I wont... I still like the game and honestly don't wanna play any other of the MMOs out. Also, with all the screen shots and videos being posted I'm yet to see one that documents the is insanely fast increase in valor. I'm waiting to be able to watch a video and clearly see someone just flying through levels in Ilum. Until then it's hard not to think that this is all just trolling that got way out of control and everyone just believed what others were saying and cancelling without actual proof of any of it.

Carebear fest aka Ilum pre 1.1 was horrible and was NOT pvp at all ... this definitely wasn't the fix they needed at all. But something needs to be done to make Ilum more about kills and less about objectives.

Omg, I have to do a little bit more pvp (which I find enjoyable) to earn the things I'm working towards... omg they are not given away now.

Ever hear the phrase "one bad apple spoils the bunch"? There is a reason that saying is around... Of course only grandmas use it, but whatev.

Haha what? Wow, overgeneralization lol.

I assume you also Unsubbed to WoW after the first month? After all, it was far worse.

Have the people that are "jerry mcguire" freaking out and cancelling actually logged in and witnessed turret farming? I'm not saying there are not issues, I just think it's foolish if people are cancelling off something they purely read online...

Only thing that should be giving valor is killing players ... capping objectives should give a bonus to said valor. PVP qeust should be focused on killing players (um, pvp?) and nothing else. Turrets and other non-player npcs giving valor is just plain dumb.

They just need to consolidate light pop servers, I know it's a PR nightmare, but honestly I think most MMOs launch with WAY too many servers thinking the world is going to come play, they need to be more realistic and let the servers get more populated. I rather a little bit of a cue time then low pop servers having crazy faction imbalances.

So you are saying that you aren't farming valor? just the players spawning in? Never did I think that I would say this, but at least the guards in WoW would prevent such a situation... and I hate the guards in WoW.

Missed that in the patch notes and haven't been in game yet ... I work (well, sometimes lol)

Yeah you get valor for pvp kills, just no way to tell because it doesn't tell you in your chat log.

Hotfix needed NOW! ... but another question, why don't the repubs just do the same thing? lol

I'm confused, why are killing turrets even giving valor? Killing players should be it, or holding objectives + killing players... killing static objects is just retarded. They should hot fix this ASAP.

Hitting 50 tomorrow and can't wait! Now more balanced pvp ... awesome.

Sound familiar.... to every Sorc I've ever pvped against. Force lightning spam much? If you're a sorc complaining about Sages, you r not gud.

/facepalm /sigh /endthread

My beef is every class having every kind of cc ... doesn't make sense and is stupid.

Thanks and I'm totally cool with 1v1 possibly getting edged out by someone in max gear ... at least you're not getting your face mashed in. So in a WZ that "edge" would be less evident.

I don't think CC minus knock backs and snares should be allowed in pvp ... it ruins the experience and it would make actual combat more of the focus instead of who can CC the most and win.

I have a legit question ... what's the difference realistically between someone in Champ gear and someone in Battlemaster? Will Battlemaster absolutely steamroll the Champ? The reason I ask is because right now there is no bracket system and you have a bunch of people (more by the minute) getting pvp gear going against people in greens / blues/ low level gear that are still leveling. This alone is going to give the perception of gear imbalance, how pvp gear grind is a horrible idea and pvp gear will ruin pvp, etc. But one day the majority of the population will be 50 .. .and if everyone has some pvp gear, won't that balance out the "gear difference" and make it a little bit more about skill? IMO gear discrepancy is more so about the lvl gaps in pvp more than the actual gear. Am I wrong with this thinking?

They already stated they are making daily and weekly quests on Ilum include kills as well as objectives. That will force combat. It's so sad that they have to "force combat" in a pvp MMO, but at least they'll do it.

OMG it's been a month everyone FREAK OUT!!! lol, see ya homie. You my friend are the poster child for what is wrong with today's MMOs.

100% disagree ... WoW's pvp is wretched, I'm having a fun with TORs pvp. Sure there are issues that need to be ironed out and I would like to see them merge some of the lighter servers together to prevent x-server pvp. Plus, I believe Bioware will take making this game better a higher priority than Blizzard ever did.

Expertise is crap ... it's barely effective at all. I think even at 450 expertise it's maybe 9% (correct me if wrong please)? Hardly a game breaker.