Kashaan Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 The queues went down because: A) People switched to less crowded servers and B) Bioware increased caps on servers. Anyone who's using queues as an indication of sub loss is a complete and utter moron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daeborn Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 This game is losing subs. You should know, you're and expert and losing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethality Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Every MMO loses subs after it launches, it's inevitable."That other game" did and now look at it, it has 11 million subscriptions. Making the game is the first hurdle, winning back your customers is the next. Actually, WoW has never lost subs (until recently.) It started at 0 and went up until peaking at 12,000,000 or so. But there's no way to tell what's happening with TOR until BioWare releases another press release. If they do release one, it's good news. If we don't see another one, not good news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daeborn Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Yea, but i think most of the guys that say they will cancel or say they got banned are like u... Yep notafanboy is a known exploiter. How do we know? That's all he cried about yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seigyoku Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 This game is losing subs. Can I hug you? or some kinda quote I can put in my signature? You've become a sort of guy-in-a-Mickey-Mouse-costume on these forums; you're always there, waving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barracudastr Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Even if the game lowered to only 1000 subscribers I would still be playing. I love the game. They fixed pretty much every bug that I was noticing/was actually a major problem. Sorry if people are too dumb to realize that most of the bugs in this game are not "major" or "game-breaking" in any way shape or form. They have not fixed several bugs that prevent your class's story form progressing... pretty sure thats a major bug bud. Pretty sure having no high res textures in the game is a major bug. Pretty sure the ability delay and skills not syncing is a major bug if not gamebreaking for hardcore pve/pvp players. There are many others just because your not affected or dont notice means absoultly nothing at all and gives you no right to call people with real problems in game dumb. You sir are ignorant and need to stop posting dribble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kashaan Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Actually, WoW has never lost subs (until recently.) It started at 0 and went up until peaking at 12,000,000 or so. But there's no way to tell what's happening with TOR until BioWare releases another press release. If they do release one, it's good news. If we don't see another one, not good news. WoW fanboy, huh? For your information, there was a ton of flux with their population before they opened in China. Without China, WoW wouldn't be nearly as successful as they claim it is. Hell, they're down to 1-3 million subs in the entire Western market (and that's assuming we believe what they tell us). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandrax Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 This game is losing subs. Why would anyone believe a word you say when it has already been proved that you are a liar? For those that didn't see it... http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=1207977#edit1207977 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justwipeit Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 1) Holiday break is over2) Bioware probably increased caps3) They fixed a few bugs that allowed people to avoid the AFK logout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthAgonny Posted January 6, 2012 Author Share Posted January 6, 2012 I feel a bug in the air... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borderlad Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Sorry I missed that part. Can you please point to where I said TOR lost 50% of their subs? I just shared an observation without any analysis of any kind. AND even stated it was ONE observation and a small sample. This type of response is what makes this the single worse forum community of any MMO I have ever played. Don't know which MMO's you've played, but this community shows the exact same levels of respect, maturity, and thoughtfulness as the ones I've seen: SWG, VSOH, WOW, and RIFT. -Note, I'm not saying that's a good thing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xVexillex Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 WoW fanboy, huh? For your information, there was a ton of flux with their population before they opened in China. Without China, WoW wouldn't be nearly as successful as they claim it is. Hell, they're down to 1-3 million subs in the entire Western market (and that's assuming we believe what they tell us). Exactly, Wow has been in a steady decline for over 2 years on the NA/EU servers, Blizz just pads the numbers by counting china subs... which dont work the same way western subs do. anyone who thinks WoW hasnt been dying in NA/EU the past 2 years lives in a fantasy land Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthAgonny Posted January 6, 2012 Author Share Posted January 6, 2012 (edited) exactly, wow has been in a steady decline for over 2 years on the na/eu servers, blizz just pads the numbers by counting china subs... Which dont work the same way western subs do. Anyone who thinks wow hasnt been dying in na/eu the past 2 years lives in Azeroth fix'd:D Edited January 6, 2012 by DarthAgonny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zinny Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 (edited) This game is losing subs. It has peaked at 350,000 players at one time which is extremely high for a launch. You don't know what you're saying. Also, ALL MMO's take a hit after the first month, it matters what that hit is. Edited January 6, 2012 by Zinny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthAgonny Posted January 6, 2012 Author Share Posted January 6, 2012 notafanboi was a fanboi then he got banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHPer Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 People are still using the 30 days they got from buying the game, why should numbers be dropping ? Give it a month and lets see how numbers look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackwater Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 (edited) Holidays ending doesn't cause a games servers to go from 16 full to 2 full in one week. Edited January 6, 2012 by Blackwater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlacke Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Holidays ending doesn't cause a games servers to go from 16 full to 2 full in one week. It's not because people left, it is because Bioware probably increased server population caps in order to lower queue times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FSA_shadow Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Holidays ending doesn't cause a games servers to go from 16 full to 2 full in one week. Just lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeMonger Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 All I know is that while levelling my alt I noticed that the pops on the first two servers are higher than I've ever seen them by at least 25%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeMonger Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Holidays ending doesn't cause a games servers to go from 16 full to 2 full in one week. There are MORE PEOPLE on the servers. They increased capacity by adding a third planet instance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solidkjames Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 I would think you would've learned to keep your mouth shut around here by now, after Stephen Reid pwned you. That's just it, 99% of these trolls have more than 1 account. I bet this guy LOVES this game to no end but as a small child things happened to him that killed any chance of him ever having social skills. So he goes into the forums of a game he plays and makes up lies to draw attention to himself. Nofanboy is the epitome of all troll posters in the United States, they are liars. I have never in my life seen a Dev BUST someone's *** like he did this trolls, all time forum post in the history of MMO's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strader Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Some people will stay and some people will go, its that simple, the question is how many? I for one am staying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amnie Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 it can be determined how many subs this game actually loses in february... of course more than enough people already cancelled their sub by now (meaning they never let it actually start, but figured they won't be playing after the free 30 days...) I'm also fairly sure BW expects exactly that to happen. they also don't expect all too many people to pick up the game within these 30 days, because the usual mmo player either wants to start a game right from the start - or wait a bit to figure out if it's their game (for whatever reason)... that's how I see it, anyway I think both it ridiculous, honestly... so far this game is neither a success nor a failure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilla Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 I don't know if there are more or less people, but one thing to remember is that the number you see at the top of your screen isn't the number of people on the server--it's the number of people in your immediate area (not sure if it's planet or region or what it is). Since people level at different paces, people are now more spread out. At the beginning, we were all in the starter zones. Some are still in the starter zones, some are in the middle somewhere, and a few are even at "end game." You also need to remember that each planet has more than one "instance." When I join a group, sometime I have to reload to be in the same area as the rest of the group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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