Individual Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 (edited) WAAAAAAAY op. Two of them can destroy a team in pvp. Their burst dmg is ridiculous. On top of that, if you manage to survive the initail blow and get them pushed back and start wailing on em, they just use an escape ability. Come on already, please nerf them. I have 15k health, heavy armor, and pvp gear. My life gets drained in only 2-3 seconds from these guys. Also, how many stuns, knockdowns, ect do they need coming out of clock? I don't care how much dmg they do in pve, but they seriously need an ajustment in pvp. Edited January 7, 2012 by Individual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syas Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 WAAAAAAAY op. Two of them can destroy a team in pvp. Their burst dmg is ridiculous. On top of that, if you manage to survive the initail blow and get them pushed back and start wailing on em, they just use an escape ability. Come on already, please nerf them. I have 15k health, heavy armor, and pvp gear. My life gets drained in only 2-3 seconds from these guys. Also, how many stuns, knockdowns, ect do they need coming out of clock? I don't care how much dmg they do in pve, but they seriously need an ajustment in pvp. Clearly they are OP, because the alternative is you suck at PVP, and we both know that is impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anya_Halberd Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Clearly they are OP, because the alternative is you suck at PVP, and we both know that is impossible. Nothing is unpossible! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Individual Posted January 7, 2012 Author Share Posted January 7, 2012 Clearly they are OP, because the alternative is you suck at PVP, and we both know that is impossible. Ya, because you say so troll? Just doesn't take a genius to figure out they always get top dmg and kills in every pvp match. Go troll elsewhere. I must suck eventhough you don't know my toon, or played againt me.... Hmmm mmmm your absolutly right, what was I thinking by posting this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anya_Halberd Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Ya, because you say so troll? Just doesn't take a genius to figure out they always get top dmg and kills in every pvp match. Go troll elsewhere. I must suck eventhough you don't know my toon, or played againt me.... Hmmm mmmm your absolutly right, what was I thinking by posting this thread. Instead of just crying for nerfs, why not explain how to balance them in PvP without screwing them in PvE? Also, explain how they come out of clock. Do they break time doing this? Stephen Hawking must hate Smugglers and Ops too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoMbY Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Please, nerf anyone and anything but me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Gao_Gao Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 nerf everyone but CE edition buyers. you are all peasants anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gehoornde Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Nothing to see here. l2p issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezyfb Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Yes nerf those smuggler scum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anya_Halberd Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Dear OP, After much deliberation it has been decided that if Scoundrels and Operatives coming out of clock and doing major burst damage is the issue, you should stop wearing a watch. Signed,Anya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xezkaiel Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Yes...they hit like a derailed train...but thats how theyre SUPPOSED to work. 1v1 is the ONLY way they can fight (they try to attack a group of 2 theyre boned quick...) Then even 1v1 they HAVE to bring you down in their quick blasts within a 5 second timeframe or you will likely turn around and eat their face with a spork. Yea they are serious pansies for getting to vanish and run away when their hit and run attempt fails, but again, thats how they are MEANT to be played. Every class has their strong points =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilford Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Come one trollolololios. We all know the class is broken. No class in the game should 100% someone in the opening 3 seconds leaving stealth. An operative can 100% a vanguard tank before he stands up from the initial knockdown when the tank is wearing full champion pvp gear... Working as intended? But the truth of the matter is as game breaking as the scoundrel and operative are it pales in comparison to how broken their engine is with the ability delay for all classes. I'm actually happy they won't have it fixed before the end of everyones free month. Watching new MMOs fail because they promised the world and couldn't deliver makes me smile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Individual Posted January 7, 2012 Author Share Posted January 7, 2012 Instead of just crying for nerfs, why not explain how to balance them in PvP without screwing them in PvE? Also, explain how they come out of clock. Do they break time doing this? Stephen Hawking must hate Smugglers and Ops too. tone down the burst dmg so we at least have a fighting chance. I don't care if they hit hard. Either that or get rid of the knock down crap and give them one stun. I can break away from the knockdown, but then I get stunned. Not even worth using the cooldowns at this point against them. Maybe give them light armor instead if they go covert instead of medium? I don't know, just something other then what they are now. From what other people say, once they use their cooldowns, they can't do anything for a little while. If that's true, just tone down that initial burst dmg and give them a few other abilities that do decent dmg so they can hang in the fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaGicBush Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 (edited) Here we go again, nerf crying time apparently. They are fine, some other classes could use tweaks but I really hope Bioware does not nerf any class.. just bring them all up to speed. Honestly though I have way more trouble against other classes than the smugglers, and neither really have that much CC at all compared to the other classes, which was one of your complaints. But the truth of the matter is as game breaking as the scoundrel and operative are it pales in comparison to how broken their engine is with the ability delay for all classes. I'm actually happy they won't have it fixed before the end of everyones free month. Watching new MMOs fail because they promised the world and couldn't deliver makes me smile. You appear to be a sadist, why would you want any game to fail that makes no sense at all? Edited January 7, 2012 by MaGicBush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobaFurz Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 (edited) WAAAAAAAY op. Two of them can destroy a team in pvp. Their burst dmg is ridiculous. On top of that, if you manage to survive the initail blow and get them pushed back and start wailing on em, they just use an escape ability. Come on already, please nerf them. I have 15k health, heavy armor, and pvp gear. My life gets drained in only 2-3 seconds from these guys. Also, how many stuns, knockdowns, ect do they need coming out of clock? I don't care how much dmg they do in pve, but they seriously need an ajustment in pvp. Are you one of these here playing like a noo... uh pro ? And here screen with damage, they cc you and later you dead in 2 seconds: Here 3.7k+3.7k in 1 second: http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t..._18_586326.jpg here 6k and later 3.7k by i can not scren the first damage: http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t..._31_306031.jpg What a pro not having up his bubble, your bubble skill on the first screenshot was not even on Cooldown....hope you did learn your lesson. With your bubble up you would absorb a lot of the incomming dmg. People complain so much but dont know how to play their class in pvp at lvl 50. Your bubble is your life saver and one of the most important skill, use it always if you are in a hostile region. Maybe this is your first mmorpg or first light armor "Mage" character you play, but in other mmorps i.e. WoW, running around without your bubble is a deadly high risk...same in this game. Edited January 7, 2012 by BobaFurz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Individual Posted January 7, 2012 Author Share Posted January 7, 2012 Here we go again, nerf crying time apparently. They are fine, some other classes could use tweaks but I really hope Bioware does not nerf any class.. just bring them all up to speed. Honestly though I have way more trouble against other classes than the smugglers, and neither really have that much CC at all compared to the other classes, which was one of your complaints. Probably because you're an agent, smuggler, or assasian yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaGicBush Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 (edited) Probably because you're an agent, smuggler, or assasian yourself. I am a sniper, which does classify as agent. But I seem to get away from them easily in a wz, just stun them with my 4 second debilitate and run . Edited January 7, 2012 by MaGicBush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidacid Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 any player who beats me is obviously playing an OP class or cheating... nerf them all (except me and my class) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddecay Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Nerf rogues!!! Um.... oops. Wrong game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anya_Halberd Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 any player who beats me is obviously playing an OP class or cheating... nerf them all (except me and my class) But what if you are that class as well? Who do we nerf then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Individual Posted January 7, 2012 Author Share Posted January 7, 2012 any player who beats me is obviously playing an OP class or cheating... nerf them all (except me and my class) You could post reason why they shouldn't be nerfed instead of trying to troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captncrom Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Yes...they hit like a derailed train...but thats how theyre SUPPOSED to work. 1v1 is the ONLY way they can fight (they try to attack a group of 2 theyre boned quick...) Then even 1v1 they HAVE to bring you down in their quick blasts within a 5 second timeframe or you will likely turn around and eat their face with a spork. Yea they are serious pansies for getting to vanish and run away when their hit and run attempt fails, but again, thats how they are MEANT to be played. Every class has their strong points =) so what your saying is, **Individual** sucks at pvp...roger that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fellfromgrace Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 I love how people always say learn to play or you must suck at pvp. It really doesn't matter what class you play as or what class you are fighting. You have 1 CC breaker and most classes have about 25 thousand cc's. The ONLY reason PvP is worth playing right now is if you're tired of the quest grind and want some xp in other ways. Yes I do like the game btw, and NO I'm not going back to wow. Just because I think PvP is utter trash right now does not mean I hate this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidacid Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 But what if you are that class as well? Who do we nerf then? that's why I said "or they cheat" ... if they are the same class as me and beat me they must be cheating in some way so ban them NOW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scryer Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Hey, this is Scissors, please nerf Rock, Paper is fine! /thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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