Don't worry you will be able to soon and all the legacy perks as well!

Paging Bioware Defense Force! But really im still actually irritated about that PVP Vendor speeder car you got for hardly anything and now its like 2.5 to 3 mill creds for something close to it but the republic paint job one was very cool.

I don't think anyone cared or asked who loves it or why you love it!

Well i was going more along the lines that Starfox was kinda good for what it was but what we have in this game is actually a lame version of Starfox..

But Starfox was actually kinda good.....

Its the casuals fault.... again!

Its really hard to take PVP in the game serious and generally i cant help all but to laugh at the people who do.. They pay their sub so they can play or do whatever however they want but i don't have to take part in it. I knew most wouldn't stick to it despite all the whining since 1.2 about rated. There are some really good teams out there most are super serious and are there to win and get gear for epeen and really don't like each other much cause each one is a legend in their own mind, so when they figure out that rolling pugs in recruit gear is why they win a lot they will just continue to do that while the few who will continue to do rated and succeed because they really are friends and actually like to compete and have fun and have good matches while getting to stomp the new up and coming leet epeen kids.

The community of pre CU SWG was just amazing and made the game so amazing and immersive but it had so many bugs and such that i have to go with EVE Online.

Actually I am not much of a PVEer but the model of having to run PVE content for gear should have never changed. This game is PVE centric and should require you to do its content to gear up. Even in a game like EVE that is very PVP centric the majority of the ISK grind to afford PVP is to PVE unless you are a builder or market player then its still another form of PVP. SWG without being a crafter or trader of some sorts you needed to run missions for pay in turn you get the to buy the best gear avail to you on server. PVE should always be the backbone of a games progress period, after all this is an MMO not a FPS or a crappy game with a lobby waiting for instanced battles that is FTP with a cash shop like some Hi-Rez game. I never thought i would say this as player who always ended up in some kind of PVP centric game, but the PVP community in these theme parks are just whiners and shouldn't be playing MMO's to begin with as they do nothing for the community and only segregate this games PVE/ PVP because they insist on turning any MMO no matter the size into a lobby turning PVP into a mini game and expect everyone to do the same. Plus the sense of entitlement is kind of sickening! TY Blizzard yet one more time for bringing these types to the genre that actually cheapen the MMO experience even further. Its not about adventure or going through all the games content and slowly watching your toon progress, its about mind numbing repetitive grinds and do as little as possible for the largest reward. Im not saying we should all have to raid in operations as you can put a PVE stat only in high end PVE gear but the HM FP gear should be the standard and everyone should take part if they want to progress and in the end we would have better WZ's and more open world PVP. But like i said these players spend a lot of time and energy telling us what they wont do, Wont do PVE, wont do World PVP, wont get rid of PVP magic stats, wont do it without gear progression, ect... I wish they all would go back to WoW or whatever kiddie game they have been playing!

Still mad brah? Good!!

Doing the BM grind on my 3rd alt and still working on the WH grind on my main. I could actually support this, the grind to BM is not long or even bad, its more of an annoyance than anything else, you hit like a wet noodle and explode on contact and for the most part you rely on your team mates to carry you and i think everyone hates feeling like that. Not to mention that you have to grind for different pieces for mods to optimize your gear anyway or even different sets if you change spec. So no matter what you do the grind is still there so why even bother with the recruit gear thing to begin with imo.

I love the Voidstar dividers!! Now if they would just kill that speeder to node crap in the CW.......

I don't care what that blog says or what some people say about tank gear and tank spec... Its borked! Since launch I have played Immortal spec up until about a month ago and with each patch it was getting more and more pointless. As my current spec goes using Vindicator gear cause it actually has set bonus that is useful Head,pants,gloves,boots. In the pants and boots and pants i believe change the mods dump the crit and drop in the WL defense and surge mods, use a WL belt,wrist,chest, ear and implants and offhand.. Go biochem or go home get a Rakata endurance stim. Grind out a BH/Commando and get that 5% endurance buff or make sure you have one on your team and get that buff. Learn how to stat dance and get 2 sabers one stacked with tanky stuff like endurance crystal and defensive type mods and one more based on DPS or expertise cause every situation you may enter in a WZ will change plus each healer class or dps class you guard you can adapt to it, and plus it depends on healers skill some just spread it around and just try to keep you alive while others just stay on one guy and heal them to full while everyone else is getting killed, those are the healers you are glad you have some DPS cause you can focus fire with dps and keep people alive and help the healer with work load a bit. As augs and whatever thats all kind of how what you feel you are lacking and try to find augs to fix it. You are support, you are not trying to be DPS god, you have to adapt and have gear and stim options for whatever may come, so dump all the proc crap and get real stats that effect your player all the time. My problem with full tank is that you don't have any real options outside of running around and getting ignored taunting and living between defensive CD's if the other team has enough bads to even pay attention to you. As for the spec I pretty much went with Veng as the primary and i find the root with ravage and leap actually come in handy for a cc on melee and plus kill people at the same time

Just Baseline the expertise stat and move on already. The difference in main stats and secondary stats with aug slots is kinda cool and makes things interesting, but fighting vrs the real stats and the magic stat that is expertise is just to the point of being stupid.

Lol @ op

This^^^^^^

Eclipse was main server Jedi-Gokam BH/Pistoleer- SeekAndDestroy My 3rd toon for extra unlock cause NGE was Razot Intrepid Jedi-Gokam Shipwright- random generated name 3rd unlock was some other random crafter with a random generated name Bria Commando- Xolve Valcyn Swordsman/Tkm- Jalie Flurry Tkm/Fencer- Gokam In fact i played on every server by the names Gokam,Xolve,Izaek,Razot, Either a Zab,Twi, or Rodian

I do love that sig!!!!!!

This game is based on gear progression and WZ's are not for PVP they are for entry level HM FP gear or Higher level of PVP gear.. I hate it as well but it is what it is and i just don't care anymore. I would be willing to bet you are the only guy in the whole game that thinks WZ's are for PVP...lol

Like above poster has said about the faction imbalance. Ill throw in PVP gear and high end PVE raid gear, It could work if expertise had a baseline stat or some kind of PVE only stat for PVE gear, but as of now.... Do you know how bad i destroy a new 50 with my main being in half WH/BM gear and my alt in full BM hanging around the daily areas, its sad and boring!. Open world is not structured like a WZ and there is no team its whatever and whoever you find and having all this gear progression it will never ever be close to a good fight or even fun in fact its just pointless grieving, and i played EVE for 6 years i know about having fun at the expense of others but in this game its not even close to being fun. In EVE one little crappy Frigate that costs 50k fully fitted and a 2 week old player could tackle a billion isk whatever ship and lock him down for a long time till his buddies arrive to cause some pain, or his buddies could arrive and save him and pop mr tackle frig. In Tor this could never happen so its just pointless grieving. If expertise is not the only problem as the high end PVE gear stats are just outright insane and so even if you remove expertise out of a fight you will instantly explode if you are just some guy running around with daily mod gear or TI,T2 pve gear. All adding some kind of reward to open world PVP will just bring in fight clubbing, trade killing, base camping if they have some kind of tick system for rewards like one of the NGE variations had. Open world PVP is the best PVP imo but adding any type of reward outside of faction buffs and fluff items such as tittles and stuff like that you are just asking for problems and people who will exploit every one of them. The bottom line of what screwed up open world PVP and why it does not happen very often is not because the lack of any rewards but because the game is based around gear progression and thats all we do in these type of theme parks and thats the mind set. Just go pug a group and 90% of the time they just want to bypass as many Npcs to get to the boss fights ASAP and blow throw and space bar everything as they do it for gear not fun. PVP i wont even get into that mess of gear runners in that crap fest.. Anyone with a respectable PVP background has to take a long shower and eats cookies while in the shower huddled in the corner after a few hour session cause we feel so dirty afterwards,,,, meh but its Star Wars what can you do about it you know??!!??.... SIGH! Its not the lack of will to open world PVP as the actual game design based on progression and not a type of community based living breathing economy and open world organic experience that are different from server to server, this is just a treadmill based on the shiny rewards and thats all it will ever be, so just sit back and enjoy your instances or not... Bind on pickup anyone!!!...

Its the "Casuals" fault....

This thread needs to be stickied! I fully endorse this product....

To OP the reason you get nuked so easy.. Well that would be from all the tank class players in full tank spec and gear thinking they matter or make a difference in a DPS centric game, or the hybrid specs that put guard on you and run across to the other side of the map from you. Its not a marker issue or even a L2P issue for you, sorc healers are very squishy and its more along the lines that your class requires another player to be attached to you from the hip. My RL friend in game is a sorc healer and I am a Hybrid Jugg with itemized DPS/Defense,Endurance buffer gear and we can be very effective at times, In fact he wont do WZ's without me. Outside of your class being a little too much on the squishy side i would say its an indirect problem of bad tanking mechanics imo and markers are not even part of the problem.

Do you get only one per account or do you get one for every alt? It would be worth it for me to refer myself if it was for every alt but if its just one really not worth it imo.