How should he get new people to come out ?

Are people that amazed that a place so over engineered isnt working as a world pvp location?

THere is a big difference in the way those things are attained though. Which is what makes people want something over another.

Quick fallacy, there is in fact a shared server atmosphere such that towns are areas where people congregate but it isnt a huge multi server setup like wow or this game. Side note: contuing to post about GW2 here will not accomplish anything for you or the people that like it (such as myself). We know what think it will be and that is the light on the hill. Now is the light a beacon or a warning light we wont know until its released but, its not "theme park" its a Sandbox, and we havent had a good sandbox in forever.

Im hoping they make a World for pvp that is as big as one of the pve zones. Mostly it was a holder to GW2 and if it was good enough i would play it with gw2 but that doesnt seem to be the case.

While i cant argue with that description (well maybe i can with WAR) but they did really "try" to get pvp people to come saying there will be open world pvp. Since they took over Mythic i would have hoped they saw the flaws in WAR and DAoC and done something to take the good from it. Im not even sure we made it to the same level as War, which says something.

People only left daoc when they added ToA and it became a gear grind (literally as you had to level artis). I wont argue that in the time that wows been out it has been polished to a higher mirror shine. I would argue that it was alot of fun to attack different places before bgs became the focus of game play.

After we got the DR and 1 min immunity and dispels, i dont think it was that bad. At the beginning sitting there long enough to get a drink was pretty lame. Not to mention Stunguard. I agree though people cant handle 4 sec now imagine those 9 sec stuns and 70 sec mez

Yet everywhere i go i see people clamoring for this game to be released or after something that says well have wrold pvp and it will be different than (insert previous pvp/wow refrence here) we all flock to it in hopes of reliving that game. Maybe DAoC and other games like UO and AC spoiled us thinking that pvp would be this way and that somebody would look at those games and say:

Id sooner be healing (and will be)

I must have missed the buff portion. Could you show me where the buff is?

Where is he talking about maul at all? He was making a reference to the wow rogue. And if you dont think something like Force Cloak or Sprint makes a huge difference to ToT you are deluding yourself. You seem like the classic person who hates stealth because they can choose the fights they want and how they want to take advantage of the situation at the moment it is least favorable to you.

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He doesn't actually want to pvp is why he wants brackets.

DAoC had no such problem (until ToA)

I would guess most Original ops are not.

50k? ***

Stealth is a gap closer with limitations. No combat, not beeing seen, and not being aoeed out of stealth. Now im sure youll comeback with well use vanish. Vanish has limitations. No dots, 2 min CD talented. Now we can look at the other gap Closers, Sprint, charge, pull. All of which work in combat. Sprint when talented even removes movement impairing effects. Being able to open on who we want allows us to control how and when we fight. However, it also can put us in a predicament, being further away from team mates that may help us by healing or interrupting. In world pvp of course this doesnt matter as most fights are 1v1 or 1v1 +4 mobs. Marauders and sentinels get much needed group buffs and very heavy defensive capabilities that ops DO NOT get. This is what we call trade offs. Feel free to say that im spreading misinformation about my class though.

It would be much more subtle that you just came and stabbed the **** out of someone thats for sure at least in a scrum. Depending on what you want to do you could shift points around into the End talent or the Posion= extra damage talent.

Use it mainly for running up in a group in alderan. or defending a node so it looks clear. Its not useful for much else

it would be my guess that you are correct. Until we can actually see the numbers in the game via a log to not just hypothetically guess what the numbers would be under perfect circumstances ops may remain under this new system. While the changes are not overly oppressive by any stretch of the imagination, they do hurt both pve dps and pvp dps. While we were able to get large amounts of damage in on people in the opening the damage. I didnt see any videos of people posting their massive lacerate damage. Being an average geared op (some end game 4 man some pvp) The only things that got really annihilated were under-geared (see low level) people. Average gear put up a fight or just ran away (or didnt pay attention to me while trying to kill team mates). Well geared players ignored me entirely because i wasnt a threat to them at all. Well see what happens. Its not suprising that people see flashy numbers and big hit and scream nerf. Other big hitting chars do their damage subtly by doing the burst at the end of the players life. Fooling them into thinking they had a chance in the first place

If you didnt see that a nerf like this was coming i dont know what to tell you my fellow ops. This was the classic knee-jerk many of us were expecting when videos of damage against low armored under-geared players while stacking everything under the sun came out. I am a bit miffed as to the lack of increased damage from other sources or something else to make more effective in combat (both pve and pvp) with the loss of damage from jarring and acid blade. As its been said the nerf calls will still come cause now well just use 2 stuns instead of one. I wonder how long it will take before we start to see the buff Ops posts.

Im sorry you get so easily tweaked by my stating that eruos would be the most effected by this since they would have the majority of the play time as the US is at work for most of the time the patch was live. While a roll back would hurt people for that time period (using your assumption that they roll back everything and not whatever field stores valor value). It would have shown the player base that bioware cares more about fair play than what it seems they currently do. Game news sites ran with the information and people who would be considering joining would be turned off.

I dont know if it was more time and resources as much as it was just a more interesting thing to write about. The difference between the consular and the Inquisitor is pretty night and day when it comes to that story.