Bar-Da-Voya Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 Browsing through the lists of known bugs and the other reported ones that never make it onto a known list and there are so many bugs that have been present for years and devs don't bother to fix them. So why do we even report them? The devs don't care unless it's CM related or game breaking. If the bug has a workaround or it doesn't affect game play it gets permanently ignored. Achievements especially. They do the work to put them in the game then it gets bugged and its never touched again (Jedi Knight Tactical Item achievement & Swoop Rally Perfectionist achievement to name but a couple). Kai Zykken vendor has been bugged since he arrived. Reclaimed Treasure is still bugged at times. Manaan cargo bug. PvP guild challenges have been bugged for a while - no comment from devs. Deconstructing items from materials inventory bugged forever. Ruhnuk Scrabbler bug. And this is just a couple of pages into the bug reports. They put some bugs on the "Known List" and then eventually a new Known list is started and the previously Known bugs aren't fixed or brought forward. As for all the reported bugs that don't make it onto the Known List - ignored forever and ever. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amodin Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 (edited) I'd love to say something like, "Well if it's a Cartel Market item, it would be fixed fast!" but I can't even say that now. I bought the Battleworn Engineer gear and dying the armor has been broken for years. Lokin was busted for over three years on my Agent, when he was in Tank role, he wouldn't keep any of the player buffs on him at all. I would literally bump my bug report post yearly because it was such an issue for my healing Agent doing quests/dailies/FPs. You could tell how much it would affect a companion as well, not only because of the HP drop, but he would really take a beating to the point I couldn't keep him healed. The only way that was fixed was re-designing the buff system so you didn't have to re-apply them - they are now static. The engineer gear still isn't fixed and after reporting it via the in-game reporting system, I made a post in the bug reports so I can go back every year and bump that one too for the next (X) years. Aside from the other repeating bugs, the years-long bugs, etc., I have to agree that it's a futile attempt to get anything reportable to get fixed. Unless it costs them money (other than subs - we all know CM micro-transactions are a bigger income source), it feels moot. Edited March 8, 2023 by Amodin spelling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooyace Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 Still waiting for Shaggy hair to be fixed. It's my favorite hairstyle but the issues with it make me want to use other hairstyles that don't clip through my skull and don't have holes on the inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remylion Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 (edited) If this is like other MMOs they probably add bugs to the list, prioritize them, then eventually fix/test them weeks/months later then put them in the next build. Unless it is a bug that will directly harm the cash shop or break the game, I rarely see MMOs execute immediate fixes. Edited March 13, 2023 by remylion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrixxieTriss Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, remylion said: If this is like other MMOs they probably add bugs to the list, prioritize them, then eventually fix/test them weeks/months later then put them in the next build. Unless it is a bug that will directly harm the cash shop or break the game, I rarely see MMOs execute immediate fixes. LoL. There are bugs in this game that haven’t been fixed for 10 years. Sure some from that era probably can’t be fixed because the people who wrote that bit of code have left. But the Shaggy hair bug the other poster referred to has been in the game for many, many years. There are are stupid bugs that we’ve reported that never get fixed. It doesn’t matter how long you give BioWare, they just don’t fix the majority of bugs. Even game breaking bugs aren’t addressed fast enough unless enough people complain a lot on the forums. I came back to the game after 12 months & they still hadn’t fixed the bug that had stopped me progressing. It wasn’t until I caused a big ruckus here & on social media did they finally fix it. But not until after I had to get CS to skip me forward in that part of the story. I think we have every right to question why we bother reporting non game breaking bugs because I agree with the OP, most of the time BioWare just ignore them. Edited March 13, 2023 by TrixxieTriss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eabevella Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 The loading screen bug IS very annoying for raid groups and that's affecting BW's paying customers. But something something we can't reproduce the bug, something something probably will just ignore it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlameYOL Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Probably because they don't have a lot of extra hands to spare. So the bug fixing ends up not being done as its not a priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Malganus Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 It's never been priority and why the bug list has forever grown into what it is now. Since we did their job for them for years, there is no reason to keep reporting them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ardrossan Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 7 hours ago, FlameYOL said: Probably because they don't have a lot of extra hands to spare. So the bug fixing ends up not being done as its not a priority. Even when they had lots of people working for them they rarely fixed bugs. I would actually say that they've more to fix bugs in the past 2 years than they have in the previous 8. Which is still quite low, I just encountered a story bug playing through Inquisitor on Korriban that I remember seeing like five years ago lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlameYOL Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 19 hours ago, Ardrossan said: Even when they had lots of people working for them they rarely fixed bugs. I would actually say that they've more to fix bugs in the past 2 years than they have in the previous 8. Which is still quite low, I just encountered a story bug playing through Inquisitor on Korriban that I remember seeing like five years ago lol. I wouldn't say they rarely fixed bugs, but for every bug they fix two more appear. Its like a hydra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otowi Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Many of the long standing bugs in this game is due the game engine not being a standard engine, like say the Unreal engine is. If memory recalls, one dev way back said that the game is basically spaghetti code, since so many devs have left over the years, and no one new seems to know how to fix the bugs without the end result being cataclysmic. So BioWare really shot themselves in the foot with the heavily modified Hero engine they went with, which is certainly not helping the game at all... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denavin Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 If you did not report bugs.... Then they would have nothing to put in the Known (but ignored) Bugs List..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazuone Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Mabye we should report here bug again and again each time we have an update (not so often lol) without considering it should have been resolved in the previous update. I think I won't create bug ticket again but will report here instead. If we are lucky others players will see the thread and confirm they have the same bug too. This is the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denavin Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 11 hours ago, Kazuone said: Mabye we should report here bug again and again each time we have an update (not so often lol) without considering it should have been resolved in the previous update. I think I won't create bug ticket again but will report here instead. If we are lucky others players will see the thread and confirm they have the same bug too. This is the way Repeating bug reports will only raise the ire of BW who will admonish you for re-posting the Ignored bug. They will repeat that it is "in the known bug list" then ignore it as they always do. Re-posting will only get your post "Removed" and YOU in trouble and will have NO effect on BW nor will it get them to pull their collective heads out of their Rectal Orifices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazuone Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 oups... My mistake, there's a ---------- BUGS FROM PREVIOUS UPDATE ---------- in the GAME UPDATE 7.2 - KNOWN ISSUES so my answer was not revelant ;). sry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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