Thanks looks like i'm heading back to eso in a couple days .

Soo crafting is the only thing that is going to be in 6.0.2 patch ? or will other changes also be included?

LOL LOL LOL LOL omg yes ...you and the other ranting inthe post are have been wrong so grievously it unimaginable ....how on earth do you survive ????? its more reasonable to assume that both my latest posts in this thread logical and reasonable as a result completely destroyed your argument.. sooooo this failed attempt at a comeback is the best response you could come up with . like the last poster all you succeed in doing is proving to everyone reading just how " unreasonable Im a customer and that justifies any rant entitled attitude. and as someone who has a is entitled enough to blatantly state what is proper and when as well as is of the opinion that the devs need to answer to and explain and justify all their their decision to them again for the whole reason of " i'm a customer and therefore entitled to it " well hope you all the other ranter whining over 0.020 cent worth of lost value manage to find a way to survive this terrible wrong that has been done to you. LOL ... AWWWW oohh i almost forgot you didn't finish your raid ....omg i bet that has ruined your entire week . LOL

i'm not sucking up i am just being reasonable. this also just proves people perceptions of "not treated well" or "being screwed" can also be completely ridiculous if you are even going to try to compare it to a boss or store screwing you . yes ...i can just imagine what kind of thing you rage at offline .it actually makes me laugh LOL losing a few hours or and EVEN AN ENTIRE DAY time perhaps even more due to some unexpected maintenance I would not freak out about money being lost is negligible . ...you realize the the subscription on a per day basis ..is only around .5us cent a day it's just a video game and life is not going to end. In this case since the down time was only an hour you actually only lost approximately 0.020 cents worth of value....if that is enough for you to rage then ...wow ...just wow I paid for subscription to multiple games and have not even logged into one of them before yes people do play more than one game . shocking isn't it . (inb4 well you must be rich then because normal people who work don't do that lol) that's what a reasonable person does ...ohh unscheduled maintenance ok no worries i'll go for a walk ..watch some tv ..go play another game .......not rage because if you think that entitles you to "compensation " because you are being screw ....seriously....there are no words that would give that justice ...facepalm doesn't even come close LOL FYI all of us are spending money to play the game if we are posting here sooo really.. ....i don't know what you were trying to prove there because like the rest of your argument completely failed but did go further to proven the " unreasonably entitled customer " point,

this ^^^^ good post the scary part is i think they actually believe everything they post and they think if they keep repeating the same thing ..that other will believe it ... the truth is they are starting to sound like a broken record . and your right no matter how much they spew their doctrine tis not going to be any more true.

do you actually read the stuff you write just one example out of that whole mess your rhetoric is getting boring ... your as fanatical as they come .....as is your "theories" that swtors woes are do to a lack of group / hard mode play . or increase because of it in 60 with no credible evidence other than i see more people ..... Do you track all those people ? despite what keither and the cult of grouping and hardmode says ..6.0 has been a disaster in many ways . At least what i propose benefits everyone ...EVERYTHING should be solo friendly and pay out the same regardless difficulty. You are simply an elitist that is spinning the story the way that benefits you most as explained here but you blatantly ignored. Companion should be boosted like they were when they had item stats and you could do veteran FP solo . which wouldn't be necessary if everyone was treated the same and go the same and could genuinely play their way no matter if its story mode or master. Everything should be solo with group "options" and there is enough ways to adjust your gear ,companion and abilities for anyone to make it as hard as they want without affecting everyone else.

" YES could have been patched Thurs" omg the arrogance. "Hence why I don't understand why they "emergency patched" you don't need to? andthe fact that you think you do speak volumes i have to give you credit at least you didn't think you deserved compensation for your "inconvenience" so jsut to recap now .......according to you and other ranters in here devs need to justify and ask permission before doing something they feel is important at the time they feel it needs to be done. ok........yea ..sure.... **facepalm** ...thanks for proving my above point about some players entitlement issues i never said the EU had cornered the market on it . Again the part you cut out was in the middle of something too...but omg ..you were "raiding" a omg got inconvenienced. and of course that is more important than what i was doing .

lol chill...... it was only an hour ........ you got to love forum communities .. any of you really think that if it could wait till thursday they would have done that *****News Flash**** NA company working on NA times ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Soo yes EU can possible get more down times than others.. .that's just how it is ... oohh but again "other games " I know this may come as a shock to some but really EU is not the center of the universe not EVERYTHING can be scheduled around "EU" .... and compensation ?? seriously ????.....wow definition of entitlement I am not exactly happy with bioware right now in fact I just unsubbed ...nor am i a pvper but I was busy doing stuff in game so it's not just EU that got screwed Everyone did . The difference is some of us are actually reasonable even when not happy with them and realize this stuff happens just used the time to do other things..not immediately log in and rage and demand compensation. Seriously rage over an hour maintenance for something that need to be fixed now is just unreal... and completely unreasonable .

1 LI content 2 story 3 companion buff charter buff .. and major world nerfs

And how do you know this is not just because of other factors other than difficulty and group honestly imo this is just more MMO = group cult propaganda. IMO there are a term for people with your position ...vocal minority as I also believe ( and have just as much statistics as you do for your claims none ) that the hardcore content , raiders etc are just a small niche faction of the overall population compared with soloing store driven easy mode players. Honestly as i said in my long unsubbed post to keith http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=971484&page=3 If you really wanna see what your demographics are ... make everything equal ... give the solo easy mode the raids and other group content but keep the loot table the same no matter what you do. My OPINION is that the "hard content" and "group" crowd is artificially inflated with people who don't really want to but feel they have to due to design and if given the chance to get the same rewards and the same contest solo I think the vast majority would do so. YOU would then also see people whine about group ques not popping ...which would mean ..that the people who want to group would actually have to put in effort to find others that did since the people being forced to would not be there anymore. and then that group would be whining and unsubbing on the forums ....I have been here long enough to see the raiders and hard core poele complaining about too easy . not enough ops ops not hard enough even when multiple people try to give them suggestion on how to make the content harder for them filling up the forums just like the solo er are doing now . So since you make all these posts with demands for communication , solutions for their serves and pats on the back for the rise in difficulty maybe you can start giving suggestions on how to make the game easier ...how someone can solo contented now without having to go to a 20 hour course on how to "git gud" I did not have to "learn" anything before i just used stuff i thought was cool and mashed buttons ...I could just have fun how I wanted to have fun.... please since you seem to like to make posts on behalf of the community and try to give suggestion about everything else . give me some tips on how I can play the way I want to play like solo player have given tips on how to make the game harder for people who wanted it . Or is it a case of as long as you're happy nothing else matters ? honestly i read though some of you posts and i can't find anything I can actually agree with including what i thought was very entitled post DEMANDING communication. no suggesting , not asking ...Demanding. It's their game when they have something to communicate they will tell us when THEY feel it's the right time and that is a perfectly legitimate right. regardless of what "other " devs teams do... but let me guess ...Your a "CUSTOMER" and are "ENTITLED" to "DEMAND" to information when "YOU" want it because "CUSTOMER " right?

Hi Keith I unsubbed because I WAS NOT happy with what you did in 6.0. I assume you are part of the "like challenge" "niche " camp because that is the only way you could have enjoyed this. In case you didn't see it I have copy and pasted the long version of unsub feedback form as I had to cut a lot out 2000 characters was not enough to fully express my disdain even though I gave you credit for 2 things that I was happy about the cons completely outweigh the pros. **Side note ** I remember the days when Kira could fight anything and destroy ...the most fun I had in swtor was soloing a heroic 4 or flash point and letting Kira just destroy everything while I just sat back and healed her then you took away their item stats. then came level sync which basically prevents you from being op down to just being able to survive. *** So yes keith there have been several times someone in SWTOR has stopped me from " playing my way" and having fun Also worth mentioning ,, "harder challenge people can do alot to make the game harder " easy mode people can't do anything to make it easier Here is the long version of unsub report below *** First I will start of by saying you did 2 things right and I do appreciate it . 1. Kira is finally back. for a moment ..then back to...no interaction. 2. No story content locked behind group / pvp play I am still unscribing because you got Two deal breaker things majorly wrong which was also described by a fellow posters 1 The biggest things is not enough companion / li interaction as someone else has pointed out as well http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=970768 and other threads like it To make me happy personally the minimum of these points would have to happen.. every expansion should have as much flirts, affection cutscenes and conversation as the original class stories did. they should also have comments when talking to quest npc as well like in the class story in a perfect world they would have have a repeatable cutscene and "affection" tab as well ( mass effect 2 end game cabin type) 2 you make diametrically opposed statement statements like "play your way " and ...harder content get better rewards .... Logically Risk / reward effort /reward should not be a factor in a "play your own way system" If someone finds their primary source of "fun" in content that takes "strategy" "knowing how to play " knowing mechanics" and 60 min of smashing buttons to clear one piece of content .... why are they any better or deserve "better rewards" than people who don't?? The Motivation should NOT be "better loot" the PRIMARY reason they should be doing is because they enjoy doing it because that is the way they "Choose to play" Level sync defeats the whole purpose of gear because you can never be "overpowered" anymore and raising difficulty content in a broad you are basically saying..." your fun is wrong if you don't like "challenge and want reward without "effort and "risk" Why are you discriminating against someone who like to feel like they are a powerful unstoppable hero and can clear a veteran FP just solo with their companion smashing everything into oblivion without out every mob taking 5 min or the flash points IN STORY MODE taking 30 min or more to complete. I have read through some of IoNonSoEVero post and generally agree with the ones that I have read and consider them to be a poster of high quality. So there you have it Keith one players personal opinion ( and a quote from another ) of 6.0 you literally took one step forward with the main story being soloable ....but you took 2 steps back with the other points that I mentioned. The game is simply not fun for me .. if you want an example of a fun MMO ESO would be a game to look at there are higher level stuff that you need to group for but ...with no companion...I am to a point now where I can clear some group content completely solo.. just smash though...that's fun and its the type of fun I had once upon a time in swtor please fix both points and maybe if you do it right you will get me back as a regular sub. *********************** INB4 ** REEEEE** MMO means group ..i joined a mmo not single player game INB4 REEEE harder group content deserves better loot because effort /risk reward etc harder content and raids are niche and the PRIMARY you should be doing such content because you enjoy it ..not because there is better loot... if you don't dont hard content because it "pays" the same as easy content ..then you are proving my point ...you are not doing it for "fun and challenge " you are doing it for better loot. Ib4 REEEE "group ques would die if everything could be done easy /solo" 1. that statement itself proves my point completely .. like harder content it would simply show what people are doing for other reason than "enjoyment" 2. if you want to do such que instead of forcing people to do it for reason other than enjoyment ..the onus should be on the players to put the work in to find other player who have the same interests and not really on a que in the first place IB4 REEE swtor is not a dating sim...... i guess you haven't played the class stories or any bioware game ...im a m just asking for continuation on what defines most of biowares games. I know i probably missed a lot of the reeee and flames form certain niche factions of this form this post will attract but those are my response to the major onesI think will pop up

you are definitely not alone in fact this is one of the 2 major reason why I unsubbed tired of Bioware not putting any effort into it. 20 days left https://ibb.co/sVsmNyp

LOL I see the MMO = group people are still alive and well.....one of the reasons i left this forms . Iseem to do better solo in ESO without a companion than i do here.....is ESO not a MMO ?..MMO means multiple people can play in the same environment at the same time ...it does not mean players MUST play together for it to be a "MMO" as I stated with my ESO example I dont pvp in this game but still your "learn to play" (PVP and PVE) comments remind me of people raging in LOL for various petty reasons yet they still join random ques instead of forming their own teams....ever consider some just like running around hitting things and having fun while playing ....the outcome (win/loss) being a secondary aspect? just something to consider.

+ 1 to all of this posters comments . Also ...UNSUBBED...have 20 days left. https://ibb.co/sVsmNyp

I have not responded because it's pointless to... just like you whole argument... completely pointless...your examples are pure facepalm material. Really comparing a board game that does not function without 2 players and painting which is actual work..not a video game. .... you completely proved earlier my point about elitism and bribing people to play / join certain thing they normally would not as well... IMO of course TBH i wasn't going to even respond to the initial responses because experience has taught it's not worthwhile to....The game is not the only thing i gave up on this forum as well. Getting into a discussion with the "hardcores" or the MMO =group is like a broken record....i have already proven with fact that its not by definition true. but for some reason i did ...just like i am wasting my time to respond to you. I quit subbing ages ago when they started this new storyline ..got rid of all companions and started "forcing" which companion I had to have in my party at any given time Thankfully sub runs out sometime today or tomorrow so don't expect any more responses I only sub once a year now if that ... 15.00 per year for all the content is still only very barely worth it . The only good thing about this game if you sub for one month you get everything you missed ( other than the bonus dlc) ( which i want interested in any way would never use them) no matter how long you have been unsubbed. this was a message for bioware not the public since CS team refused to forward it... since bioware does not have any private feedback options that i am aware of other then when you cancel your sub. This game died for me for the most part at the end of the class stories IMO.

nice troll response...sorry but it doesn't matter what you "believe" ...if you want to believe red is white ...that is you right ..doesn't make it fact.

LOL that's the best you could come up with ....?.......obviously my above points were too much for you.

Multiplayer does not mean group....you take every bit of group contented out of swtor it is still by definition a MMO because multiple people are accessing the same environment in real time. That is the only requirement for a massively multiplayer game. .. take second like it has no raids or pvp or even story of its own it's still a mmo . "Second Life is an online virtual world, developed and owned by the San Francisco-based firm ...... 2006, former Governor of Virginia Mark Warner became the first politician to appear in a MMO when he gave a speech in Second Life" Soo you are very wrong.

Why do harder level deserve inherently deserve more? that is a very elitist comment...what makes your preference of play better than the others? ...You are supposed to do harder levels because you Enjoy doing harder levels ...not because you are paid more. If you say that you would not do harder levels if you were "paid" the same as weasy levels ...then you have just proved my point I made inthe image. You are not doing it because you enjoy it but because you want more loot.. That's why Bioware does it. its also way they hide things like M1 4X companion in pvp and making raids part ofthe story and undroppable, give bonuses to joining a guild........they have to "bribe" people because the player base is to small for group activities that they need to artificially inflate it. The fact that both of you are arguing against my point....of "freedom of choice" and letting very play mode stand on its own merits and seeing which survive . How can either of you argue against pure freedom of choice ..unless there is some merit to what post said?

I disagree with you ...mmo does not mean group especially in SWTOR MMO is simply a platform where multiple people access the same content in real time. it's not inherently about guild raids pvp or any of that those are simply aspects of the game. As I said give everyone freedom of choice...if the group ques / pvp dies ..the play base has spoken.

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My apologies again it was someone of the "group" mentality that hijacked it originally I was merely praising someone for standing up to them and cautioning them on repeated attempts to do so. Due to their zealous mindset and beliefs. Your correct I should have taken my own advice on my second comment and apologies for feeding them further. I can assure you I will take my advice from now on won't feed them any more

I should take my own advice and not bother responding to this comment but this is easy to disprove and you just gave my post validation with your comment . This will be the only comment you get As referenced by the example comment they respond to what i state is not an opinion but fact there is a difference. Its not "mandatory" to have raids, or any other organized group content to be classified a multiplayer online game . All you need is a platform that allows multiple people to log on to the same environment in real time . Which Swtor does so when i say that if you take out all of the organized group activities Swtor and all games like it would still be classified as MMO that is a fact not an opinion. so your comment is not only completely wrong but again proves everything i said regarding the use of invalid or otherwise faulty reasoning to champion a cause

Going through this and saw your response wanted to say you answered that perfectly. People who use terms like they did and others like "if there isn't raids its a "single player game" not a mmo"." MMO means grouping" "group content is the "core" of the MMO and try to ram that down other peoples throats as actual "fact" are not worth dealing with . Especially in a thread like this where everyone is simply answering questions based on their own opinion. Its simply because they have a Zealous self centered belief and use invalid or otherwise faulty reasoning to champion their cause an example of this is in the very quote you commented on. There is enough evidence on the factual definition of a mmo and even evidence in SWTOR from the start of the game there has been more solo content available to qualify as the "core" of the game and Bioware is even adding to the amount that is already there . The evidence is clear just in this game alone group content has been a supplementary addition played by the niche group of a loud vocal minority. ( nothing wrong with that my point is that its not the core of the game . Swtor would still be a MMO without it ) Anyways personally I just ignore such comments now, I wasted enough of my time on them trying to reason with them that statements like above regarding group content are factually invalid , that group content is "not a mandatory requirement " to be classified as a mmo and the simple fact that playing a mmo like SWTOR /WOW /GW2 and many others "solo" is actually more common than they would like to believe . This is just a suggestion If I was you I would do the same from now on as you will never get them to see actual logic and reason and its really not worth wasting the time on them do to their closed minds and zealous beliefs

I second that mods if your listening this Thread should have been shut down ages ago.