its not such a priority to use in window now because it basically says"stunme" , its still good against a bad/unaware/stunned player as it still does good dmg just not as much as before... and you def need to use it for that auto crit proc at some point..

Even thought its a joke, we should just go along with it, the amount of qq madness assasins got around the end of 2.x was pretty funny and look what they did with them!

empire teams do not win 65-75% at tre

i knew ap had burst but 1.5million dps!?!?!

They really couldn't and if they did it was because the healer was terribad

Well it should go without saying that hatred/serenity is ridiculous i don't need to repeat that Even watchman/anni can have a bit of burst when everythings going down.... but at the end of the day its nothing compared to hatred/serenity a good player of that spec would do 500-1000 dps more in the same situation there.

Well you are qqing about the numbers... and you dont want to play dots.. so basically what you are saying is that one of the burst specs should be doing numbers like dot spread specs oh ye here is 2.6 as a sentinel! http://i.imgur.com/yzavOsF.jpg serenity lite bro. game is hard.. i wasnt going to post this cause.. but since you basically put the exact number for assassin i couldnt resist

So you want the burst specs to do as much dmg as a dot spec? ;_;

ye the new vigilance smash hits like 8k on squishys too and he was against 3 sorcs

Marauder/sents where imo in a balanced place pre 3.0 with the exception of maybe watchman/anni needing a bit more mobility to keep on target. They haven't really been op since undying rage and smash got nerfed... so idk where this op thing is coming from..

2.2k dps as a serenity shadow is a good reason? plz... A shadow i know did more than that as infil

Sure, i didnt say the dmg wasn't believable just that it wasnt a regular thing usualy in civil war stalemates or whatever... 600k healing on the other hand... If they increased merciless zeal back to 2% it might be possible NOW (and would probably make people QQ).. i have done 450k heals as watchman in the current game now cause of the increased hp pools etcetc.. but in 1.1? hell no that was kinda average healing for a HEALER back then.

Juggernauts survivability is a bit op.. Sorcs dmg is a bit op ap PTs burst dmg is a bit op with the way shoulder cannon works currently hatred Sins dmg AND survivability a bit op. Is the way i'd describe it. Theres no real order outside of maybe hatred/serenity being the most op spec.

I think you're exaggerating on the 600k heals thing... and 1 million was pretty rare unless it was a civil war stalemate or something. Most youtube vids from back in the day are still around i challenge you to find one with those stats

plz... regarding anni rage management... its actually quite good in pvp if you take that 4 rage/focus when stunned talent.. you never run out if you take that! hahaha

r u mad

If anything it shows why bioware keeps buffing them, the massive amounts of bads playing them!

AWWWW you poor pts

It can be quite horrible for sents atm watchman/anni is probably the only spec that can do 2k+ dps on a regular basis since the bursty specs are shut down too often with all the kiting tools of inquisitors etc and no immunity plus weaker cds though even that is a serenity lite so... We do need a healer to excel. However i still play sent cause its my main class since launch and after years of being accused of being fotm i think i can finally say i'm not fotm and getting decent numbers on a class that the whole forum says is gimped (though its not that untrue) is probably way more satisfying then rerolling a hatred/serenity and getting those numbers with much greater ease..

Nope thats the sign that the dps need to l2p

Its funny cause it dont matter how much they buff sorcs most are still bad facetankers who are an easy kill on my underpowered watchman sentinel.. Sure a good one is a hard kill but.. those guys have been a hard kill since forever before they had the zillions of buffs...Sometimes i think bioware buffs them due to facetanking majority instead of the minority who are really good at the class..

its already a crappy rip off of madness assasins, that ship has already sailed. so give us a dot spreader than crits 7k instead of 2k-3k... The dot spread is pretty powerful in pvp already for "pressure" or some may say "number padding" it puts 2 dots on everyone however it falls behind the other classes due to the initial ability not hitting as hard.

Honestly, if a healer is any good he will get all the mvps anyway and is usually well appreciated so... erm....

plz...

To survive against the 2 pts? prepare the lube..