I have played roughly 8-10 MMO's however I skipped WoW.

Your sarcastic post is lost in your wall of text, break it up a bit and make it easier to read.

I personally did the full infil tree before I did the others, from there I went to the Bal tree then kin tree to finish it off.

Big time false, you want to use it, it allows you to get three stuns off on your oponent, kick, slash then force stun.

Its no suprise, they didnt listen durring closed beta any phase, they didnt listen durring open beta any phase.

NO Im on a "dead" server, PvP issues are too many to name, I voted with my wallet also and cancelled, just waiting for enough changes to happen or my sub to run out. The real part that burns me up is the fact we told them about 99% of the problems / lacking (what most of us feel is standard) features durring closed and open beta and it didnt seem to matter.

I feel your pain, on Dargon Trail its the same thing, I actually switched from IMP to Rep so I could stop playing huttball 90 times in a row.

Were reaching real deep on things to complain about today...

I agree with all of this, lets hope they continue to make strides forward and actually evolve it into something fun.

While your right your also wrong which is the beauty of the setup. Its all dependant on your team: * Focus fire * CC (without actually breaking it, a concept many dont seem to understand) * Positioning around the turret in relation to the speeder (when capping) * Body stacking / layering (harder to target) Add numerous other things you could come up with and create, Now I believe alot of this is hindered by the lack of in game voice but typing still is effective if you have a team of players with the same goal in mind which is to win. Now I would be just fine if they decided to move the speeders landing spot back 10- 20m or so but other then that I belive they would be hurting the WZ more then helping it.

I agree with this, leave it how it is.

Yes they should be able to disappear "forever", It's your responsibility to make sure you do everything you can to keep them from gaining that advantage over you, if you choose not to do so dont react quick enough or have a skill on CD then thats on you.

I am going to be running into something close to this here shortly, my IMP is decked out but its a IMP heavy server so me and some guildies have rolled some Republic players for PvP and were around 45-47 in level and I am also wondering how its going to be not gearing up with everyone and being the one who needs to aquire his gear. I am curious indeed, wondering how Ilum will play from the Republic side knowing all the Imps are doing is circle jerking the middle.

Trolls did exist, they were introduced in book 10 and at the time you could roll up to 3 trolls and 3 rangers at a time, book 11 was the purple freeple eater etc etc etc. Regardless of the flaws the moors has it is still superior to Ilum in all aspects. Jaiyne, tell Lee I say hello please.

Luc old friend good to see you post something here, As an Landroval player as well the PvP experience here has been a absolute and total letdown in many, many aspects and I will second the post you had quoted and what you are saying. On my server it is so heavy Imperial I (along with some guild members) rolled a rebel so we can atleast have a "target rich" enviroment and MAYBE actully have a good time not doing huttball 1,000 times a day in WZ's vs Imperials anyway. Now I am only back up to 40 but thus far the PvP experience (open world as well as WZ's) has been better 100 times and in a already horrible system is good but its far from enough to keep me playing as well as everyone else as well all know. I have thought about dusting off Eclipso and logging back in to Landroval lets see if that itch becomes one I absolutly have to scratch or not.

Me and some guildies switched for PvP, its pretty bad on Daragon Trail.

On my server (Daragon Trail) I got so tired of Huttball and the circle jerk of Ilum with the crates that me and a few guildies rolled some Republic toons, We figure we will have a target rich enviroment. How long till server transfers? I think we will be looking for a new server with some form of balance once it becomes avaliable.

The statements in this thread are valid and I agree with everyone, I think if they were to change Tumlit (Sp?) into a single target force push would alievate alot of the issues with keeping someone out of mele range.

haha, only if Sorc's/Sage's were wearing heavy armor I would agree. I have taken some 5k hits from tracer missle, I would say taking a hit around 2k is about normal so I would say leave the skill damage and cast time alone and increase the CD time on it.

I was hoping for unique and individual classes...

Those numbers mean nothing, I see and have seen all the DPS classes put up #'s like this.

I can think of many, many other adjustments that need to be made before this. You sure your just not tired of seeing 12 billion of them in WZ's and on Ilum?

I agree with these points, my rating would be a 4 out of 10.

The fact remains there are several things for most of the classes / variations that need some adjuments and that does not necessairly mean a nerf.

For the love of god, the game hasnt even been live for a month and people are making these totally unecessary threads. I wonder how much of a kick the employees get out of reading threads like this.