Haha, I see what you did there. Ah, now I recall, yeah that power should be left out. We know nothing about it.

I remember the exile cutting off traya's other hand, but I don't recall her severing her from the force. I've been searching to find the source, but to no avail. Could you point me in the right direction?

I can tell most people here are extreme fans of Kreia. I think she's cool and all but Darth Bane is a lot cooler (in my opinion of course.)

People have different opinions. Dont be so surprised that not everyone agrees with you. I liked Revan. Doesnt mean I think someone is stupid if they don't like it.

What power is this?

We need more opinions, me and beni arguing back and forth will achieve nothing. Question: If Traya was severed from the force when she was using the lightsabers (source?) then she would have to have tapped into the massive dark side nexus of the trayus core to achieve that feat, so coild she do something like that without the aid of a nexus?

Bane won't fall victim to dun moch, anger only makes him stronger. I don't think traya's speed would be faster than his, either. Where is it said that she is thst fast? Where is it said that traya can completely disappear in the midst of battle? And to what extent could she use her shatterpoint ability? I recall her saying that she could see fractures, but not how proficiant she was with them (like has she ever defeated someone with shatterpoint?) Traya by no means can defeat Bane in lightsaber combat. His sheer strength will over power anything her makashi can do (think dooku vs anakin). His unpredictable style was made so that it would be incredibally difficult for someone to find fault in it. Regarding her ability to telekinetically wield 3 sabers at once, think back to the battle between her and the exile. When wielding the sabers she didn't move at all, didnt use any force powers, and if you attacked her rather than th sabers she would only use melee attacks. So its suffice to say that she has to focus her full attention in to doing that. Her force drain ability won't work as well against bane as it did against the 3 defenseless Jedi masters who were caught by complete surprise that Kreia even attacked them. It wouldn't be incorrect to say that bane is much more powerful than those 3 jedi masters. Remember that bane is also well versed in sith sorceries (considering he studied Nadds holocron), I doubt anything traya will throw at him will catch him by surprise. Edit: Also her lightsabers were very slow moving, and it was easy to seperate them

I think someone should compare Bane and Traya (for the most powerful sith list) If not I will soon.

This is a tough battle. However, Traya has no way to fight bane using a lightsaber. Bane has shown time and time again that dual bladed or single bladed lightsabers have no effect against him. Soresu wouldn't be much of a help, as bane is well versed in it and could beat Zannah, who was a master of Soresu. I think bane could overpower Traya simply because of his physical strength (btw are we considering Traya has only one hand or both?) Traya's shatterpoint certainly comes into question, but due to the unpredictable nature of Bane's form its unlikely that she could use it effectively against him (Does anyone know to what extent Traya mastered shatterpoint?) If force drain is out of the question, then I'm not sure how Traya will win. Bane is very powerful, his lightning able to leave bodies as charred husks, and he has shown the ability to collapse entire buildings. Honestly, Traya is powerful, but she is no combat expert compared to Bane. I doubt she would be able to escape engaging in a lightsaber duel, and even if she does, Bane is more than capable to use force attacks against her.

Yay! Lemme think about this while I'm working

Then its all the more impressive she could defeat traya, but yet she couldn't defeat nihilus without help, and having visas weaken him by undermining his bond.

Fair enough. Regardless of nihilus, I think someone should compare bane and traya

Source? I don't remember malachor weakening the exile.

Why didn't Malachor have an effect on the exile?

Everyone here, hypothetically consider than nihilus retains his powers if his wound close up (aside from force drain) Where would you put him on the list?

I think I've made it clear that I don't dislike beni, so know I was just joking. I'm sorry for offending you Nihilus couldn't press down on the exile considering she was a wound also

I shouldn't have to post a source for this, considering we all know surik couldn't defeat nihilus without weakening him, and having help. But she defeated traya alone while traya was in a dark side nexus.

The beni thing was a joke, considering you guys respect him a lot. Just a joke, I promise. And please don't insult legend, I don't care how bad he is, the moment you insult him you stoop to his level

Beni, just gotta say you are fun to argue with. I promise ill post the sources either tonight or tomorrow, when I get the cance (considering I have to go to work very soon, and I have plans with friends after that). I should have posted the sources in the first place, I do apologize good sir.

It Is not misguided and flawed, I've actually spent the last couple of days researching and thinking about this. I will post the sources when I get off work today. Edit: actually, maybe tomorrow. I have plans tonight. Lol

Like I said though, we need more opinions. I invite people to actually think about this, rather than blindly follow beni because you think he's cool, haha. Edit: and yet he was still to powerful for the exile alone even without using his forcr drain

Like I said, he didn't have this power until Traya trained him in the force. Read wookiepedia, they have the sources I'm coming from. And please don't get angry, people don't see straight when they are angry. Edit: it also takes some thought, as there is no canonical statement that Nihilus was nothing but a wound.

Listen, Beni, we've both given good points here. I think we need more peoples opinions on this. We already know marcelo's yours, mine, and selenial's.

If you actually read my posts, you'd understand me.

Nihilus could use the force. I'll explain this one more time. Hunger = wound + his own emptiness. His hunger gave him the force drain ability. Imagine Nihilus without force drain, he still has other powers, he just can't devistate worlds anymore. Traya does not have an almighty say, no matter what you think