This is exactly the kind of guide i was looking for! *bookmarks* i vote for a sticky. Sidenote: im still a newb, but i was allready thinking the way this guide went. Its just nice to see your own idea's aproved by more experienced players:-)

Yea, im following on this build now. I just need this to get to 50. I allready have a group of people i will play with at endgame, and for that i will use a max dmg build, im allready pretty certain about what it will look like. (ive read a lot of threads about the pvp subject, sadly almost none were about a good lvling build). I allready have a friend healer, tank, operative. So they need me to be simply more firepower. The 0/13/28 build will be almost similar to the build i have in mind. Just a little tweaked. To max out dps. Thanks for all the input, apreciate it a lot^^

So healer spec is pretty much, you kill slower. But more guaranteed killing. I kind of like that idea also. @seanimus: So your pretty much saying to get a hybrid madness/lightning spec. I was thinking about that. Saw a lot of skill tree's for those also. Anyways, thanks for all the fast input. Hope to see more coming.

Hello, ive been reading up on a lot of skill tree's posted on this forum. But im still confused at what is the best PvE skill tree. pure lightning? or Pure madness? or maiby a hybrid specc like 0/13/28? Or even a full healer build? Im stil a rather low lvl. So i dont have the luxery to try out different builds much. So any responce from experienced players will be much apreciated. Personly im a raw power (lightning) or Healer kind of guy. But if for example a madness spec is better, i will use that. This is just for PvE, for pvp i know what build i have to use. Right now i just want to lvl up a bit quicker/easier.

Shhhhhhhhhh!!!! XD Great post :-P

@Dejito: buble taking more dmg then heavy armor? It takes up 500/1000 dmg, and then it breaks. Ive never seen heavy armor break though. Thats odd! @threadstarter, learn to kite. Never stand still for to long. Use obstacles, anything that will interupt ur opponents combo's. And you will see that you will live a lot longer. Sorc/sage are the best balanced class imo. Other classes should get a skill revieuw to make them more compettive. But thats my opinion. Ive just hitted 21, and its sometimes hell in pve. (thats prolly me bein suckish at it) but still. I do rather good in warzones though, since i got brains and im from a game where you could get rpk'd 5 times in 1 minute. So yea, im rather good at pvp. But in the same time i suck at pve. Point is, players arent predictable npc's. You simply gotta use ur wits to outsmart them. And it really isnt as hard as it looks. I used to suck in cod mw2. But in time i gotten better. If ur not a natural, then practise and more practise is your way to glory.

My friend is also a healer, and he is having the same issue. He just became 50 with a friend jugg. And where he had a hard time healing at lvl 48/49. (he stil has only green:blue gears) it is now almost impossible for them to finish the exact same rounds at lvl 50. If that isnt proof enough then idk anymore.

No its not. Im a healer also, and i have to spend 0.75/1.0 sec more on my rotation. Its nothing i cant deal with, but it does feel unnatural. Also, if this was a nerf, then BW please notice that you are mostly hurting the healers, and not the dps'ers. (where the complains are about in the first place). Just my 2 cents.

I agree with OP, though i wouldnt say that most people suck. They are just to lazy and ignorant to read and think logical. Besides, there is a HUGE difference between pvp and pve. For example, i suck terrible at pve. But i rule in WZ's. Also, gears (specialy endgame gears) and personal skills, are a HUGE must have also. Gear = 50% - player skills = the other 50% that wins the fight. I have played a lot of mmo's. But i have never seen this much cry QQ about stuff that is totaly not broken. -Magiz

I 100% agree to the opening post. No game is perfect. SWTOR is no exception that. Patience young padawaan ;-)

I 100% agree with the OP. Ive been trying to get people understand this simple fact also. This is exactly what a "rogue" is supposed to be doing.

Newsflash if you didnt get me, im against nerfing in general. This is not the way to recreate balance to a game. So yea that means im against the op/scoundrel nerf also.

You got a good point there, but im only playing for like 2 weeks. And all this pre emptive nerf QQ is getting me nervous, i dint left wow to come back in that endless cycle of corrupting a good game. What they should do is make underdog classes more competitive.

Im a magic fan boy (couldnt you tell? Then get glasses). I play a magic class (healer/dps) in every game i play. I simply like to play, and i think that that is what you all should do. I mean, thats what a game is created for right?

Whai dont you all shat up, and go play the game? Crying for a nerf means that you failed to understand mmo basics.

I was only refering to the crying about pretty much everything that sux on their class. But works on another. I dont mind dual speccing. But there still has to be the choice and the result from it. Because this stil is an rpg. So i hope bioware can find the golden midway. Because its pretty much the only studio, who can still deliver pearls of games like mass efect 1/2 and DAO. Allthough DA2 kinda sucked in my opinion. And they proved their mastery again with swtor. To be perfectly honest, id have prefered classes to be ONLY dps/healer/tank. But remember, this game is still young. A lot of things can change, maiby we get some nice new classes later. Who knows. Maiby if lvl cap gets increased, dps only classes get some nice new slils also. So lets all not jump to conclusions, and have fun. And see where it goes.

This is called an mmoRPG for a reason. First off all, you CHOSE to be a pure DPS class. The fact that for example a sorc or an operative has similar to even higher dmg then you, is completely irrelevant. If you are so scared that you will never get a party, then just make people WANT YOU. This is an rpg, not some fps like call of duty. You have to make choices, and live with them. Personly, i think the respecing of skill tree's should get at least a 3 days cooldown. Maiby even 7. I do agree that simply respeccing from dps to healer, isnt really a great solution. Its a credit sink. I know that. But seeing some1 switching 5 times a day from dps to healer isnt really rpg style either... Gods... Id wish for a worthy succesor of baldurs gate... But since thats prolly never going to happen anymore. (devs only got €$£ signs in their eyes, instead of a creative imagination). Im sticking to the best game there is around atm. So yea, thats currently swtor. Now yall quit biashing. Go play. Your making this oldskool hardcore rpg gamer cry...

They could just create that sub forum. And ignore it. While deleting all the spammed threads in the other sections off the forum about the subject. I vote: HELLA YEA!!

That buble only takes top 1.5k dmg. And then im really generous. So ur point in this is pretty much invalid. Its just another utility to save ur ***. Troopers have heavy armor, sage/sorc light. Honestly you troopers are allready having an advantage. They should make other classes more competitive, instead of nerfing classes that aint really broken. Just not played well mostly. If they keep nerfing classes, then im out of here so fast. I hated WoW for it. And im not going back in that endless cycle of screwing over a good game. I love it here bioware, so please dont f*ck this game up...

This^. I have a 2x sorc. And if i catch a scoundrel or operative when they are bursting some1. Even if its a 4x. (s)he is simply dead. But, that goes the other way around also. Hell, if i get ganked by more then 2 players. Then i dont even get the chance anymore to say "oops" tankability my ***. Most of our dmg skills are cast related. Making sorc an easy target for other classes. Id say, dont nerf anything as off yet. There is still a lot of other things that need tweaking. Seriously, if you kill in 3/4 sec. But get wasted yourself within 1/2 sec. Then there is simply no way to justify this nerf. Tbh, i kinda like it this way. Cus honestly, in a movie. Did you ever see an assassin (not jackie chan lol) sneak up to some1. And then take 3/4 minutes to kill their target? Seriously... Get real...

I kinda liked the force adept idea. Force sensitive, but not wanting to join a side. Or maiby later on. I like it.

Hmm yea, idk if you guys checked blade&soul gameplay vids. But there is a nice class called the "forcemaster" wich would do awesome here i think, its a bit of martial arts with magic "force?" . I was going to play that, til i ended up here lol. Or maiby a summoner, idk if this can be worked out in the star wars setting. But i always also enjoyed spiritmasters next to sorcerers on aion aswel.

Im not really playing very long. And i also dont have that much time to play nowadays. So since i like a bit of magic, and i hate carebears. I opted for the sith inquisitor sorc (DS mostly). And so far i have absolutely no regrets. You do a bit off a "errand boy" feeling. But the underdog becomes upperdog makes up for most of it:) If all the storylines are gonna be epic in their own way. I fear that i will be 100 years or older be4 i get the chance to finish em all off lol:p

This made me lol irl:) and i couldnt agree more.

I dont get why they should be nerfed in the first llace. But if they do get nerfed. Then ffs leave the pve alone. It will seriously cripple their pve abilities.