If Mako is 19 when I meet her, I'm 2 years younger. I don't want my female toons older than their men (just for these particular characters, others are different ages), so my female BH is about the same age as Torian and I think he's a little younger than Mako, maybe? Been a bit and I can't remember details. I just know everyone is about 11 yrs older in Nathema so Quinn would be 37 + about 5 years from Chapter 1, to right before I'm frozen, plus 6 years. So he's like 48 or 49 come Nathema. (Using him as an example cause he's a chapter 1 companion and I remember his age from first time meeting him to now).

I spend most of my time in my strongholds either decorating, gtning, or doing something. I only go to fleet if I need to for a vendor or during Rakghoul to explode on people or toss snowballs. This isn't like Vanilla where everyone basically had to be on fleet to get anything accomplished. Now most players can do the same things they did on fleet in other places. When you don't see any population, anywhere, whatsoever, then you can freak out. But seeing not many on fleet? I won't worry about it.

I know Nathema flashpoint has been out for over a month now, but I've been busy and couldn't write this right away. Anyway, I just want you guys at Bioware to know, at least **I** appreciated the class specific parts of the flashpoint. I say, I because I'm not sure how many liked them or didn't like them, and I don't feel like looking. So, I have done Vanilla through Nathema on all 8 classes. And all 8 classes were light sided (I do have dark and slightly neutral too who've done it, but I'm speaking about my main 8 characters). I loved the return to either old bosses we kept alive, or to their friends/acquaintances, etc who came by all pissed/annoyed for killing them or showing mercy. Seeing Darth Baras again was a big surprise (I left him alive, but stranded somewhere at the end of my original sw story). I really did love the added class specificness of those bits. Hell, I'd forgotten what choices I'd made on a number of my main 8 toons as those were the ones I'd finished back in 2012, so for me, it'd been 6 years on those particular characters, even though as of today, I have about 54 characters on two servers. I hope you guys will continue to do shout outs to our original decisions and choices that we made on the characters we continue to take through the new expansions and flashpoint stories. Also, I DO ask that when the next expansion is finally out and live, that you give our romanced companions some screen time too. It doesn't have to be hours and days long, but I do want my boyfriends, girlfriends, wives, and husbands to speak and maybe occasionally come with us on missions. I love Lana and Theron, I have two characters romancing Theron at the moment, but please don't do to us what we've gone through during the last two expansions plus the Theron story. I want to take Quinn with me on my Sith Warrior for some missions, or Andronikos with me on my Inquisitor, or Corso, etc. Not EVERY mission, but an occasional one. I just don't want only Lana and/or Theron as the sole people coming with me. And one last thing, even though you made it where we can kill off Kaliyo, Jorgan, Torian, Vette, Quinn, Koth, and Theron as love interests, or have people like Ashara, Dorne, or the other companions who could walk away, like Corso and Risha, that there ARE those of us, who KEPT our original love interests as our love interests, or chose new ones, like we chose to dump the above and romance Arcann, Lana, Theron or Koth instead. I know not EVERYONE romanced someone, or kept EVERYONE alive, or even let EVERYONE come back (like Ashara dumping the male or Dorne dumping the male if they're not happy with the choice that male character made). But just remember, we'd like more class specific items (as best as possible) and our love interests being more involved this time. I loved how Jorgan and Torian were more involved in our expansion story during KOTFE and KOTET. Please do that for the rest of the companions we're romancing or took back. Just wanted to say, that I really have enjoyed the expansions and such so far. Do I want more? YES, oh yes. But small steps are better than no steps to me personally.

Oh lawd. I died laughing. Thank god I didn't have anything to drink reading this.

I know this is the Theron thread, but you guys might have overlooked someone or you're waiting for the expansion.

I really liked it and I knew Theron wasn't 100% bad. He just needs to stop being so secretive.

While I'm annoyed at waiting even longer, it won't kill me to wait. But there really better not be ANOTHER wait after this. I get bored playing the same things over and over and while I love the game, the updates take too long to come out even if it's to add a minor thing or a major thing. Happens when one has been here almost 7 years.

I did this one each on the 8 different classes to get the achievement. There were one or two spots that were a pain in the *** to do, but otherwise, it was easy and my gear was like 190 or 200. It takes more than just gear upgrades to play the slightly more difficult items in the game. It also takes skill. I've had times where my characters were sorely ungeared and a bit underleveled and I still triumphed. I never found Copero before the nerf hard, just time consuming and I did it on dps, healers and a tank with Temple before rank 1. (Except for my agent who's Temple was rank 10). I'm kind of tired of my fellow casuals making the game easier and easier because they lack skill. You CAN be a casual and be skilled. So the whole no time or money to get better gear is BS. It's more so skill than gear. Yes, gear helps, but I could be in 500 gear (doesn't exist, I'm exaggerating), but if I stand in stupid and let the bosses whack away at me, I could still die.

Here's some information for future players and guys/girls like yourself. Beginning from KOTFE and all through right now coming up on 5.9, every single decision you make with old companions or new companions or npcs, IS REMEMBERED! Everything that came out in Vanilla, Makeb, Oricon, Revan, etc, didn't really have any actual consequences. You could be a dirt bag to someone and they'd still stay and be your buddy/pal. Now, you choose something and either npcs or companions will leave, try to kill you, send you letters, whatever. If you kill npcs or companions in 4.0 and beyond, they STAY dead. Sure, original companions that you killed can be retrieved from the terminal, but they had to have been your companion before. If you killed Senya, then Arcann dies too along the way or on Voss or wherever. If you piss off Koth and don't choose the right 'i'm sorry, I ****ed up' dialogue options, he'll leave you and take the Gravestone. If you kill Jorgan, Kaliyo, etc, they stay dead in the story. Especially if they weren't your original companion. My point is, every single thing you do or don't do beginning in 4.0 is REMEMBERED. So if you want to keep Arcann, you have to side with Senya and not kill her. If you choose to go the dark path and kill people, keep in mind, they won't be coming back. If you pick up your original romanced companion in an alert, dump them for Arcann, they remember that. This isn't Vanilla where you could do whatever you wanted without any consequences. Now everything you do or don't do is remembered and affects your story. Maybe not class specifically, but your story will be different from the next player who let Senya live and kept Arcann, but killed Koth, while you kept Koth alive but killed Senya and Arcann. Lesson learned. Now you have to redo it on another character.

See, males and females do walk differently. Not in such a way that no one can copy it, but a female has more sway in her hips naturally. Just walking from one's bed to the bedroom, a female still sways the hips a bit. And men walk differently too. They're more lumbering to a minor extent. And doesn't matter if you've changed sexes or live the opposite sex or if you're overly girly, or not very manly, the walk naturally, without thinking, won't change. Even pregnant women walk differently from non-pregnant women. You can think about how you walk to walk a certain way, but if you begin to walk without thinking much about it, the two sexes do walk differently due to bone structure, height, muscle mass, fat being deposited differently. So, whatever one wants to think, in general, men and women walk differently.

Thanks everyone. I couldn't remember if it was still for an April release or later. Appreciate it, guys!

I thought I had seen that it would be going live tomorrow, April 17th, but now I can't seem to find that date. Is 5.9 still slated for tomorrow or has it been moved back? Just would like to know. Thanks to anyone who may be able to help.

Hmm, possible, I could see Vowrawn being a man'ho. lol Gah, I need some flirty Vowrawn fiction now cause that man always makes me lol.

Way off topic, but I'm on AO3 also! I can't say outloud cause I used my real name. I may have to change it tho.

I have this feeling Vowrawn is gay. Not bisexual like Theron, Lana, Koth and Arcann, but straight up gay. There's just something about him that lends me that way. But I'm not good at that, so I'm probably a zillion miles away from thinking what he does and doesn't like. Now, Arcann? I pictured him straight, but because both sides wanted him, they made him player sexual. Which makes me sad ONLY because as I've said numerous times, I just want variety in possible LIs.

I have to say this... EEEEW, Pierce! lol I get you, but still. *sigh* Well, my characters, who are all related, except for like 10 maybe out of 54, are all light side 5 and the family (my toons) are ALL goofy goofballs. So my sw actually gets annoyed when/if Quinn is all passive around her. She prefers him questioning her motives and such. Only because even though he's NOT force sensitive, she sees him as her equal since they're married.

I don't think it does. Theron and Lana are like Salt and Pepper shakers, just doesn't work without the other. I don't know about the other million companions, but I'd assume they'd both stay with us.

Trust me, if you haven't actually read it, you'll see he's still respectful in public, but he's a normal spouse in private. Just because someone is a sith lord, doesn't mean your spouse has to be a weeny. I seriously doubt, a dark side, or light side sith warrior would marry Quinn just for him to continue to butt kiss and be all passive. That's not Quinn. I have tons and tons of characters. I've seen youtube videos, done the stories multiple times myself, etc. He might say 'my lord' in public, but he's not someone to piss off. I swear sometimes people forget how he was on Balmorra, that doesn't scream weeny to me.

I'm pretty sure it'll be an info dump in Nathema, or right after in the little room Lana hangs out at before a FP. He'll say why he did it, or why they did it, we can either boohoo at him and get all smoochy, or we get annoyed and kick him in the cajones. Either way, all the flashpoints will be for 6.0. As for which side we'll represent? I am 99.99999999999% sure it'll be the side we chose on Iokath. So if you loved the Empire on your SW, but thought 'meh, what the heck, I'll go Republic!' on Iokath, well, now you're fighting for the Republic. I could be wrong and we stick with what we've been since Vanilla, empire vs republic, you a sw are empire til you die. *shrug*

I believe the double, triple, centerium agent story itself will end with Nathema, but all that crap from Umbara, Copero and now Nathema will be completely addressed in 6.0. How did I come to this conclusion? It's simple, in Forged Alliances, we first meet Theron and Lana with the 3 or 4 flashpoints that it was Revan. Then we have Rishi and Yavin 4 with those two and the crap we dealt with for Revan. Then they met us again on Ziost which began the oh noes, the tadpoles! with Valkorian/Vitiate/Emperor and we got the looooooooooooooong two expansions on Zakuul and Odessen. So even though we have 2, going on 3, flashpoints right now, Umbara, Copero and soon Nathema, it's going to set it up for 6.0. 5.10 maybe be like a Ziost type of deal, or it's just a patch for more companions. I truly, TRULY believe that Lana is in on the 'traitor' thing. Remember what she did on Rishi? Yeah, Theron doesn't wipe his butt without Lana there knowing about it, and vice versa. So, even though she put on a big show of 'oh no he didn't!!' about him being a 'traitor', what makes me pissed off, is that neither of these two told us, the Commander of the Alliance about it. Either they personally don't really like us cause we're dark 5 and evil, or they think we'll go and tell mommy because we're light 5. The neutral players, meh pick one. So, when I see Theron again, I am definitely not going to kill him, or banish him, but I hope Bioware gives us an option to punch him like I did to Koth for putting a Quantum bomb on the Gravestone.

They're not going out of business. It's just a sale. Good lord, you make it sound like they're kicking us to the curb tomorrow.

I wouldn't mind making a toon on that server. Back in the old days when content was actually tough. It wasn't omg hard, just way tougher than now. Had to wait til Tatooine to get our speeders, etc. I'd make one toon to try this server out.

Hmm, don't know. I know DURING the story (kotfe/kotet) Jorgan was helping train people and Torian was doing whatever he said he'd do. But you'd think Gault would be around Hylo. Vette was saved on my SW only and left to die on everyone else (I like Torian better) and the only ones I see, aside from Lana, etc, are Corso, Ashara, Risha, and Vector. I don't even see Andronikos and we got him in the same patch as Corso and Risha. I DO have the ability to go looking for all 40 companions, because I took one of each class through all the expansions and patches. It's just annoying.

So, I have a question. Is it ONLY alliance alerts that are in our base on Odessen? I know Theron, Lana, Senya, Arcann, T7-01 and Koth are there who aren't alerts. And of course, people like Hylo, but where's everyone else? I found Ashara, Corso, Risha, and Vector in my base, just chilling, but I didn't see Andronikos. I don't see Jorgan, Quinn, Dorne or Torian. Or even Vette and Gault. I do see my Star Fortress companions and a ton of alliance alerts I did. My base is 20/20/20/20, so um...where's the other people I met and accepted into my base/alliance? I'd say it were only Love Interests, but then where is Quinn, Dorne, Torian, Andronikos, Jorgan and Vette? Could you guys put them in my base(s) too? Cause if they are original companions for that class and I've recruited them, I'd like to see them. Thank you.

I'm not into Zenith. He's alright. But I'm not into Twi'leks at all. I find them ick. Don't get me wrong, Vette is aces with my female warrior and they're friends, but romance? No. I like Tharan because he's brilliant and I had him with me since Nar Shaddaa (cause baaaaaaaaaaaaaaack in the day, he was my only healer and I'm a er, forgot what they call Consular versions of Assassins). He was always flirting and charming with me, like Doc is/was to my Jedi. I LOVE intelligent men myself. My real life husband is a jack of all trades (he can cook and sew with a sewing machine, and do plumbing, electrical work, car work, etc) and he's a computer god. I trust no one, not even Bill Gates or Steve Jobs with a computer compared to my husband. But as much as I like Iresso, cause he's not a bad guy, he's just not as brilliant or scientific-y like Tharan. Iresso is NOT stupid, but he's not a scientist or doctor, or military strategist like Quinn. So I kind of find him a tiny bit boring.