Yep, heck with the recent buff to thrash, if those snipers and mercs find themselves in melee distance of you, well you now got another overpowered move to hit them with.

Yes, you are doing ranked pvp on a sorc, when there are clearly much better options out there for heals and dps

Internal damage is not the same as having some armour penetration is it?

I still want shroud for sorcs, even if we got all that. We need a proper defensive.

Not just biochem having similar issues with armormech too, but yeah I've re'ed over 60 implants and not got a single recipe today.

It's just not worth arguing with KBN. It's clear a) since you have 75 gear you are completing NiM b) the fact he seems surprised by your health - that he isn't and hence c) you know what you're talking about and he doesn't. You can't convince someone who has clearly closed their mind to the possibility they are wrong, no matter how good the proof. He doesn't want to investigate anything, he wants to keep asserting (with no evidence) sorcs are "fine" in NiMs, and he doesn't even raid on a sorc. He doesn't seem to grasp that just because it can be done with a sorc, that there are problems doing it with sorcs. The only thing as yet undetermined is KBN's reason for trolling the sorc forums, and his hidden agenda for not wanting them to get any rebalancing. And I doubt he's going to be forthcoming as to that, given his proven track record for assumption and shall we say "fabrication." (Edit:typo)

Yep I was hoping you'd come back with more bs. And here sir, is the refutation of it: No, it wasn't an assumption, it was an inference based upon your posts here: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=669208&page=5 So, it only stands to reason EVEN IF you were healing, you'd also have a DPS set, since you know TRUE raiders are prepared for any situation and do whatever it takes and you know, you have damn near have two sets of gear on all your toons. And not only that since you're that good a player you'd have no trouble healing or dpsing on your sorc.. Of course, since I'm now firmly convinced you just spout whatever BS comes to mind to make yourself look good, it's hard to take anything you say at face value. In short Sir, you lie.

What a charming individual you are. Instead of arguing you spew forth vitriol and insults because you lack anything competent to say and deflect attention away from the core argument. No, I'm not stupid, but the more you comment the more ignorant, arrogant, and clueless you sound. You constantly gainsay players with proven pedigree, and contradict yourself. Does not mention dps or healer, so anyone would infer you were dps, given you switched to a mara, (ie had 2 healers in Raid already). Of course I wouldn't expect you to understand reasoning or making an inference from given data, but whatever dude. So, I got the inference wrong, doesn't mean it wasn't a reasonable inference. Something you really can't understand, and just show how pathetic you are with your torrent of unwarranted abuse. All because you need to wave that little e-peen of yours about. If ranged doesn't have any downsides, you could (or should have been able to) just have easily convinced them taking sorc dps was fine over your mara. But see, you keep adding more BS to your story. If it was YOU they wanted and not the class, then yet again your sorc should have been fine. Takes just as long to gear one toon as another, no? The more you talk the less your arguments hold water. I'll assume given your limited intelligence and demonstrated lack of coherent logical thought, that that is probably the best you can do. Poor thing. Arrogance and limited intellect are not a good combination. My condolences. Your job? Lol. Just who do you think you are? You might want to go to a doctor and get checked out, because you are showing signs of being delusional.

The wings are just stupid. There hasn't been one pve or pvp set for inquisitors or consulars I have liked yet.

What a pathetic answer. Seriously, I paid for my field respec with credits, been a subscriber for ages*, and field respec used to be cheap 1k, 2.5k or whatever and go up from there and that was for subs and yeah eating 25k or 50k respec to help people out got annoying but starting at 130k when you have a credit limit of 350k is borderline insane.

As for realistic change: give us shroud/resilience already.

Says it all right there, they didn't want a sorc dps.... now why was that? Edit; I'm going to call bs on "they wanted a melee"*. And then you raid on a mara of all classes and have the gall to say sorcs are wanted and viable. Incredible. *I'm going to wager they wanted the utility and crazy dps of a mara over a sorc, becuase if it was just melee dps, you could have chosen powertech, assassin, juggernaut or even operative but no, you plumped for the overperforming overpowered one.... Curious isn't it?

If you want to play a dot spec ranged dps, roll a lethality sniper. In fact, ranged dps, there really is no reason not to play anything else. I can't in good conscience recommend sorcerer to anyone now even with their completely overpowered heal to full abilities.

I run the level 9 slice lockbox missions with some regularity and I get about 3 investigation missions to 1 of anything else. I wouldn't mind so much if they had any value but they are junk given that invest mats are the most useless in the game. I think you would just be doing us all a favour if you removed Investigation altogether and made armstech mats the scavenge/underworld trading instead.

Maybe the sage is good and you are bad? Sage has better gear. Lots of different reasons for your 1 spot of anecdotal evidence that proves nothing. Well, if sages aren't underperforming that's rather a silly question isn't it? And even more so since you play a mara

Well I have to agree with Arch. You seem to state your opinions as is they are fact though, and rather arrogantly at that. We have plenty of people on classes that could tank or heal on their dps character, but they don't want to. And frankly given we have 8 people with an assigned role, it seems rather stupid to waste time gearing up off-sets when the time we have could be spent on actual progression and drops put to the use of furthering their primary role, the one they came to the raid to do, and more importantly want to do.

You, sir, are woefully delusional.

Can we have an achievement along the lines of "Healed yourself to full in Civil War" x 10 etc And a new Title: "Learnt to Heal to Full". K Thanks

I think you're trolling now. If you want a class without defensives try Sorc, and the answer to your previous enquiry was already given, the sawbones tree is flat out brokenly overpowered.

Troll roll definitely needs a cooldown but keep the energy cost. And healing needs a huge nerf. You shouldn't have such high mobility on the move as you do coupled with laughably easy resource management and the highest HPS throughput.

Because it's the sawbones tree that's overpowered. Obviously. And trollroll is strong for all 3 specs and amongst the most overpowered moves in the game.

Yeah I agree, it was a mistake, but not only that but they didn't give the other ACs enough utility to compensate, because as it stands both maras and snipers bring an awful lot in terms of utility that other ACs don't.

Interesting as this all is, there's a few things we should consider. a) You are all assuming things stay the way they are now, and I think we all hope that sorcs get some much needed love by 2.4, and personally as an aside I think snipers, warriors and op heals need some nerfs. b) Either hybrid or lightning burst is a) turrety to some extent b) RNG/proc dependent, and therefore not reliable and both are fairly easy to shut down.

Haha. Thick headed huh? Imbedded insult about being a tool? You know, I find that once a person resorts to such insults it's usually a desperate attempt to throw the argument away from the core issue because they really can't defend their side of the argument. As such, I'll not bother replying to your desperate attempts at keeping marauders overpowered. But one last thought for you, is any mara worth their salt going to think twice about going after a sorc? If you are able to keep your delusions and or hidden agenda from interfering with your self-honesty, the answer to that will tell you all you need to know about balance.

Don't try to ruin what? Yeah, why is it not surprising you guys don't want to face the much needed reality check. You know what makes pvp fun - balance. Not stacking OP classes that have a counter for everything another AC does. Going back since forever marauders have been stupidly strong. Whether it was anni, carnage or rage, all 3 specs have their plus points, and all in the hands of a skilled player have been and are still viable. Just because it's rage now, doesn't mean anni or carnage haven't been "the pvp" spec. And I'd argue carnage still has alot going for it over rage for pvp, but then it takes a good player to make it happen, so the fact you only thought I was talking about rage, kinda tells me you need your brain-dead "lolsmashtard" spec to be effective. The fact of the matter is, warriors enjoy a very strong combination of defensive cds, ability rotations that can't be interrupted or shut down without filling resolve. You have a good toolkit of gap closers, snares and roots, which means it takes another stupidly OP AC (namely the sniper) for you to even have the semblance a counter class. Edit: I wouldn't even mind the defensives so much if the dps was nerfed to balance your insane survivability, but it so happens marauders enjoy exceedingly good dps and utility to boot. And since people have posted videos of 2 level 50 sentinels tanking SM Denova with a single scoundrel healer (pre 2.0!), given no other dps class would have a chance of pulling that off, it really does mean your class is way too strong and your nerfs are way overdue. Heck I even remeber threads in the Flashpoints section of why marauders can't queue as tanks. Sorry, I'm not trying to ruin anything, I'm hoping (in vain) it seems for the devs to bring some semblance of pve and pvp balance between classes. And it really doesn't surprise you maras want to keep it the way things are. Heavens forbid you have to use some skill to beat people rather than roflstomping them.