DigitalDreamz Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 6/10 right now ability delay and warzone performance ( Low FPS) are keeping me from enjoying it as much as i want to *it's pretty fun when the only WZ you can kinda play in is huttball..* since this is a MMO i expect alot of changes and fixs is in the future so till then this is staying at a 6. Same here, ability delay and low fps in warzones. Weird cause if I'm on the Republic or Imperial Fleet I'll get 60 fps with tons of people around. Get into a warzone and boom it drops to less than half. 4/10 here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popcorned Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 2/10 dont even care for the new ilum stuff in 1.1 looking forward to spending $60 bucks on next mmo over and over and over and.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baredevil Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) 2/10 By far the most imbalanced PvP I have experienced among swtor, rift and wow. I thought r8 players were too op in rift but at least you were up against a similar level . PvP is completely unplayable for the first half of a character. I'm a sith jugg and I think I picked the the most usless class in the game right now. Edited January 8, 2012 by Baredevil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madprophetus Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Before geared 50s entered the scene: 8/10 (only 8 because empire just dominates on Shien and we're playing republic there) After geared 50s entered the scene: -192678903275896/10. PVP in this game is absolutely worthless unless you're 50 now. From the company that INVENTED tiered battlegrounds, I expect more. This is really awfully implemented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdLogic Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 7/10 take out the bugs 8/10, fix all the balance issues 9/10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slagathar Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 What pvp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheErebUs Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 8/10. It's fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrthommesen Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 I give it a 3 why? 1. Not being able to choose my own warzone2. Loosing 7/10 games i play about 10 games a day and this is my usual stat3. Champion Bag lotto so ************ lame4. Open world pvp ? where is it ? Met like 5 people on my way to lvl 505. Illum - Getting yelled at by my own faction for pvping cause they just want that damn bag6. Balance ?7. Bugged to hell finally win a game and i go to claim my bag.. Oh thats right that win didnt count... There are more bugs but i just lost for the fifth time in a row so im raging.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrShazzam Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 5/10 50s really need a separate bracket. Before I was 50 I was tired of getting rolled by 50s, now that I'm 50, I'm tired of just facestomping lower levels. The gear bag lotto is pretty ridiculous. Players should be awarded for effort/skill/commitment whatever, anything besides luck really. Worst of all, Ilium is a joke. The only place in the game I see pubs and imps working together is the pvp zone. People legitimately get upset if you attack the other faction in Ilium. Honestly, on my server the only way to ever get the daily done is to LET the other faction cap. The faction imbalance is strong enough that if imps actually decided to pvp in Ilium, the republic wouldn't set foot in Ilium and neither faction would ever get the daily done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Cliche Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 8.7 / 10.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sataren Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Fix ability lag! Fix FPS issues! Balance classes. Create a competitive arena. Make a great world PvP zone. (Think that sunwell isle thing from BC WoW, daily quests, etc.) 3.5/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonSoot Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 6... It's an MMORPG; if you want PVP hardcore play MOBAs or FPSs... The days of DAOC etc. are over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramurdyne Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 6... It's an MMORPG; if you want PVP hardcore play MOBAs or FPSs... The days of DAOC etc. are over. You know what? **** you just **** you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignorant Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 rofl you guys are a bunch of complaining spoiled wow kids. I say wow because most of the complaints are lack of balance and lack of maps as there is only 3. PvP balances at 50 so unless your 50 quit complaining, some classes bloom sooner then others. 3 maps is more then alot of other mmos had at launch so be grateful we have at least something. PvP is good the way it is right now, aside from the lag and bugs but it is nothing that they cant fix with time. Be patient and give them time to fix it. Everyone complains about a game that has been out for what 3 weeks now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightAndShade Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 2/10 Class balance is satisfactory. Don't mind the random PvP games, but there sure is a lot of Hutball (which I suspect I will grow tired of down the track). I'm content with the Champ bag Lotto Haven't tried Illum. Great map layouts/concepts Wouldn't mind bigger matches (i.e. 10-20 v 10-20, not 8v8) 50 bracket is necessary but we all know its coming so I'm pretty relaxed. Overall, quite good... BUT The FPS issues and the ability delay issues are simply game breaking for me. Fix those two things and I would rate PvP, all things considered a 9/10. And that is pretty high for a game that has just launched. Get onto it BioWare, Please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cebby Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 im fifty(heal spec sorc with no champ gear).. oops but not biochem.. so its imbalanced. geared and buffed hippys critting fer 8k? 3 people can dimantle 8 in about 20 secs. feel like a counter strike knife fight and those with biochem have hacks. 7 years in daoc.. wicked.. hated leaving. 3 years in war hammer pvp.. they couldn't keep people interested with pvp alone 3 weeks of swtor and i doubt ill ever be able to compete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gornish Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) I would say about a 3/10 1. Complete imbalance in number of cc's available to various classes. Right now Force users rule the cc category. In games where cc/gimmick is heavy *cough* Huttball *cough* generally teams with more Force users is going to win (Unless of course they are FMC (Free Mercenary Commendations) or Feral Uprising. 2. The current way Resolve functions. With the plethora of cc's available Resolve quickly fills little to no purpose. Especially, when you can still be knocked back or pulled with a full resolve bar up. Resolve needs to be standardized for -all- forms of cc onto 1 resolve bar. Adjust the resolve that cc's give so that 3 or 4 cc's will fill up the bar. 3. Huttball - This game is terrible. This game has very little to do with any sort of pvp skill/ability and relies completely on gimmicks. Whoever designed this game should be fired, shot, and have their fingers chopped off so they can never touch pvp again. 4. Ilum - Open world pvp that was promised is for the most part people just sitting and trading base points. It suffers the same issues that WAR did in that points are flipped back and forth since there is no benefit to actually killing enemy players. 5. FFA Zone - No one goes there. There is no incentive to go there. It is on Tatooine... nobody goes there. 6. You can't queue with more than 4 people. Sometimes your 4 man team ends up on opposite sides. Which leads into... 7. WZ Team balance issues. Multiple matches where one team has more than 8 players. While the other team has less then the allotted number of players. The system ends up giving one side bonus players for no reason. 8. WZ crash to character select bug or desktop crash bug. 9. Disparity between Melee and ranged damage. Right now except for the Powertech Fire spec, and Operative's 5k+ backstab Melee are really forced into 1 spec and are pretty lackluster. 10. Plethora of individual class issues... to many to address here. Edit: Forget to mention little/low commendations for healers in WZ. I've healed in pvp for a long time and enjoy it. However, like most games SW:TOR gives healers very little way to merit commendations past the first 4 or 5. Where as the Sorc/Op/etc I am following around nets an avg of 9+ every game. Edited January 8, 2012 by Gornish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cytox Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 0 Can developers please stop thinking that PvP instance grinding is a good idea? Grinding the same 3 instances for 15 minute intervals is terrible and boring by the 5th hour, let alone days or months later. Also, I would sacrifice a goat or a lesser guildie if the lag, FPS, ability delay, and 5 minute load screens could be fixed (don't say hardware, I see plenty of complaints about the same thing from people w/ a top processor/ vid card / 8-16gb of RAM). Ilum may be the most poorly thought out "PvP Zone" I've ever seen. Let's make a map where the entire point is to run around the map and fire missiles at things. There's no real capture or control mechanism, everything is just there to be chain capped over and over. Making dailies about kills or a resource at one point isn't going to change the fact that it's an isolated ghetto that they're trying to hide PvP players in and that there really isn't much to do in there. Then there's the resolve system. If you time it right you can cram 3 full length stuns in before triggering a white bar. The balance of PvP right now is who can bring the most stuns. There isn't any strategy, just chain stun until the target is dead or has a white bar, then wait for the rapid decay on immunity, rinse and repeat. And finally, there's the gear grind. Another game where crafting anything other than pots is useless at 50. Where you're forced to grind the instances to maximize the chances of getting your gear faster. And it's mandatory since the gear has a ridiculous PvP stat (defense and offense). Whatever happened to suiting up once or twice once you hit the level cap and relying on skill. Or having an alternative PvP skill system for as you rank up, rather than a gear grind. But I guess that would require a meaningful and well thought out PvP system, not some mini-game slapped on so you can advertise that the game has PvP. I didn't expect much from the game's PvP, but this has managed to be worse. And the problems are built into the core of the game, so there won't be any major improvements in the near future. Maybe enough to raise it to a 2 or 3. I think BioWare would have been better off not including PvP since it's more of a single player game anyway, or at least they shouldn't have attempted to market the game as being viable for PvP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sauna Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 2/10, no rewards for killing players in world pvp is so lame. Instanced pvp is boring *** ****. Grind grind grind...zzzz. When are devs gonna incorporate their beloved roleplaying story elements to the actual pvp.Look at DAoC and get a grip already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mermilionne Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 It feels like kindergarten football. -10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravvnos Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 1/10...balance the classes out!!!! that is what the damn beta was for. The fact that the Pub shadow can use "tumult" in pvp while sins can't is ridiculous. 2-3 people on a commando and still survives is ridiculous...... I am noticing an overall lack in balance with classes between factions....start there 1st, then go about individual class balance, really BW?! The resolve system is CRAP....snares should be included in resolve and make it ACTUALLY WORK. a level 20 smuggler should not be able to stun lock a lvl 50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breach Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Honest truth i love it. The only time i do not enjoy it is when i'm taken out by a highly geared 50 who can't die because of the expertise. Other than that i'd give it an 8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro_Chrome Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 7/10 Hutt ball is the greatest pvp game ever with a million ways to make it into an e sport, the resolve bar does need to be more reactive to stuns, i like the concept better than diminishing returns concepts but it does not activate fast enough nor does it stay full long enough... Level 50s with expertise, they definitely need to be removed from the normal q...as a lvl 50 myself i have seen an insane advantage over non 50s, and since i do not have even half of my gear yet that is pretty broken as far as lag or the latency on moves, i have seen little to none, however i do have a fairly top end system. over all people complaining about lack of people in Illum need to wait about 4 more weeks so the rest of the population can arrive at 50 those of us with no lives need to chill out and relax and as far as people calling it a grind...if it is a grind to you do something else... i pvp for fun, everything else is a bonus, when the game stops being fun for you then it is time to leave. Grind is doing the same thing over and over and not enjoying it ... if you dont enjoy it then dont do it. take a breath, relax and you will find that the gear will come slower but it will still come and you may enjoy it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Universalchild Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 9 I'm loving pvp in this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norr Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 -1 for item bags-1 for non-mod pvp gear-5 for unplayable framerate-3 for mass clicking system lockup thingy So zero. gj bioware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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