You can't do any of that without first addressing dps hybrid "tanks".

Nice circle stroking in this thread. Go play a vanguard tank and see how your juggernaut feels in comparison. That's the bottom of the story. Real tanks are a liability, you are almost always better off with a hybrid "tank".. And Bioware thinks it's fine. Maybe their metrics tell them hybrid dps "tanks" are tanks...

The rollfl is broken but whatever, its bioware.

No no, let them. I'm having a laugh at how "nobody has discovered how op guard is" (now, dps hybrids with guard, that's another story) The idea some people have of pvp is blindly charging forward to a same objective, nuke it, go to the next, nuke it and so on, and anything that deviates or makes them deviate from that pattern is "sluggish". Kids

It's called a MMO, not a MGO.

Archeage. Assuming they get the payment model well so that it doesn't **** up pvp, it has open world pvp, sieges and ****. TTK may be a bit too high, we'll see. It is what I expected we would have gotten on Ilum. I still remember their promise and how they were "working on something". Ha!

That's usually not a problem with enough population.

Similar to vanguards/pt tanks stacking endurance rather than their tanking mechanic (shield) because it still sucks so much in pvp.

Gunnery.

Usually (and I stress, usually) when that happens in a game it is the result of proper balance.

What the gunship needs is to turn slower when stationary. Just that.

I'm sorry.

"Hey vanguard shield spec do your job!" "Nope. Crits. You tank. I'll guard you from behind" "at least go finish that guy with 20% health!" "nope. death."

I feel you. I get way more survivability with my sage or gunslinger than with my vanguard shield spec. Most of the time its like being a squishy dps with no dps.

Resolve is fine.

BIOWARE SMASH! I guess I will be leaving again. PVP wise the commando continues to be ****, the tank vanguard is crap due to both shielding mechanics and crits and looks like a medal pinata (compares even worse in the face of the hybrids), and I refuse to go wannabesmashmonkey with the sentinel. That leaves me with an absolutely op gunslinger and sage in comparison to the previous classes, but which I don't enjoy playing as much. I understand the idea they had at the start regarding classes, damages and rock paper scissors but It has failed miserably. I'm not here to be anyone's content just because I don't roll the FOTY/FOTG.

And here I was hoping for a fix to vanguard/powetrech tanking so that there's a good reason to pvp with that tree and not a hybrid...maybe in two years time.

I had a 70+ valor non ilum farmed gunnery commando back in 1.2 (or ilke that). It got too nerfed for my taste. So I gave the gunslinger and the tk sage a try (since they are sort of similar to the gunnery commando). It was night and day. There is absolutely no reason to play a gunnery commando above those two. The sage may be made of cardboard, but the tradeoff of on demand buffer+controls+mobility vs commando's heavy armor+dcds is just awful. Not only your damage mitigation does not compare with the sage's "not being there" and slipperiness (which mitigates infinite opponents and dps), you are as vulnerable to melee and ranged. Hold the line just is not enough. The gunslinger. Well. I couldn't believe Flourish Shot. They nerfed grav round and in the gunslinger I find a 20% armor reduction for 45 seconds? Spammable? And heal debuff? Seriously? Wait... they can't be charged? So the juggernaut jumping to me and being immune to concussion charge or two leaps is not an issue anymore? What do you mean it's not a sitting duck for stealth openers like the commando? What do you mean immune to controls? As much as I like it, the gunnery commando is _disgustingly_ bad to play compared with either the sage or gunslinger. The grass on the other side of the fence looked greener. So I jumped. It was indeed greener.

Pretty dishonest comment, isn't it? You know pretty well where the damage from smash monkeys comes from. It is clear you are happy with the situation. Good for you. But there's no need to be dishonest and manipulative about it.

I've heard that excuse before. Anyway, you are saying that in order to solo a AOE based class you need a good player. Do you realize how broken that is?

They mentioned early summer. Summer starts the 21 of june. Early summer is not the start of summer. That's even without taking into account bioware's track record so far (late 1.2, unfinished). And you are shocked? Seriously? Do you disengage conscious thought on will because you don't want to face the fact that there's still weeks to go?

Is this the way you are telling the world you 3 guys suck?

Roll on a pve server or get some 50 friends to go kill them.

Lol. This forum section keeps delivering fine comedy moments.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA Hilarious! Seriously, considering what they did with the mortar AOE fix you expect anything good to come out of this vague statement?