners and say something like "In a lore perspective Jaxo survives so everyone can have her!" =P Those ppl, who didn't save her will get General Garza as companion instead. I think that this option will suit everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xezkaiel Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Those ppl, who didn't save her will get General Garza as companion instead. I think that this option will suit everyone Lol...that'd be a sight... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amote Posted January 8, 2012 Author Share Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) The way I see it, there could easily be a companion for each choice. For instance, BW could later bring along a prisoner/child of a prisoner that you saved through making the Light Side choice, and through your influence you inspired them to join the Republic military. He/she could have the exact same stats as Jaxo as a companion, so really the dialog and possible companion quests are all that would be different. The question is, do those differences alone make the idea too expensive? Edited January 8, 2012 by Amote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquil Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 The way I see it, there could easily be a companion for each choice. For instance, BW could later bring along a prisoner/child of a prisoner that you saved through making the Light Side choice, and through your influence you inspired them to join the Republic military. He/she could have the exact same stats as Jaxo as a companion, so really the dialog and possible companion quests are all that would be different. The question is, do those differences alone make the idea too expensive? The next hardest thing to that though is that if you had elara as a romance and already proposed marriage. How do you dump her *** and go after jaxo as a romance. Kind of an akward situation lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeRune Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Can you imagine the god awful amounts of QQ if only ppl who saved Jaxo got her? BW would cater to the whiners and say something like "In a lore perspective Jaxo survives so everyone can have her!" =P Haha consequences of your actions... If you didn't save her.. too bad. No you're right, would probably bring a lot of whining, but still; would be awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrothead Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 I have M1-4X as my primary companion and I use his character as a role model for my trooper- if 4X approves, we do it for the glory of the Republic. All of the choices 4X approves of are dark side choices nearly every time. This is something like what 4X said when Jaxo was pleading for her life. 4X:"If I may say so sir, the cost and time to train a special forces operator far outweighs the lives of 300 soldiers" (something like that) Jaxo: "Uh... yes.. I'm more valuable!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HubertoHub Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 I choose to save Jaxo and tell Gaza the truth about my actions. I sat there for almost a minute and thought about it before choosing. The pleading got me too. However I figured since I made the decision I had best own up to it. Garza was pissed and I lost more affection from Elara. I also decided to flirt with Jaxo, screw Elara for questioning me and putting my on the spot.... so I lost another 300 affection with her. Guess I'll be looking for some companion gifts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobinator Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Ive yet to get to this quest but honestly... I kinda recall in Dawn of War Retribution, the Imperial Guard General Castor just escaped a planet getting exterminatus'd and the sgtmaj. was pissed and confronted him. Castor then told Merrick a Guardsman's life is to die and I send them to where their death is most useful. So i'll be saving Jaxo, SIS agent kinda outweights a plain old soldier, not like we cant get more of em! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUXs Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 I have M1-4X as my primary companion and I use his character as a role model for my trooper- if 4X approves, we do it for the glory of the Republic. All of the choices 4X approves of are dark side choices nearly every time. This is something like what 4X said when Jaxo was pleading for her life. 4X:"If I may say so sir, the cost and time to train a special forces operator far outweighs the lives of 300 soldiers" (something like that) Jaxo: "Uh... yes.. I'm more valuable!" Interesting! I love 4X as a character - like the GOOD HK-47...but foolishly I had Elara along at the time. Now I regret that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobinator Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 So what exactly happens with companions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iret Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Yeah that choice to Let Jaxxo was a tough one. Like that guy said earlier, if she had said save the prisoners it would have been easier, but Jaxxo saying dont let me die was just heartbreaking. Can someone explain to me exacly what happens to her IF you save her? As for Elara, Im happy to say she now my wife, kinda annoying sometimes LOL and had she kept that blonde look, i would have stayed away from her. luckily that vendor on balmorra gave her a nice brown hair freckled look, far more appealing now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantang Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 For those of you wondering what happens to her if you save her you will get two mails from her. The first is her thanking you and saying she's taking time off to think about what happened. Next you get a mail saying she's under psychiatric evaluation. Basically you drover her nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodehouse Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Jorgan said it. 300 to 1 isn't even a contest. Sacrifice is the life we lead, soldiers. If you aren't prepared to make it, I'm not sure why you chose this career path. Comms might be better suited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kozor Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 I find it funny how people would save 1 person over 300 other people just because they like her personally. /facepalm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParagonOne Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 what happens when you flirt with her? flirting after the death of 300 people didn't seem like a great idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevTrando Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Save Jaxo = Get Jaxo Don't save Jaxo = Get Jonas Balker ^ How it would probably be. They're both the same exact class and equally integrated into the trooper story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RokarooJack Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 I have made one Dark Side decision the entire time I have played this game. That decision was to save Jaxo. To hell with Garza! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suezen Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Jorgan said it. 300 to 1 isn't even a contest.. Agreed. I begged her forgiveness before giving the command that would kill her. It was gut-wrenching but I made sure that Rakton paid for it later. Would have been nice if there were a "this one's for Jaxo" comment when I shot him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nhala Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Jorgan said it. 300 to 1 isn't even a contest. Sacrifice is the life we lead, soldiers. If you aren't prepared to make it, I'm not sure why you chose this career path. Comms might be better suited. This. I felt bad, but I couldn't in good conscience sacrifice 300 soldiers to save one person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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