Ultima Online....still has subscribers base, i dont think swtor is going anywhere.

because the esseles is seriouse buisiness....

Which is better for warrior tank, thanks you.

Need on every single thing only if you want to be... ...Server blacklisted unable to play with other players in a social mmo game, thus relegating your whole experience to a single player game with no hope of ever doing end game content, which you will continue to pay 15 bucks a month just to play by yourself. ...the butt of all jokes in general chat on your server as you are continually humiliated and made fun of for being a loot ninja This isnt wow where the lfg tool gives you anonymity to do what you want because you will never see the people that your grouping with ever again anyway. In this game you will only ever play with people on ypour server, you habve a name...ruin in and it ruins you...just like in real life do something considerred bad by the community you live in, you go to jail, or people will have nothing to do with you....same with the game, do something bad enough get you banned or people will have nothing to do with you.

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I Stand Alone

lvl 40 pvp legs, and light side vendor boots will work for the bt chest, dont know about the rest

I can name three instances off the top of my head that they shouldnt do this untill these items are fixed. 1. getting booted from game because you cant leave starting area in time 2. speeder bikes will not load in alderann map, making you get the leave starter area thing, because there no way to get back 3. when the bikes do load, many times they are bugged, freezing your toon in place and they cant get back to the fight.

they would also have to fix a huge number of pvp bugs that kick you for not leaving the starter area, like the joining in progress but kicked 5 seconds after you get there for not leaving the starter area, and the alderann speeder bikes not working..kicking you as well.

These Pvp bugs really diminish my FUN factor and need to be fixed asap. 1. Joining a match in progress but getting booted 10 seconds after it loads because you haven't exited start area...even though I'm blocked in and only been there like 5-10 seconds waiting for the door to open. 2. Upon respawn in alderann, the speeder bikes are a lot of times not there, so you cant get back to the battle and again kicked from the game because you didn't leave starter area, again because the speeder bikes have miraculously disappeared. Which leads us to... 3. When the speeder bikes are there many times when you click it to rejoin battle...it does nothing, it freezes you in place, you cant move, and it doesn't take you back to the battle, you can only wait again to be kicked back to whence you came from not leaving starter area. 4. when on the voidstar on my jedi guardian several times when using force leap on an opponent, i somehow warp physics and go through the hull of the ship, falling through space, passing nebula's by and other space debris while the stars all pass by me...on this one however i keep falling through space and never get kicked from the game, but stillnot being able to do anything till it ends. 5. lag, lag, and more lag. I do decently in the world but as soon as i enter a warzone i lag like no tomorrow. Don't see a reason why i would be good to go elsewhere but no so much here. between all these bugs i might get to finish maybe 1 game out of 5...and pray that i win that 1 just for my daily, this really detracts from my enjoyment from the game, as i'm sure there are many others it does as well. Please for the love of PvP fix these bugs.

Lost the bounty hunter heavy chest to a sith inquisitor yesterday from BT, i was like lolwut???? needless to say hes blacklisted.

Tool much? are you saying your companion comes before an active player. If so i stand by statement. This is also why server blacklist exist...people get known for doing this and no one will run with them anymore. So to the people that do this, the m,ore you do it, the faster you'll be blacklisted....so you might get a ton cool loot from black talon, but you will never ever be invited to an eternity vault, because your name is known. Remember there is no lfg tool in this game like wow.....you have a rep, get a bad one on your server and your screwed.

My assassin is only around level 15, but I've ran black talon a bunch of times, it always seems that by the time i run up to a mob its already mostly dead from all the range dps, so i might get in 1 hit, then repeat the process. No one ever says anything, and all seems fine, but i just feel a little ineffectual, i see other jedis leaping into the fray, other dps blasting from the rear...but by the time i actually walk up there...the combat is mostly done. Does anyone else feel this way?

What do you guys think Darth Vindicans spec was?