I'm actually finding the Plague a really pain in warzones, i bought the vaccine so i wouldn't have to worried about it, but it doesn't persist through death, every time i die I would have to reapply the vaccine to stay immune, which just isn't something I'm going to do or should have to do. It's a real pain in warzones being CC'ed by the plague for a bit or even dieing without taking a hit. I can bare with it till the event is over, but bioware please plan things through next time, if there is a vaccine it should persist through death.

Thank you bioware, now going up against pre-made team won't be so utterly depressing

I'm a little worried that there is a vote to which is more important, does it mean that the majority voted option will get the feature but the others won't?, personally think if they bring in a better group finder it should cover all forms of group activities not just the most popular one. Don't think there really need to put a vote up it should just be by default the all of the above scenario.

Yeah same i'm guessing my transfer request is lodged but some confirmation would be nice...

I find it kind of weird but will get use to it, it looks flashy and all but it is a bit of pain to read through threads now. As above poster said less spacing please.

lol i agree with the in bold there, in theory darkness have good burst with force lightning, but it can be stopped, that in theory goes both ways mate. I gave a very real way to stop force lightning very often but if you want to dismiss so be it. you're full of it, if you think you will get all those force lightnings off on a good player... anyway I'm also done here, if people truly want to believe that something with channelling based attack can have comparable burst in a warzones to all instant hits than fine believe all you want.

lol yes you can, interrupt first, knock back second, interrupt again, low slash, hell i even use Line of sight to stop some force lightning damamge, overall i really do stop a bulk of it and if you can't figure out how to do then well i feel sorry for you.

I love that word comparable in the context used here, meaning not as good lol.., deception spec kills things much quicker even more so now with 1.2, darkness gets a bulk of it's damage from force lightning which i stop every time i see it, anything with a cast time or channelling is a liability in warzones a liability i exploit everytime chance i get with interrupts,stuns, knocksbacks and even LOS.

Well you may do if you suck, but decent players can burst down targets quick as anything with deception.

lol what i never spent credits on gear at all, you get all the gear you need from missions and planet commendations, spending credits on gear while levelling is a big waste as you will out level everything.

Well not sure about other specs but with Deception i really don't want my voltaic slash,maul,assassinate and low slash to miss. That's enough melee base abilities to care about having enough accuracy.

So do you guys think it's worth buying the human unlock of 100 presence for 500k creds if I'm going to be levelling quite a few alts? I'm deferentially don't want to level a human so that's out

You are only talking about the lose in damage from taking out Expertise here, don't forget Expertise also reduces damage taken from players, with a bonus to both damage dealt and decease in damage received i think Expertise is will worth it over power, remember pvp isn't just about deal damage, survivability is also a big part of it.

Agree fix this please, on The Harbinger the Empire seem incapable of winning since 1.2 making progression very slow..., winning should grant a small bonus while the rest should come from your efforts in the warzone, I mean just because you were on the losing team doesn't mean you did less then all the players on the winning side.

Doubt it really matters in a organised team(not necessarily pre-made just any team with half a brain) healers will be marked up quick and for the rest of the match the green beam won't matter as you have a giant flame,gun etc.. on your head.

Personally think it's a good call, when Ranked waronzones come in I want them to actually work and not be a broken mess, anyone wanting them now are only hurting this game.

i don't mind all the tombs and relic hunting but then again i love Tomb Raider lol...

Maybe because we have better burst than Marauder and better mobility than Operatives, we do both decently while Ops and Mars only do 1 of those things well. If you truly just want 1 trick ponies in your team then yeah deception could be left out in the cold but even in a well planned game things don't always go well and having a spec with some versatility would help in these bad times. If your Marauder is dead you've lost mobility and the Ops can't cover that, if your Ops is dead you've lost your Burst and a Marauder can't cover that.

Because in PVP both low slash and Maul are important to deception and if don't see this then you are bad at deception, it's is as simple as that. Also you want a boost to the shock damage, have you actually seen the damage a crit shock can pull, boosting it's damage is definitely not needed. I will say it again at least when it comes to deception i really don't think you know your PVP.

lol what a dam silly oversight on Bioware's part, lets see some dam skin on ashara!!

Nah they are probably like me and actually want to melee, i rolled an assassin for primarily melee combat with a side of force attacks not the other way around so i will never roll madness, I'm indeed stubborn but not because i think madness is bad i just don't care for it

i agree with the sustained part, but Deception have zero viable aoe in warzones (well for the sake of just dealing pure damage anyway), while Darkness does aoe damage on every discharge and every wither. That aoe damage over a course of a full warzone really does add up.

When it comes to designs of Emp vs Rep it's like this: Republic = boring but practical. Empire = Cool looking but often unnecessary.

Microtransactions, mostly just cosmetic crap for your character, crap people don't need but seem to buy anyway.

lol your not getting it, just because darkness is OP doesn't make Deception UP, darkness is over performing which is why deception seems weak again i say Deception is fine it's at the level it should be, it's darkness that is the issue. Darkness is a tank spec they shouldn't be capable of any shape of form to deal great damage as they do. Also as i see in the 2nd screen shot Ito deals a lot of damage but no real kills, as i said before in this thread, darkness deal a lot of damage all over the place but they really don't take down targets the same as deception.