Was it really worth it to necro post this thread to point out the already agreed upon and established fact that it was *NOT* a scam? But thanks anyway for your contribution, Captain Obvious

Much better than BioWare's version for sure :eek:

Sorry all the Customer Service (all 5 of them) are off for 1.5 months of Xmas Holidays In the mean time, why not buy some instant level 60 item for only 18.99$

Original Post: 01.07.2012 , 09:18 PM OP Advanced_Decoy Last Activity: 01.08.2012 Nice necropost :D :D

IKR, how dare those paying customers criticize their holy work!

Good because you won't get anything else from this game for a while now Frankly, if this game wasn't about Star Wars it would have failed big time

True, the only thing E.A. was successful on constantly delivering over the past years is disappointment

^ this It was interesting reading that conversation

ITT: People being happy for being able to faceroll / AFK during any sort of combat circonstances during their "journey" I would suggest to all those happy facerollers that you could also just watch a movie or read a visual novel or book instead of "playing" this video "game". Oh well. Now that you can be lv50 after the 3rd planet and still rock on with lv10 gear with 0 difficulty ever (making gear collecting 100% boring and useless, that's the RPG part for ya) all the while being alone 24/7 (that's the MMO part ) people can see the glaring flaws of this "story-driven where choices matter" roadmap when everyone attains "endgame" (more like The End) and realize there is nothing left to do

They were not making enough $$$ with that model Get ready to only see Aliance Packs from now on, since people are readily happy to throw hundreds of $€£ on those packs to get those 0.5~2% drop rate gold mounts/armors

Did you forget that it's still E.A. who got the publishing rights on Star Wars video games? Did you forget that they managed to screw another series recently? (the new Battlefront) So long as they're the right holders they'll keep publishing turds

The Force is strong in this one.

AND I love both of you ahah. I wish I could give upvotes or put you on follow like on GameFaqs, it makes reading threads much more fun when I stumble upon those kind of posts. So fun but also so sad and true

Another awesome post from Ghisallo. Better written than I could dream of (well, I ain't a native english speaker so yeah) I wish he was 'promoted' into a fully fledged yellow poster ala green MVPs on Blizz's forums for instance. He's way more useful than them ahah Also, kudos for trying to resonnate with that CrazyCT dude

L O L Most of the yellow posters from back then either got fired or gave notice You can easily see this if you look at the old posts from back then 99% of the time the yellow posters are no longer active I actually got modded pretty often for meaningless things (such as posting this EPIC CM FAIL in my signature ) but nowadays if there are 5-6 yellow posters still active it will be a miracle. They also closed the Customer Service forum, putting it into Read-Only mode Don't blame the customers who yelled at the vendors for being frustrated with the product they paid for in the first place (before they went F2P) It's not that they got chased but more like they're super understaffed due to ressource cuts AND because if they did give some sort of roadmap they'd either have to have something planned to be released / developed in the first place, and in that case actually respect their schedule Or just flat out lie like they did before

- an invisible Root after a Stun, so I'm unable to roll/Mad Dash; Happens often -People Standing next to me but don't get hit by my Smash; Happened quite often when I played the smash marauder spec in early 2012; it's server latency Made me pretty frustrated with that issue, part of the reason I had quit at the time lol -abilities reacting slow, can't use Medpack or CCs (or attacks do not work after a Stunbreak for half a second); often I get almost stun locked for a couple of seconds and even if I SPAM THE CRAP OF MY KEYBINDS, I will still die during that lag / slowdown (at the same time I get down to 13-19 fps) and no ability will fire off, often the 'pvp trinket' ability will not fire off for like 1-2 seconds (often enough for me to just die like a worthless noodle) ^ the more crap happneing around, the less FPS you get and the more ability lag See this quote from Horrid FPS! thread #8 from before they locked the Customer Service forum -Stunbreaking out of a root, or using the Operative's Threat Drop to cleanse it, rolling afterwards, but getting bugged back to where you rolled from; It often happened on my Marauder that despite using its jump (Leap) on someone, I'd just get 'teleported' back to where I was rooted, another instance of server lag -Charging in general...only closing half of the distance most of the times; don't forget that often you'll charge and your target will just move away during the travel time, reminds me of that useless Force Choke & Ravage animation,; often during the channeling your target will be unaffected and just go away (happens most often IF YOU DARE move too much / too stutterily trying to get in melee range to cast those damn abilities in the first place, in which case they'll bug out, been that way since day 1. Only way to prevent this crap is to move, stop for 0.5 sec and THEN cast those abilities ) Hero Engine™ + crappy servers = By the way, the PvP forum is as active as yellow posters so you better post your issues in General Discussion instead, if it doesn't have that much to do with PvP. You will get much more responses

Found one of the references on this topic here in the last topic about "Horrid FPS!" (I think they got about 6 or 7K posts on the issue from way back in november 2011 in the span of 6 or 7 capped threads with 1K posts in each ) Reading some old posts about Ilum's framerate 'performances' was heartwarming

It has been speculated for a while that the game fails to renders higher than 20-25 fps during combat because of the huge amount of animations, FXs, sounds, textures etc it has to load on the fly and its dual 32 bits .exe processes actually doesn't help at all, making one max out at 2GB vram while the other is idle Or, it could be some weird SWTOR servers issue; such as they fail to send data fast enough (and you can't fix it by being on cable wired internet, it's on their ends) Or just the game that fails to load everything fast enough like any modern day engine. (they actually BOUGHT the Hero Engine back in 2005 BEFORE completion under the because they were in a hurry and thought they could complete it on their own They actually refused help from the original Hero Engine devs and they (the Hero Engine devs) actually said they couldn't recognize the engine anymore with all the "optimizations" BioWare did to it ) That's why you can get higher FPS in lowbie Warzones: Players have less abilities they can use continuously: thus the engine has less to load on the fly constantly. That's why being solo questing allows you to keep high FPS because the only non AI controlled entity using abilities is you, and you alone (unless by some miracle you're around another real human player ) That's why in Flashpoints & Operations you can achieve much higher FPS than in Warzones: You're only 4 (or 8) real players fighting the preloaded AI scripts. That's why they made Ranked PvP into 4vs4 Arenas: Less stuff to load and smoother FPS

Sample of FRAPs benchmarks I took from whole warzones before I quit: Outside of Warzones I'm rocking 60+ FPS constantly. Even when jerking around at the Fleet Intel i7 4700HQ 2.4GHz (boosted to 3.2 GHz with Turbo Boost) Nvidia GeForce GTX 850M 2GB DDR3 8 (2x4) GB DDR3 RAM 7200 RPM 1TB HDD + 24 GB SSD Can run Skyrim, GTAV, Guild Wars 2, Final Fantasy XIV, Divinity Original Sin, and so on and so forth at high+ in 1920x1080 at 60+ FPS easily SWTOR Unleashed, setting affinity to half cores or priority to High or removing Vsync and setting everything to low does nothing. I ordered a i5 6600K 3.5 GHz (3.9GHz boosted, can be oc'd to 4 or even 4.5 GHz) & a GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB DDR5 + 8 GB DDR4 RAM desktop, but I sure as hell won't play this when I will be able to play Battlefront 4, Crisis, Farcry, Gta V or Guild Wars 2 or Witcher 3 (which I couldn't get higher than 40 FPS on my above rig ) at ULTRA settings with 80~110 FPS easily

Funny how this is posted in the PvP section yet we didn't see any Warzone footage Even with a 4.5 GHz i7 6700K & a TITAN X card the game will still drops down to 15-25 fps during combat in Warzones.

What, you didn't love receiving snowballs every day, all day long?

Well, the playerbase has shrinked by what, 50? 75%? They also fired lots of staff (devs, yellows on forums, customer service outsourced etc) They reduced the content develivery a lot (from 8 class stories to 2 factions story to only one story with "choices that matter " ), raids and pvp maps? Where? The only thing they succeeded at delivering was increasing the amount of bugs, exploits and broken content (It's even more funny when it affects the same freaking annual event they "release" every year ). Oh, and release new and new packs on the Cartel Market How do you think they make money huh. By cutting every cost down to the brink and increasing the amount of things you can pay for (and believe me, there are a LOT of people who pay for those things, especially since they release more fancy stuff on the CM than ingame ) If the game had stayed a subscription based one AND they didn't do server mergers (TWICE) 6 months down the line, the game would have been (read: stayed) dead for sure. It's the F2P cash shop model (and reduction of costs) that allowed them to be even. Not sure they're effectively making a clear profit though, from what the earning calls state they're barely even EDIT: Ghisallo beat me to it. Game is pretty much on maintenance mode now yeah, to maximize profit

^This.

Yeah it's quite funny to see the framerate drops like a rock everytime you open an UI menu and jump back to full if you press the 'Hide UI' keybind too When you see people with killer CPUs with 4+ or even 4.5 GHz, game installed on SSD and /or caching in 32 GB of cache files into their DDR4 RAM with SWTOR Unleashed... AND STILL GET 20-25 FPS IN WARZONES :eek: Tells me that it's not worth the money / heat / power consumption lol