Not only that players would like but what was promised over a year ago. I feel so bad for the NiM raiding community. They have it even worse then pvpers right now.

I usually see randoms claiming really bad people on their team are wintraders

I asked because 9 times out of 10 it's not really an exploit. Only ones I ever see are relic exploiting and most people don't even know about them.

Is everything okay at home?

Look man as much as I'd love to argue about something that has absolutely nothing to do with the original most I'm at work. You can pick apart every single word I type instead of just doing a google search if You want but I'm already behind. You're clearly just the average fleet chatter that jsut runs hammer station. Have a good day.

Easily done just look at the steam numbers before the R4 issues. According to polls and reports from EA, steam is the most widely used launcher amoung players. August 2021 steam was clearing 21k+ daily users ,less then a year later when 7.0 was announced during July 2021 there was only 10k daily users because people were disgruntled that the operation was delayed even further past the 7.0 launch delay. Fast forward to February 2022 when 7.0 and obviously there was an increase for when people came back to check it out and it was at 19k daily. 6 months later it had dropped to an all time low of 6k daily users and didn't get back up to 10k until last month. Like I said casual players are like goldfish.

You're right. And swtor has lost Most of it's raiding community which before 7.0 was the largest contributer to subscriptions. The ranked community which I would say was a little under 5% of the games population have all left to the blizzard game with maybe 5 ranked players remaining game wide. All that's left are the bare minimum of casuals who just play because it's star wars. And let's be real most casuals have a very goldfish type brain for gaming. How long do you realisticly think they'll remain in swtor once the stories dry up? Especially with new star wars games and ashes of creation right around the corner.

Mind explaining what exploits you've seen?

If it counted s actual content they wouldn't be getting dragged on the forums, reddit and twitch by 90% of the people. They need to be adding content that actually poses a challenge and has real obstacles. Not things that can be completed in one day. If it was alright people wou;d've been fine with the malgus story at the 7.0 launch.

People wanting R4 is irrelevant honestly. It's the fact that even the mention of R4 or ranked pvp is being silenced. Why can't we ask questions about the game? They gutted content in pvp and fumbled what could've been a good operation in pve. That's why they don't want anyone mentioning is. Both of those are a stain on their record.

You mean like ranked?

I wouldn't have worded it how he did but he's not completely wrong. Both sides have a large sense of entitlement to a certain degree. This is an mmo and before 8 mans were even a thing there were people mad that the other tema grouped up with friends. Get rid of 8 man premades for sure but remove being able to play with friends in a casual pvp enviroment and you may as well just throw money at WoW.

I don't know about you but to me it almost felt like a recording. Very little interaction and talking at us instead of with us. Edit: Personally I think it would do the devs a ton of good if they did a weekly/monthly stream just playing the game and saying they aren't there to answer questions. They seem so detached from the game and its community that just playing it would do them a lot of good pr.

Sadly I think you're right. We've all been saying for years that this game has had one foot out the door and I think we're seing the second step out right now. I'll forever cherish the memories and freinds I've made here bad I think they're about to make servers NA and EU. In about 2 years I could see the announcment made that the servers will be shutting down.

That's a very good point I wasn't even thinking about the reskinned armors. The pvp armor for the new seasons ia a prime example of this. I've seen one person the entire past 2 seaons wearing any of it. It's so fugly and lazily designed after they claimed they were making good rewards for pvp. People only want previous rewards because the designs early on in the game were really good looking. The biggest issue is that the devs seem afraid of criticism and I get it. When they log onto the forums and browse everything they're probably not filled with a feeling of pride. It's pretty much all negative feedback. But ignoring it and only listening to their echo chamber of content creators has turned swtor into nothing but a micro transaction lobby.

It's just so bizarre. I figured it was on their list of things they planned to add. To me it looks like they regret R-4.

Dawg this ain't fleet chat. I gave a criticism that even content creators are even saying at this moment on their streams. Have fun with your 20 minute flashpoint though.

Are you trying to make a point or are you arguing for the sake of arguing?

You're proving me right. Nobody who does anything more then space barbie cares about a new flashpoint. If that's your thing more power to you but content isn't something you can do in 40 minutes. People weren't spamming it they asked and got silenced.

Todays livestream for 5/3/23 was a complete embaressment not only for the lead team but for paying subscribers. Many including myself got a timeout for simply asking about the R-4 operation and if it's gonna be getting master mode. How are we supposed to feel like we can come to the Developers with an issue even if it's a bug report if we get slapped down for asking extremely simple questions? If you don't have any plans tyo add it just say that instead of punishing people paying you money. Another thing is that the upcoming patch frankly is quite underwhelming. Nobody is genuinely excited for it because it's bringing zero real content to the game. You've all been evading this but you guys have straight up destroyed pvp in 7.2 completely. Stop ignoring people who say this and stop listening to people who only play the game to play space barbie. Nothing wrong with doing that but they have no clue what they're talking about when it comes to raiding or pvp. Removing ranked has completely killed the game and you should all be ashamed for admitting to removing it because you guys didn't wanna invest money into tweaking the leaderboard. And lastly you content creator program is failing. there's multiple allegations that your "main" content creator is abusing admin power on reddit and on the swtor discord. There were multiple content creators that made swtor a great mmo. Looking at Biggs,ragequitting and swtor angels. See any of them still here? Please take this livestream and 7.0 as a learning experience and remember you guys are here to create a fun game. We're not your enemies we want you guys to turn swtor around from what it currently is not into an mmo people don't laugh at.

I think the intention is to put lower rated players with higher rated players but my theory is that there isn't enough people in the queue 24/7 for it to always work so it gets randomized more often then not.

I do more 4v4 then 8v8 these days so you would probably know more. I've just noticed that in 4v4 it doesn't make a huge difference it just feels like team mates are randomly placed. I'd say that most people are referring to bots as the people who refuse to learn or have been playing for a decade and haven't improved at all. If you see someone calling new players bots they themselves were most likely a bot when ranked was a thing.

Premades need to be limited back to 4 man teams. That being said the amount of horrible players is bad for the repuation of the game overall. If someone from WoW wanted a break from pvp there and decided to pick swtor up they would last a week tops because there's probably 50 people at most left in pvp that even know what their abilities do never mind how to gear. It's gotten bad in extremely short amount of time. W:L doesn't really make any difference at all. I have toons with a 50% win percentage and toons with over 100 games played with a 91% win percentage. You get paired with uncarriable bots on both.

Directing your anger towards me is extremely misplaced. You're acting like I'm the entirety of damage farming guilds. I play obj when I get the odd team that actually talks in ops chat. I wasn't justifying anything I was telling you what I've seen first hand from people that only damage farm. The devs don't care so they don't care either. There's even less punishment for throwing in 8v8 then there was for throwing in ranked. It sucks but it's never gonna change because the devs don't care if it changes. All their talk about bringing a positive change to pvp and getting people to play obj is just that. This is what the game is now and nothing is gonna change it unless the dev teams paycheck gets threatened and by that time it'll be too late. Not really sure why you're coming at me sideways about it.

Group challenge actually is pointless tho. Even if the winrate worked for them it still would mean about as much as new warzone win percentage card does. I'm not sure why that rings hollow to you considering no fun objective maps have been added since yavin ruins. That's what, going on 6 years now? Even if people weren't deathmatching at spawn in 8v8 it wouldn't change the fact that nobody wants to guard a node/door, people rarely are willing to be a ball carrier in HB and the newer pvpers just run around aimlessly and get insanely toxic to anyone that tries to lend them a hand with learning the maps. So if you're in a 4 man premade with pugs that do literally nothing but stand in one spot and click the node against a premade with pugs with a high mmr who do you think is gonna get rolled in both damage and obj? The team with the bot pugs realisticly won't bother with the obj. That happening over the course of several years turns people into the SF pvp guilds that just damage farm and don't even bother with the obj ever. The devs caused this animosity between the two types of pvpers by removing everything and refusing to reward playing obj with anything more then a pat on the back.