You are aware that from all stuff related to Revan present in the game, Drew K. was responsible ONLY for the Maelstorm Nebula prison flashpoint? All other stuff like the Revanites and the Foundry are not his work - he didn't write any of these (though probably helped a bit with them or rather coordinated with the other writes making sure they don't retcon each others' stuff). So the fact that he left BioWare does not affect probability of Revan reappearing later on the future.

Bash me all you want but I love Vitiate's character. He is just so b.a.d.a.s.s, as for me he fulfils the role of evil, creepy and mysterious antagonist very well. I like the way he speaks in the game, his lines sound really awesome. After reading Revan novel and playing through both JK along with SW storylines I can say that BioWare did more than decent job on him (according to me at least). He is more than that. He is a void!

Engine could be better optimized, yes that is true (or rather BioWare should have chosen another engine to begin with but there is nothing they can do now so don't expect them to admit that their engine sucks because it could potentially affect their future profits). Still, it is not like because of the damn engine you can't play the game. I don't have such a great rig and I don't face any issues in any other location than Ilum during peak time. Yeah, loading takes a bit longer than it should but hey, after game loads it runs smoothly. Until there are less than shall we say 40 people on your screen, game runs just fine. What BioWare should do is remove huge world pvp battles because engine just can't handle them unless you have really, really good comp. And they advertised that you will be able to play SW:TOR on some very old rigs without any problems. Revamp Ilum and make it a 16v16 Warzone that lasts longer and is still same as Ilum - you do objectives there and all. Or if they are so keen on keeping world pvp, reduce the number of people allowed in one instance of Ilum at the time and thus the problem is solved.

Lol, didn't know about that. I never was much into the Legacy era stuff. Though that Abeloth thing seems interesting, have to read up more about it. And who or what is Celestial btw? Opposite of Abeloth or what?

You can't avoid being sadistic and evil if you are married to Jaesa bro... So either Vette instead of Jaesa (which I personally think is more interesting and more likely relationship) or SW won't have an easy life with his maniac, psycho wife.

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For the first few weeks after finally obtaining valor rank 60 (before this recent insane wz valor rank gain boost) I had ratio of about 1:15 commendation per bag. For the last two weeks I swear, I got commendation in like every damn bag. I think that in the last 10 BM bags I opened I got one commendation in all of them lol... Thought they buffed the drop rate - guess not.

Rofl nice, and I just managed to get full BM set on my main after months of crying and sweating... :> Oh well, it was kind of predictable tbh.

Any plans to implement pvp competitive arenas in the future? Like EVER, not necessarily any time soon because we already get rated warzones in 1.2 and we can't have everything at once right?

I think we can all agree that this game is mainly focused around storytelling. BioWare stated many times that pillar of the story is very important for them. Well, in most RPG's like for example KotOR 1 and 2 you are able to choose multipe dialogue options during conversation with NPCs. In SW:TOR you are not able to do that. You have three options and if you want to ask NPC something else, you just can't do it. Well, actually you can. You just simply press "ESC" button and do the whole conversation three times until you hear all NPC's answers for yourself. I would like to be able to hear them without pressing the damn "ESC" button. Please allow us to choose more than one dialogue option during conversations with NPCs!

As the title of thread says: Why is it not possible to have hood and mask switched ON at the same time? This is really huge issue for me, I loved the look of NPCs/player characters back in beta when they had an option to wear their hood and mask together at the same time. As an example: Revan, Darth Marr - these characters look way more awesome with hood AND helmet. Why BioWare removed this is beyond me. Check out some vids on youtube back from beta and see for yourself how cool it looked. :<

As I said, during the last SW class quest on Corellia you get to free so called "The Entity". Whether she is Kreia or not remains to be seen - noone can be certain. Only speculations, but it is very likely given information about her from the codex entry. "Centuries long dead sith who held galaxy by its throat and almost eradicated the jedi order". Kreia used the exact same words back in KotOR 2 when asked by player about her allegiance.

Jedi Knight hands down. It's great for all KotOR fans and you do the most possible heroic things. I don't even remember how many times I saved the galaxy. It could be like 20 or more... Played 3 storylines so far (JK,SW,BH). All were great but JK was the most epic one (for me at least).

Wow, great vid. Are you the one who made it? If yes, Kudos to you sir (or kudos to the one who made it). Loved the way author combined all the dialogue from KotOR 2 related to Arren Kae. As for Kreia's blood line in SW:TOR - noone knows. It is possibile that we will find out more when or rather if the character of the entity is explored in the future. Though I think it is safe to assume that Brianna/Handmaiden from SW:TOR is ancestor to at least one jedi in today's order. Canon states that she became a jedi after being trained by Meetra and then helped to rebuild it/train future jedi knights. If it were not for jedi exile and all companions from KotOR 2 - there would probably be no jedi order present in SW:TOR.

I personally loved Revan's voice, it really fits the character.

Don't mistake strength for numbers. Having big armies and fleets eliminates the element of surprise and deception. Rule of two is all about slowly and patiently pulling strings from the shadows thus progressively gaining influence and power. Just read Bane trilogy and you will understand everything about the rule of two and its potential. Also, Bane believed that when there were so many sith present, they had to share their power among each other. Think of it like of cake. With only two sith, they could have the whole cake for themselves. Eat more = be more powerful.

I remember playing KotOR back when I was just a kid... man I think it took me like a year to complete it (at that time I was playing like few hours per week hehe). I guess that is why I love this game so much... sentiment and old memories. It is basically big part of my childhood. Also on a side note, want to hear a funny story? I had a teacher in school who was called Malak. I always lol'd at that and I will probably remember that guy for the rest of my life.

/Sigh is it so hard for some people to understand that when GL stated this, Vitiate was not present in the star wars lore? Hell, it is possible that he was not even "sketched"/thought of back then.

Exactly, that is what makes this class so good for solo combat. In 1v1 he is just unkillable. Few days ago I did warzone on my fresh level 50 sentinel with 12k HP. I attempted to capture side base on civil war and just ***** one guy who was defending that base (oh, he was a war hero btw, so he probably had full BM gear...).

Nah, you are missing the point. The problem with marauders is that at the moment they are better than juggernauts in almost every aspect. Juggernauts should in theory be more resilient than marauders - that is far from true, marauder's survival CD's are much, much better. I even would risk saying that immortal spec juggernaut got worse CD's. If marauder stacked normal defense stats with shield in his offhand, he would be better than juggernaunt in terms of survival. If you are saying that this is intended and that without those CD's you would be squishy... well, not sure if serious. What are juggernauts supposed to say? Sure, they wear heavy armor but still die like a damn flies. Mobility (predation, vanish), insane sustained damage (most likely best in the game at this moment in time), 'bloodlust' buff for whole party, self healing (once again for whole party) - Marauder is just better than his other advanced class counterpart in almost every aspect. As for damage, the difference is colossal for single target sustained dps. Only thing related to damage that juggernaut is good at is spamming aoe smash in rage on all procs and doing hollow, useless dps.

It is OP as hell, as are marauders in 1v1/solo duel. Yeah I know that they supposingly suck when it comes to team play. So? I guess that means that they are fine and do not deserve any nerfs. Nice logic right here... they are underpowered in one aspect so lets not nerf them even if they are ridiculous in another. Nerf. Then buff/give them something useful for team play. Nuff said. Thank you for your attention.

Don't worry, before the Clone Wars series end he will once again be cut in half and hopefully this time end up being dead for good.

What?

Right, they are immature because they have another opinion on the matter than you and thus are not entitled to their own personal opinion nor are allowed to freely express it. Some people may like the way Revan was dealt with, other... not necessarily. You think that his story was handled perfectly and should remain as it is - cool, I respect that. But you should also respect what I think. It is called: maturity, as you ironically said yourself. Now back on topic, the best way to do it would be: let TOR be on its own and keep Revan away from it. Players are supposed to be the heroes of TOR, not Revan who had his own game. All right, I get that and it is kind of true - we are the new Revans. BUT... instead of expanding Revan's story in MMO, dear BioWare - do the thing that all KotOR/Revan fans want you to do and release next-gen RPG KotOR 3, end Revan's story with an awesome finale! As a result: everyone is happy and lives longly and happily ever after.

Lord Vitiate: the ultimate ****** or the mary sue-like character? Before you even consider to join this endless debate, I strongly suggest you make yourself familiar with this following short text: Q: Who’s stronger – Darth Bane, Darth Revan or Darth Vader? A: It’s a tie. Seriously, I can’t answer this. First, it’s not really up to me to make that kind of call. Second, it really depends on the situation. You can probably find rule books for various Star Wars role-playing games that will give you stats allowing you to compare relative strength. But from an artistic and dramatic standpoint, this kind of question has no “right” answer. Each character has strengths and weaknesses, and they grow and change as their stories progress. On any given day, at any given time, under any given circumstance anyone can win or lose. That’s what dramatic conflict is all about. Source: Drew Karpyshyn's website FAQ Now, to begin with - I am aware that George Lucas, the creater of Star Wars universe stated the following fact: Palpatine is the most powerful sith lord to ever live. Period. So this sentence alone should technically disqualify all arguments against Vitiate being superior to Sidious. Lucas has the final say in those things. On top of that, let me show you some direct quotes from the official canon sources: "The Rebels were turning out to be more troublesome than many had expected. The Emperor had known it would be thus, of course; the resistance had not been a surprise to him. The Emperor was completely in concert with the dark side of the Force. He was the most powerful Sith to have ever existed." -- Death Star, page 76. Emphasis mine. "...Yoda could not hope to defeat the most powerful Sith Lord in history." -- The New Essential Chronology, page ??? (I don't own the book). Emphasis mine. "Beyond the vision of the Jedi Knights, somewhere within the darkness, the greatest master of evil ever to use Sith power bides his time. As his strength grows, his plans begin to shape the course of the galaxy, and his snares await the unsuspecting." -- The Complete Visual Dictionary, page 72. Page 109 from the Dark Empire sourcebook: "Palpatine has risen from the dead. The most powerful Sith Lord who ever lived had returned." But hold on... When Sidious was labeled as the 'most powerful sith lord ever', Vitiate's character was not even invented yet. You have to realize that the Star Wars universe is constantly expanding - some stuff will get retconned to lesser or greater extent. It is inevitable. As the time passes, some new, far more powerful character than Vitiate might be created. Noone is arguing with that. Actually that is the whole point I am trying to make here. But for the time being, just read "Revan" novel and play through Jedi Knight's whole storyline and after you do those things ask yourself who is really more powerful - Vitiate or Sidious. Here is some very intriguing quote from codex entry related to the Emperor and his ultimate plan: Every decision the Sith Emperor has made for the last millennium has been in the service of one dark goal: the complete annihilation of every living thing in the galaxy. The Emperor's desire is not destruction for its own sake, however. He is not a nihilist. The Emperor intends to feed on the galaxy's extinction and draw that energy into himself, giving him true immortality--and a godlike mastery of the Force. The Jedi can only speculate on what the Emperor will do if his plan succeeds. Does he intend to preserve any followers, or live on alone? With such unlimited power, could he plant the seeds of life and raise a new galaxy from the old one's ashes? Basically the Emperor wants to exterminate every living being in the galaxy by performing a ritual that will begin on the planet Belsavis. He will consume entire life present on Belsavis and after that, nothing will stop him. Of course Jedi Knight i.e. the player stops him. If Vitiate's plans would succeed and if he would have managed to sustain his ritual by ensuring the death of trillions, he would become as it says in the codex: godlike. After you find out more about the Emperor you realize what kind of creature of pure evil he is. The way he speaks, everything about him is just terrifying and causes chills to go down your spine. I mean, he killed a sith lord when he was like what, twelve years old? When he was an infant, his eyes were filled with terrible blackness and void (Wth?! Seriously, how sick and creepy is that?). He is unlike any being that was ever born, when Lord Scourge who was a Sith Lord took a not even second long glimpse at the Emperor, he cried out like a child. Let me give me you some quotes from the "Revan" novel about Vitiate: "As he spoke, the dark circles of his eyes seemed to fill with a swirling red mist, and for a brief instant the Emperor gave Scourge a glimpse of his true self. Scourge cried out in anguish as the Emperor's mind brushed against his, then he collapsed to the floor, shaking like a child." "Scourge expected them to search him, or at least instruct him to turn over his weapons. But Yarri and the others simply stood at attention, waiting for him to enter. The fact that they showed no concern over letting an armed Sith Lord speak to the Emperor face-to-face without any kind of preparation was a testament to the Emperor's unfathomable power. " Some of his abilities on top of my head: - Being able to perform most complex sith rituals ever attempted (consuming life of the entire planet - billions of lives beings destroyed in matters of seconds). - Being immortal? "My life spans millennia. Legions have risen to test me. […] My ascendance is inevitable. A day, a year, a millennium—it matters not. I hold the patience of stone and the will of stars. Your striving is insignificant. Let your death be the same." - The Sith Emperor, to a lone Jedi sent to kill him. Also from what I understand, it is almost impossible to completely kill the Emperor. His essence will always live on, attempting to find another host it can possess. For sure the Emperor got some weakness that can be exploited in order to defeat him, as everyone, but noone knows what it is yet. - Being able to mind control pretty much anyone (though it is possible to resist the Emperor, as an example: Revan being the proof of that). I mean, don't get me wrong: Sidious definitely achieved a lot with his political capabilities, intellect and manipulation skills. But it's hard to be sure that he was more powerful than all other ancient sith lords who ever lived, or even his former master Darth Plagueis. Plagueis discovered the ultimate secret of immortality - Palpatine did not. Hell, Plagueis could even bend midi-chlorians to his own will in order to create life out of nothing - and he probably created the most powerful force user to ever exist. Palpatine knew that he could lose face to face duel with Plagueis so he used his cunning to kill him in his sleep. Also, I find it hard to believe that Palpatine could be even a match for Lord Vitiate. We know very little about the Sith Emperor (the TOR one) and yet it seemes that he is capable of wiping out entire life in the galaxy. I don't think Palpatine comes even close to that, all he gets are some over powered abilities that I do not know where and how he managed to learn/obtain. Sometimes I get the feeling that in Expanded Universe, Palpatine is really a mary sue-like character. Seriously, who can create hyperspace wormholes? Sidious in EU is just absurd. I am sorry to say this but it is true. I love his character but some authors just crossed the line. Yes, Vitiate got some OP abilities in his arsenal as well, but I would say that his back-story allowes us to imagine that he is actually capable of such prowess. A for Palpatine that is not the case, at least for me. You also have to look at this from another angle. Lets say that Sidious could defeat Vitiate in face to face duel (or the other way) but what about other skills? Palpatine managed to transform the Republic into his own Galactic Empire and at the same time do something no sith ever managed - wipe out almost entire jedi order. Vitiate on the other hand also accomplished something to behold. He escaped with handful of morally broke people and over the course of thousand years managed to create the most powerful empire to ever exist. He created entire civilization from literally nothing. It all comes down to your very own definition of power. Power can vary a lot you know... Also, I think it is safe to assume that the Galactic Empire from the original Star Wars movies is based on Vitiate's Empire. I know that in reality it is the other way around, but in our fantasy world The Great Galactic war occured way BEFORE The Galactic Civil war. I tried to keep this article/debate as non-biased as possible, attempting to show you both sides of the picture but as you probably noticed by now, my personal opinion on this matter is as following: Sidious is overrated. There you go, I said it! I know I may get bashed for this. If you want to call me a Vitiate fanboy, feel free to do so. I just think that he is the one who deserves the title of the most powerful sith lord. He is the ultimate ****** - nothing to add here. To hell with being objective! It is impossible to avoid some dose of subjectivism. Just two small things I noticed that I wanted to add to the whole discussion: If Palpatine is so mighty and exceptional duelist, how come he lost to Mace Windu? Yes, I know that Windu is "one of the finest swordsman of the jedi order" and all. But still, Sidious lost. And don't tell me that he would have won without Anakin's interference because it is clearly not what movie portrays. Also, some people say that Palpatine's 'lightning bolts' are the most powerful ones in whole SW universe. It's one of the arguments for Palpatine's superiority over Vitiate. I mean, really? He electrocuted Luke Skywalker with them for like half an hour and the guy still managed to survive. And no, Palpatine was not playing with Luke or attempting to influence his will. He decided to kill Skywalker because he understood that he could not turn him to the dark side, this line kind of confirmed that: "The Emperor: And now, young Skywalker... you will die." (at least that is how I interpreted this scene from RotJ). Anyway, just read what I wrote before about Sith Emperor, (information coming from OFFICIAL GAME CODEX). Could Palpatine really become godlike like Vitiate and create new galaxy from the ashes by himself? Could he wipe out entire life in the galaxy? I don't think those statements are mere hyperbols. I mean, while they never actually happened, Vitiate indeed had potential to perform them and was in fact very close in doing so if it weren't for the invervention of Jedi Knight. And most important of all, was Palpatine really immortal as well as Vitiate? Immortal meaning actually IMMORTAL - from what I know he needed to use clones in order to prelong his life (I don't know a lot about EU post EP6 tbh so I may be wrong about that). I know I am repeating myself but when you read "Revan" novel and play through JK's storyline you get this feeling about the Sith Emperor - he is like this terrible being of pure darkness and void, almost not human but monster. You don't get the same feeling with Palpatine (at least I don't feel this way about his character). Palpatine is just an ordinary person (well, you know what I mean). I am not saying that he is not a powerful sith lord who accomplished A LOT, but to me he is clearly not even half as 'terrifying' as Vitiate. I am pretty sure that it is BioWare's intention to make us feel that Vitiate is in fact the most powerful, evil and dangerous sith/living being to ever exist (including the movies and all post EP6 expanded universe). Still, as I said before - it all comes down to your subjective opinion and the way you interpret canon lore. It's a fantasy world, you can think whatever you want! As far as I am concerned, you may claim ewok that helped Leia (was he called Wicket?) to be more powerful than both Vitiate and Sidious together.