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1 mil dps was because of a direct relationship with 2+mil healing. Those large dps numbers were because no one was dying. (AKA getting outhealed)

You do not realize how many of my guildies were only coming back because of this. Should of wasted less time on legacy, and used it on actual game play. Two Things that will make this game thrive. (1) Server Merges, or Cross-Server (2) Ranked PVP

Huge Disappointment... guess it is better to wait for server issues to be fixed.

I thought this was why they delayed the patch so long.. to fix things. At one point they said it would launch early march.

Physics brah, because of physics

EZ gear for you sir, don't have to roll against 5 different SI's O.o

Madness is an awesome pressure damage build. IMO has the most spammable dots with aoe death field and above decent thrashes. Deception is for bursting key players. I've seen an awesome (mirror spec deception) shadow on republic side. But other then him it's hard to find good deception spec'd assassin.

You have to understand that posts like the OP made aggravates most people. Something easily achievable and gained should not be complained about because of his ignorance. He needs to do some research and wait til he hits 50 until any sort of complaining starts. I was under the impression that this gear was being given out. There is so much other stuff that needs to be fixed with this game and a pointless raging post like this is not going to change anything.

Grats, glad you stuck with the Juggy class. One of the best imo, but also one of the hardest to learn to play.

Pre 1.2? Operative or Pyrotech PT After 1.2? I Imagine most classes will be able to take down a healer. Unless Operative healer of course, marauders will be needed to take those down.

Was hoping for my class to be nerfed... oh well can continue destroying people with little effort.

The first time I hit 50 I had around 700k credits. The second time I hit 50 I had around 500k credits. (Lvl'ed my crew skills more) As long as you don't spend your credits on purples that will get replaced in 2 levels or other useless stuff you should have more then enough credits. Also, "NEWS FLASH" at 50 there are dailies that can provide you with 300k in 2 days. Including other means in acquiring credits. Pvping pre 50 can also net you with 1k merc/ 1k wz commendations that can be traded in for a battlemaster piece in the next coming patch. If you do not do this only person to blame is yourself.

More Powerful? Yes Definitely. Jedi view the force in a different way and learn to defeat opponents by other means than simply overpowering them. Just because a Sith has a large power advantage does not mean he will win the outcome of the battle. The fight between Obi Wan and Anakin is the perfect example. Anakin was a whirlwind of hate, anger, rage, and power but Obi Wan who was severely over matched ended up winning in the end by positioning and keeping his thoughts under control. The best Sith like Darth Sidious for example are able to some what control their anger and are not completely controlled by it. But even these powerful beings will never be as clear minded or under control as some Jedi.

Wow is this still going on? If you haven't figured out how slicing makes money now... should probably quit this game.

When did he say this? He asked why his build was fail, and I told him the net gain from 21 points into lightning would be terrible compared to the net gain in going full madness or full deception. Just because your interpretation of his build (which was all he posted) was hit and run does not make it so. Did you read what the OP was asking? I'm really interested in how these "hit and run" tactics are going to work in pvp... sure you'll annoy the healer but you will never have a enough burst to take down any decent healer. (Half the healers in my guild would laugh at a sin running this spec trying to dps him) About the Darkness build I was simply stating if you have not pvp'd in any other spec, you should not be giving people tips on the dps aspects of assassin game play (this is just common sense). This was not directed at you but at the guy who was stating this build was bad because you are not a tank assassin. EVERY SINGLE reason you gave was because this ability in the darkness tree is better. This may have not been what you meant but this is exactly what you said. Honestly your post has ZERO relevance to the damage aspect of assassin game play. Now back at the OP, I strongly recommend you try this build out. Why not? Do not let anyone on the forums tell you that some build is fail... find out on your own trial and error. After this I recommend going one of the pure builds (Any of the assassin trees can exceed in pvp) but they are each a lot different in game play.

I wouldn't do it, dark charge ruins the point of madness. Purely offensive madness is a dot spec requiring lightning charge. For leveling I'd go pure darkness (tank) or pure madness (dps)

My theory: First person gets lead Whoever has the highest valor of the next 2-3 people to join it automatically switches to that person. Only switches once though.

Although I am greatly looking forward to the changes, the fight is not as bad as everyone makes it out to be. Honestly it is an extremely tough fight for newer groups and combined with the few bugs (they can all be worked around), many groups get frustrated quickly. Groups tend to blame it on the small bugs that almost are never the cause of wipes instead of blaming it on the guy who runs through his lightning ball with 50% health or the guy who forgets and his lightning ball goes through the raid or the guy who runs through the wrong lighting ball..

If you cannot take down Soa it is because of your group. This boss actually requires concentration. Yes there is bugs, but most of them can be worked around/avoided. The problem with EV is the first 4 bosses are a joke and then groups expect to 1 shot Soa and when they end up wiping, they blame it on bugs. Things to do/not do (1) Kill pylons in order on your way down, if not his stacks will bug out (Yes need to wait for 1st one) (2) Make sure everyone pays attention to lighting balls and know exactly what to do. I recommend stay on the second phase to learn the fight without damaging the boss the first time through. Take a second to make sure you found your lightning ball and then run through it with full hp. (3) If someone has not been throw in the air and you are closing in on 30% STOP DPS. Wait for someone to be thrown around, and once he lands resume dps. (4) Have tank and offtank following each other on final phase. (MT occasionally gets Mind trapped) (5) Start of second phase do not touch boss are he will likely mind trap tank. (6) Second phase stay grouped up as much as possible (7) All dps on mindtraps, unless of course for the 3rd phase when he kneels.

I play a madness sin when not going darkness. The gain from going 21 into lightning is no where near the loss in amount of dps from skipping out on the later talents from the madness tree. The hybrid is a nice idea but would be not work imo. Just stick with 31 madness for dot spec'd assassins. Also if you haven't played anything but the 31/xx/10 why even respond to this thread? You have no experience in any other area of sin pvp.

I would be 100% fine with this if something was done with server populations and/or cross server queues. Honestly 3/4 of the servers are barely going to be able to do rated pvp matches with 8 people. My server is probably going to have to set up times for ranked pvp.

Sorry but your opinion is probably only shared with people from the 2-5 Heavy Populated servers, some of the small population servers cannot even pvp after like 11pm. Why wouldn't you like to open the competition for pvp?

Yeh, orange gear with only augments is so good. NEWSFLASH: You have to take the mods/enhancements/armorings out of the pvp gear you already have or obtained to create a competitive orange set.

13 year olds should not be allowed on the internet; go ask your mom to teach you what humor and common sense is. (No you cannot grind for it in swtor)