oh stop with this whine..it's obvious that actually sents can't reach assassin dps. beside the balance itself they have a spread system at melee range, watchmen dps actually is REALLY GOOD godammit. Combat obviously is a pure single target BURST spec. Old Focus..is still played? LoL And as other said..with a sent you can push over 1500 dps if you know how to do and ofc in a continous fight with healers etcetc..

to nerf assassins you don't need to touch dmg coefficients etc..just the spread system and imho the CC immunity. Indeed his single target overall dps is good (not op, good)

Sorry but, Defens screen? It absorbs a really good part of damage. And it has a really low CD. Plus Passive Heals. These with rolling immunity is GREAT. But with actual their damage is Balanced imho.

What i said indeed. and is not enough IMHO...there is also the CC Immunity side maybe a bit over. For sure I would not touch damage side of hatred because indeed for Pve is good and balanced. (I'm not sure but i heard watchmen is doing more? Lol)

Yeah it's a bug since 3.0 i noticed it from release.

For who is calling a buff to operatives, IMHO they are balanced. I'd call maybe a nerf about 100% immunity while rolling out..their Defens are rly strong. Defens screen too, is really good. If you increase their damage while keeping actual def, it would be too much imho.

I'd prefer A nerfed spread mechanic. Instead we can spread dots up to 8 players..just up to X players. where X is << 8. (but FIB/DF still will deal up to 8 players) Also reduce the CC immunity up time while in deflection (without touching its DCD effect duration, just the cc immunity effect) to like half the time, idk. This would be a start point. IMHO

Pre-release of 3.0 I called the nerf..

I agree about tuning down hatred and sorcs but are you really talking about DCDs of sins? Have you never seen a good operatives in action? LoL.

Infiltration is clearly more difficult to master than Hatred. But if you played Infiltration since day1 and today you want to try out Hatred is normal that it's more difficult..it's a totally different gameplay and anyway you will get practice and more proofits with Hatred quicker than Infiltration. I did that and I can confirm that

I still have to lose vs sorcs...not problems at all. (but i play in a pve server...butbbut..I'm a PvE based player too )

but he is a 2900 rated assassin! He CAN

Nor Maul because we have like..9s (forgot it) to use it..so just Assassinate

I will play serenity even nerfed..I play infiltration too. Know 2 specs is a good thing..

yeah I meant 3gcd, i counted the number of ">" instead of skills. asd

it comes from low APM or high APM discussion.

Tbh it's not really clear, wroten like this ^^' btw so basically you are desying Fb and SF by 4GCD?

I prefer much more these stats gj! 100 crit, as I said, are a bit low (weird indeed) Btw isn't alacrity almost wasted in fights with "holes"? or not continous fight as Nefra?

sorry but like what? It's totally the same, almost. Also I preffered 2.10 force sustain but it's almost the same. my feeling is that low slash is not fit right into the tree..

well to ninja you could need just the sap/lift. even with 1s of cast. yes shadow tank is better to def...who said the opposite, but aren't we talking about serenity - infiltration?

as hatred i do everything. you arethinking that I'm ignoring objectives? jsut because I play hatred? and btw I play infitlration too.

yeah you are right BUT IMHO keep taking into account just single target..if a serenity shadow has multi targets, well, it would deal even more damage. Also I'd take into account the "ideal" fight without holes etc..with experience you pick the right spec etcetc If you are coding for the optimal dps you should assume the optimal conditions, if not it is not coherent. IMHO

lol, sorry but you are really using mezzing in the mid of the fight? Like..random awe ftw? nice. Also you will thanks some serenity shadow that ninja enemy node 1vs2 because he can it easily. Also it does pressure. and in the mid of fight, it counts a lot.

btw I'm getting mroe fun playing with balance, not for the power itself but..for the gameplay..

scoundrels are fine actually..:S