Well depends..I will gear with the same gear both specs since alacrity is not used (a bit in Hatred but is not mandatory) and same augments (I think I decided to go with powers) so maximing the burst of Deception and "buffing" the overall damage of Hatred. Anyway I'm still skepytal to which augments to use tbh..and relics too. I'm not confident to use the crit relic proc.

I confirm that Deception has the same issues. Indeed it's not like a teleport but an absurd speed buff so if you have anything between you and ur target even in line of sight you can be stopped by objects. But, sometimes I managed to teleport between differents levells..simetimes I couldn't do that..I don't know..seems bit tricky :\

What about modelling a "real" burst rotation you would do in pvp to test it out? I mean, instead testing just one skill..you can cycle all the skill you playm ofc not couting stuns,cc etc

So BiS Relis are still Power and Mastery proc?

Ok it's for the overcapping stacks..ok. I don't get it anyway, why BW didn't changed our static charge system like this (an example): max static chanrges = 4/5 but still Breach is capped to use 3 as always and you can add this to prevent a "prestacking" charges: when you use Breach you reset your charges. wouldn't so great?

edit: nvm, was talking about pve!

Oh yeah? are you sure? Because we can reach easily even in pvp gear that crit chance. Have you test it out? Yes I agree, I'm curious to see an analysis about how much deviation you can have vs average dmg,etc. because for example, if I had an overall dps loss of about 1% (random low number) but with a "positive deviation" of idk 10% (another random number) I would pick, hands down, that stats. Who cares about 1% overall dps if I can have a +10% of bump burst dps (since we are talking about burst! And also because pvp is so rng)

I've just noted today that there is a "small" mistake: Divide the two DPS values: 18,219.22 DPS / 17,705.62 DPS Power augments give a 1.029% DPS increase or for simplicity's sake: 1.03% DPS increase. 18,219.22 DPS / 17,705.62 = 1.029 ~1.03 *times* so power augments give +3%, not 1.03%

Sorry but I got a bit confused to what are talking about, so: Assassinate > others or not? Also I think I didint understand what you mean with the key note: it's also better to use Discharge instead if using Assassinate would force Discharge into the Ball Lightning slot. With "Assassinate would force Discharge into the Ball Lightning slot" you mean if *** procs the 3rd stacks for Discharge? but so with "]it's also better to use Discharge instead (Assassinate)" you are telling that it's better to use Discharge, indeed, but it must have 3 stacks.. :S

Ah yes if you are in ranked arena but what if you are fighting 1on1 for example?

Ah yes if you are in ranked arena but what if you are fighting 1on1 for example?

Oh yeah this is true what if ideally, there aren't anymore these players? You still want to open with spike?

Krea, do you know if with Force Potency effect to Blast and Breach they will seen by the client as autocrits? (since we have a base of 40+% crit + 60% from FP)

Hey Aelanis, I just saw the just released 3d of theorycrafting Bis stats for pve by Goblin and It's nice that your results are almost the same! I have a question tho: Rotation: Filler* (Priority List) Filler* = Discharge > Ball Lightning > Assassinate > Maul > Voltaic Slash > Saber Strike References: Aelanis, TACeMossie If I remember well, long time ago, in a certain 3d, you have written that Assassinate MUST BE used at CD, no matter what, even at 3stacks of Discharge (this point I'm not sure to remember well) but I'm sure you gave Assassinate > Blast in the priority. So..is this an error on the goblin's calculation? or is it changed? Also, there was another "conflict" between u and Evo about using Project/Blast at CD with or without the stacks of Circling Shadows, your point was that you have to use Pr/Blast anyway, even if you don't have 2x CShadows. Is still true? Thanks in Advance

Why do you want to start with spike instead a just discharge from reck? Imho spike doesn't offer the best burst opening because its damage is meh. and what about the Discharge > Blast then everything else? So you don't delay it much. Also I still opening with Low Slash sometimes

just relog or change istance

yeah ofc I do, same is applied to Low Slash if you..I don't know get pushed far away from boss over 30m as you hit that range you can use it.

yes, ideally you can keep your DoTs always applied if you desync them well. edit: ups same time posting!

19 dps on 6100 is 0.3% and it falls into the deltaDPS(crit chance%, fight)..as Engineer, I define it "marginal", it's in my nature..so whatever I will not bother to use it at the beginning of fight But in other situations (i.e in the beginning of final phase of Brontes I always used it) too lazy to sync with the countdown of RL..i prefer to sync me to start with 2 prestacked circling shadows!

ok what if you didint use it?

give me just some examples, idk..grob fight.

ok so i reiterate my question. How much difference there is in a whole fight in terms of dps? I 'm really asking you to see it so I can understand better

No ok, I meant the difference on a whole fight..that imho is marginal.

so how much difference there is?

Yup and I agree about not using PB anymore without stacks but indeed as you got, i was talking about prestacking About using hardcast of Mind crush...idk I don't like it in op fight..just If I want to try a bit at dummy. I also feel that doing it or not doesn't change much..