Yes I agree they have to keep it going , it's an MMO NOT a single player game with an end. I'm not complaining I expect it I was just trying to express the nature of an MMO>

Itr's a given yes, they have to keep ppl paying a sub don't they? I was gone for 6 months and yah when I got back my gear was crap even thou when I left was top notch. That's the way of MMOs sadly.

Well I was here from Beta...played a lot of classes both sides but my main and 1st is GS. I took a 6 month break, just recently came back....main thing I noticed in PvP was how bad CC has become....I can hardly move in a lot of Warzones for a good chunk of the WZ. I have played many MMOs < save Wow thank god> and I am a PvPer 1st and and the largest mistake devs make is making CC so out of control. So I'm not going to compare Melee to Ranged both have their arguments but I WILL say I wish they would tone down CC hard...as it seems since I was here more that it's gone crazy.

Well where to start? I have played since beta GS was my 1st class and still is my primary. I have tried others both Imps and Pubs, love my Guardian and Vanguard at my 20s is fun so far. I have always thought Sorcs with their killer lightening were and are FAR Op. Never thought Fly By was THAT op....just a great all round AoE for both PvE and PvP. I use it all the time for daily mobs and preventing caps in PvP or just as an opener. Guess I'll just retire my GS, not for this alone, several things recently have been frustrating me about the class, this is just icing. Seems in Star Wars you need a lightsaber to matter. I love Star Wars but think I'll have as much fun as a free to play player as a sub...besides ESO I've heard is great and I pre bought it already. I won't give up on this game but it no longer worth my monthly cash. Fly By was great in PvP to try and keep melee from eating you,, drop it on your head make them pause a moment b4 force jumping you....now why would they care about a fart?

Its funny I am a PvPer it's my mainstay in Star Wars...but I agree GS is very difficult to play in WZ....or open world. You rarely see them in WZ anymore for a reason...when a Tank class out dps us or easily meets our dps i there is an issue. And yes some can cry ' you're just bad' but again it's far more then bad players. Despite Pubs being terrible in PvP in general....GS are deff hurting. I have several classes on both sides..why play a ranged melee class wearing light armour if you can easily get as many kills , dps and be far more useful to your team as say a Gaurdian, or Shadow AND have better health, better armour?

Its Maras that give me the hardest time, and even Sorcs with that killer lightening..in WZ you become a HUGE target and sadly most Pubs do not use taunts or shields on a GS much....be nice if they's peel the damn melee off but they are more focused on their own kills to be much help. Everyone wants to be a dps so learn to kill them by yourself don't rely on your team mates for much help. But yes Fly by on yourself gives them pause.

Yah I have that but its an OLD set I just swapped the mods out of it. Battle master or older PvE gear has it.

Hmm well I'm still collecting Part gear atm so cool good to know and thank you, it was all the mods that I was having an issue understanding what and how to get.] So the primary attribute I should be going for is Power?

Ok so I have been back a few months now but was lvling up other toons and recently began to work on my Slinger. My issue is for gear...***? lol I don't get any of it now, I have been playing Warzones and getting the Part gear and a few pieces of the higher when I can. I know I will go Professional at the top tier but when I get all my pieces what is this with mods? I am not a hard core gamer I do not have time to spend hours doing math to figure out best of this or that. So can anyone tell me in layman terms what for 'PvP' are the best modes for your gear and how you get them? or direct me to a post already covering this stuff? Feeling a bit lost as I was away a bit and seems I came back to a new game. I do have Armstech and have been working on adding augment slots and I run dailies to try and get the armour modes but I guess I'm not sure what ones I should be focused on. I want to be the best support I can be for my team in WZ. Any help I appreciate thanks.

Thanks all, was wondering this myself as I just got to 10 on my Mara and wasn't sure what Tree to focus on. I'm a PvPer and wanted one good tree for single target.

See I have a turret..my Gunslinger is Sharpshooter so he is more or like a turret and has limited mobility...but for melee I have my Shadow I am having a blast with. I guess I like the idea of a big gun but not if I can't be very mobile...Vanguard is heavy armour or med? I like the idea of a rifle and still being able to move fairly well.

Ok so I have a new Trooper and have NO idea which way to go. My main toon is a GS and I love the firepower but hate he's pretty immobile...thou he IS very fun, so that's my RDPS. I also have a new Shadow I am really enjoying the melee dps and I have a Guardian Tank..so those are covered. I love the look or the Trooper and the idea of a ranged class with heavy weapons...not sure I'd make a very good healer thou in all honesty..I'm more used to killing. So does Commando have to go healer or can he be heavy support fire and if so what tree? And if not what is a Vanguard exactly? close ranged tank? or melee fighter?

Ok so instead of switching from my PvE gear to PvP gear ( with Expertise) I should just stay in my Columi < sp ?> gear when I enter a WZ? My pistols are already crafted from Guildmates and not PvP specific. So stay in PvE gear till I hit 54? I'm 52 now, save up new comms...hate wasted Battmaster gear..sigh....and start PvP gear all over again?

Was wondering the same thing. I'm rank 53 now after recently returning to the game. Gunslinger, I havn't jumped back into PvP yet, till I get my bearings again, I'm pvp rank 58 and have old gear from PvP and when I hit 60 but suppose it's all changed now. Where to begin? Have Battlemaster gear, it still even relavent?

Well I respeced today, 0/9/31 and well I am hitting like a truck single target with my DoTs my AoE seems to be lacking...trade off I guess. I was shocked how quickly an opponents health bar drops with Hemo shot+ Vital shot+ Shrap Bomb + Wounding and they drop like a fly, most times. Of course I soon find myself being targeted by the opposite side 2-3 at once. However end of WZ my kill count is respectable thou my dps falls into the middle it seems. It may be that my grenades are further along my hotbar now, not within easy finger reach like b4. I have to remember my AoEs as I seem focused on single target more now then when I was SS tree. Thanks for the advice all still getting used to DF but enjoying it.

Hmm well I played most of the 1st 3 months or so as a Sharpshooter with some Sab thrown in because I enjoyed throwing grenades around. After talking to my Guildleader Danea I switched to Sab/DF build. My WZ dps is up huge margins as are my kill count. I'm no squishier then I was before thou obviously more mobile (even if I forget to MOVE at times) and I still get to toss grenades. My main issue however is finding a good rotation, I may try the 0/8/31 (I think it was) I saw posted here earlier in the topic. Can anyone tell me their normal rotation and how it works/ I'd appreciate it thanks. Also how are the higher up abilities in DF compared to taking more Sab in the build?

I have to say I'm not sure how 'Valor' no longer matters, can anyone link me were this was posted and why? Not sure how Valor is changed, I also am 2 pieces shy of full Champ at Valor 52...was trying to get to 60 b4 patch ...damn job! So sorry being nieve here but what exactly are the armour/valor changes? I know about recruit gear so besides that set...

End of the day there is FAR to much CC in this game....and kiting in this game is not as easy as the melee's seem to think it is And I play both k thanks.

Well from what I've read you will be come 1.2. Kinda why people stopped bothering to collect armaments ect.

I think server mergers are needed or cross server que's or both. I agree with others that be nice to fight people that don't know you (maybe I won't get focus fired so much!) and for ranked they'll need bigger population then ONE server. I think after Warhammer Bioware should realize that Mythic does know 'something' about PvP. Despite the problems with class balance in Warhammer the Open World PvP in that game was the funnest I have ever experianced thus far. I'm not sure why Mythic has not taken the lead on fixing the open world PvP in this game. Bioware's great at 'story' but obviously know **** about PvP.

Thanks for the replies. As I have both in the low teens I'll probably go through their class stories to the end anyway. I'll play both in PvP and see which I like better. I play a Gunslinger as my main, and it's more challenging then most would think. I just want a toon that can get 'stuck in' do good burst then 'poof' and annoy my opponents to no end while helping my team to win.

Hey all, I am a Pub player and lvl'd a Gunslinger to 50, and a Guardian to 21 atm. I also made a few Imp toons to try out, both an assassin and an Operative. I enjoy the sl, but I'm a PvP guy at heart. What's better in PvP out of the stealth classes Assassin or OP? I admit as a GS operatives opening from stealth and bursting on me kill me most times b4 the stun wears off. It's killer burst from what I've seen, even my own rank 12 gets very respectable numbers in WZ . I have yet to try the Assassin in PvP but understand they are/were sick deadly? So come 1.2 which will reign king for bursty death? I'm looking for the class with the best chance of going toe to toe in melee and gutting anything save a tank quickly.

Pretty much sums it up, I agree. If there are not enough players on both sides the WZ shouldn't begin to start with! But awarding the zerg side a win just for queing up is rediculouse It should be considered a draw if there are not enough players but the match starts anyway. The over pop faction already has more then enough 'perks' they don't need anymore help.

Warhammer did RvR best, and I rarely had any lag issues...I ran Ilum today with an OPs grp and it was horrendous! I was lagged to death...forget 'slideshow' my PC froze! BF really ****ed up, obviously they are using an 80's engine for this game that can't handle even 15 ppl a side!

Hey all, I was recently in Ilum and we had an Op grp plus a bit against a similar sized Imp grp. Anytime I got NEAR the battle, my screen more or less froze up...I'd get a frame every few seconds at most...b4 I'd see a thing I was dead. I turned down my graphics to Low, turned off name plates ect and still laggy as hell. I have played a few MMOs including Warhammer, and never had lag this bad, even with close to 100 players a side at times in WAR. After I quit for the day, I thought maybe turning my fraps down might help as well. I run a decent system with a very respectable vid card...so is it my pc or the game itself? Any hints/tips that might help? That lag cheated me from getting my dailies and I'm NOT impressed. Oh and not my connection either, I have high speed ect ect.