Apparently some people like the exact same grind over and over and over and over again. And herein lies the problem. There is absolutely nothing to keep you logging back in, once you finish raids. Dont get me wrong, Im not saying other games are light years ahead, but I am saying that other games seem to be acknowledging and working on this problem. Deep customization of character appearance, alot more thought into open world pvp, housing, and other areas are all being considered in an effort to expand the reason to continue to log on. Until this gets addressed in TOR... people will keep leaving. Once you've done whatever is the flavor of the month activity. Why log back on?

Ok. I give up. Yeah yeah, you can has my stuff, etc etc. But heres the deal: 1) The servers are dead, and you cant even give me any type of answer about when this would be resolved. At least in some meaningful sort of way. It seems that its perfectly acceptable to release fluff.... when theres no one to even play with. This is a serious issue. You arent addressing it. That makes me not trust you. 2) I was content to give the game time. I really was, but truthfully the lack of any real content except galaga style space, pvp esports... you arent bringing anything new. You arent really, even bringing anything unique. And that hurts the game, more than you. I say that with a great deal of confidence, at having seen the direction you're heading in the first six months. It basically amounts to releasing alot of fluff, with the occasional raid tossed in. What more did I want? =Expanded space. =expanded crafting. =world pvp. (Im still confused as to why you have the entire team from warhammer, and you couldnt even make a decent world pvp.) Thats the first three that come to mind, that would swing me into staying. 3) You are apparently firing quite a bit of your staff, including Stephen Reid. I think this pretty much cinches it for me. If you have lost that much confidence in your development/community management team, that bodes poorly for this game. Dont get me wrong. This isnt, the game sucks/I quit message. This is more like.... You, Bioware/EA are not really responding to the concerns that people have put out. Whats worse, you seem to be specifically glossing over it. This shakes my confidence in a company completely. So, best of luck. Thanks for all the fish.

Ill bite. I take issue with the population problems right now. Mostly because these issues are really what prevents me from enjoying the game to any degree at this time. I have, quite literally, no one on my server anymore. I have six level fifties, and they are all unplayable, since there really isnt anyone to attack any of the content with... or even pvp against. And honestly, rerolling.... it feels almost like a slap in the face after having put the time, effort and energy in place to level those toons to begin with. Long before the game was released, I got the sense that they were being rushed/pushed to getting it out before the end of the year. I get why. I dont agree, but I get why. I also get that mmo's evolve and are built on over time. The populations will fluctuate as content is released, devoured, and people get bored. What really will sink or swim any trust in bioware is what they choose to do over the summer months. The type of content they choose to release, and the type of content that doesnt necessarily involve a ton of other people. For instance, home decoration, space content, etc. I guess ultimately, it depends on what direction they take the game in. Will they just follow the path of WoW, or will they do something that makes the game unique?

I wanted Ho oker but, uh.... it canked that name. /sigh Ima..... Twodollar.... Oh well. Guess its not family friendly.

No. Its more like, "bought a story based mmo, turns out I wanted a sandbox."

If you dont stop being reasonable and making sense, I will personally douse you in chocolate sauce. Im just sayin....

Ok. Choice is not always a good thing. Why? Im glad you asked. This game has two seperate factions. Ideally, having a balance of both on every server makes the most sense. So lets say server a gets a choice to transfer to server B, C, or D. Now you have an influx of people with little to no control. Unless of course, you are only offering transfers to specific factions. In which case, its all kind of an illusion of choice. So why not just cut out all the red tape. Merge some servers, and move on with life?

Five toons on one server. All five level fifty. All five in Rakata gear. Id delete them out of spite at this point, but then there would be absolutely no one on my server at all.

Really? The Flying Cargo Box with extendable engine pods? Amazing? Why then, do I feel like Im constantly flying around in ghetto space, in my freakin version of a space pinto?

I dunno. Not to defend anyone or anything, but.... it could be a combination of the two as well. Such as, their diabolical plan ran into a snag, which has caught a serious amount of stupid in its net, causing this current situation. I mean, Im just saying. It doesnt have to be just one. It could be both.

The funny thing about all this is.... they can add whatever they want. It can be utterly mindblowing. But my server is dead. Completely and utterly dead. A dungeon finder thats limited to my server, does me no good at all. Theres nobody to find. So yeah, unless I see a huge influx of people, or server mergers. Count me as one of those people complaining. I have a sub game thats unplayable.

Amen. No game with an MT shop has ever been worth playing. Argue all you want.

It was a pointing out that 1.3 isnt going to cure everything. /shrug And yes, it was necessary to point it out. Sorry that it doesnt have anything to do with your problems. Sucks for you.

OR 1.3 could hit with such a ferocity that not only does everyone stay, people come back. And then, GL could apologize for the prequels, and say they were all just a bad dream. And let a real director make some prequels...... and then, World peace could spotaneously break out..... and aliens could land, telling us we arent alone in the universe and they all want to help us.... /sigh a man can dream.

Theres just one problem. Using an LFG on a dead server, isnt going to help. A dead server, is a dead server. We dont need an lfg on my server because all 30 of us are in the fleet wondering where everyone went.

Yep. Pretty much everyone left. Leaving something like ten people scattered across the servers. (sure it was more than ten, but it didnt feel like it.)

SWG did it.

>.> <.< Watch supernatural.

I dunno about that. I think what we might see is another change in the system of mmos itself. Games like (god help me.) MW3 are very popular. Id be willing to bet at some point soon, we will start to see mmos starting to marry with alot of those ideas. More casual, less intensive. More quick and easy to get into estyle games. Im not saying its good. But its selling.

There are definately some interesting technical issues with this game. Ones Ive never seen before.

Agree and disagree. The problem that bioware is going to run into... is that theres several releases on the horizon. With GW2, The Secret World, and Tera online (having just released) Its like pirranahs taking bites out of their subs. While singly they may not all complete or even be on the same level (and Im not making that judgement call.) all of them together can take a significant chunk out of the sub base if they arent careful. Its not doom. But its an issue. And one they would be foolish to ignore.

Actually its great for leveling. Dropped over to Fatman, made a toon. Started leveling. Lo and behold, I was churning out group quests as fast as I was my solo quests. I was meeting people. Having fun. It was.... a very different experience than being on tat with say... 10 people.

So heres the interesting thing about this line of thought. People leave. They go off to whatever they think will be the next big game. And they find... its not really the next big game, its alot of the same things we have already seen. Partly because the development times are years behind, and partly because new doesnt equate to better. Now dont get me wrong. I am not some vapid fan, drooling and vehemently defending anything. I see problems. Lots and lots of problems. Particularly my dead server, which is a huge issue. However, Im not one to jump ship to the new game just because the developers swear its awesome. GW2 will not meet the unrealistic expectations of people. Its not that the game will be bad (although it could be, I have no idea.) I just know, that the vast majority of gamers will have unrealistic expectations about a game, and thus be highly disappointed when the game doesnt immediately change to suit their personal desires. I am reminded of the train analogy bioware first used in reference to launch, and I think in spirit it applies here. A train, moving on its tracks, cannot make an immediate change of direction. It requires planning, forethought, and careful implementation, otherwise you wind up with a train wreck. Passengers, can of course, jump off the train. Most likely they will wind up bruised, annoyed, and angry... and then returning to the train a couple of stops down. However, if you think the next great thing is out there. And its just around the corner. You should most definately go look. Ill be on the train, and Im relatively certain you'll return too, a couple of stops down.

Dont get me wrong, if someone could actually make one that didnt devolve into pay to win, Id consider it. But the truth is, free 2 play is a lie. Take LOTRO for instance. You have to subscribe to be able to carry gold, get a full inventory, use the AH, etc. Then on top of that, you wind up having to buy crap through the MT just to stay competitive. Like I said. Love to see a f2p game that was worth playing... tried original GW. It was horrid. So essentially... if this game dies, probably wont be eager to try any new mmos that come out in the future. Not worth bothering with if Im gonna wind up on dead servers, playing with myself... >.>

Microtransactions + Free 2play TOR= Done with Tor forever. I have never. Ever. Found a free 2 play game that was worth the time or drive space it took.