MortenJessen Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 As the title says, please let us drop it for good. The system is bad at best, and I really dont want to do it. So please BW, let us remove it permanently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthCasus Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 Then do it once and swap back to your OG combat style, (your) problem solved. All this is asking for is Bioware to do it for you with the risk of other players being screwed out of it for one weird/dumb reason or another. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MortenJessen Posted January 20, 2023 Author Share Posted January 20, 2023 I cant really be bothered by how other players screw over things. I have read quite a few imaginative tales of such, on this forum, and most of them is just what you your self quite rightfully adresses as dumb reasons. You can not cure humanity, but why force options on those of us who can use the brain, just to make Darwin a sad panda? He did not live in vain, and trust me, even the best laid out "Are You Sure" type delete to delete options can be screwed over by idiots, so why save them? I have read that much on this forum, and I am not impressed with your answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darcmoon Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 33 minutes ago, DarthCasus said: Then do it once and swap back to your OG combat style, (your) problem solved. All this is asking for is Bioware to do it for you with the risk of other players being screwed out of it for one weird/dumb reason or another. Nope. I have no intention of getting a second combat style on most of my toons. But I also don’t want to use a NON changeable decision just to get the quest out of my log. The same mission log that has a hard limit on how many missions you can have at one time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveTheCynic Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 Just now, MortenJessen said: I cant really be bothered by how other players screw over things. I have read quite a few imaginative tales of such, on this forum, and most of them is just what you your self quite rightfully adresses as dumb reasons. You can not cure humanity, but why force options on those of us who can use the brain, just to make Darwin a sad panda? He did not live in vain, and trust me, even the best laid out "Are You Sure" type delete to delete options can be screwed over by idiots, so why save them? I have read that much on this forum, and I am not impressed with your answer. Sorry to say this, but I'm with @DarthCasus on this one. If you drop the mission, and later they add a new combat style that you like <<<<<<<===========>>>>>>> this much, and it fits <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<=======================================>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this much with your idea of your character, you'd be cursing yourself and BioWare and me and everyone else to high heaven that you dropped the mission. So no, not a good idea. Just untrack it so you can keep it around for a rainy day without seeing it on your screen all the time. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MortenJessen Posted January 20, 2023 Author Share Posted January 20, 2023 Who cares. If you want to be able to have a second choice, make it so that the mission can be picked up from a class trainer when or if you want to change. Just get it out of my mission log, that as Darcmoon so correctly puts it, has a hard limit to the number of missions one can have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThanderSnB Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 (edited) Yeah, it definitely should be available from class trainers on fleet. They don't have much use these days. May as well put this mission on them. To be clear, I do think players should automatically get this mission on new characters, but I think they should also have the option to abandon and pick it up later on at the fleet. Bioware did this to an operation story mission on Iokath years ago. When completing the Iokath story, you get a purple mission to do an operation. You used to not be able to abandon it, but Bioware changed it to allow abandoning and picking it up later at the Iokath dailies board. I don't see why a similar thing can't be done here. Edited January 20, 2023 by ThanderSnB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralGyro Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 i made most of my characters second style a stealth for heroics if the OG one didnt have it. my agent i made a gunslinger though as i fancy the double blaster covert operative fantasy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achnaattwo Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 1 hour ago, GeneralGyro said: i made most of my characters second style a stealth for heroics if the OG one didnt have it. my agent i made a gunslinger though as i fancy the double blaster covert operative fantasy same for me, Dailies , not every class I like playing has stealth. Having stealth just speeds it up for me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrixxieTriss Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 4 hours ago, Darcmoon said: Nope. I have no intention of getting a second combat style on most of my toons. But I also don’t want to use a NON changeable decision just to get the quest out of my log. The same mission log that has a hard limit on how many missions you can have at one time. Or they could just increase how many missions you can log & then you can deselect the missions you will never do. This would be a better fix for everyone. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbomagnus Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 24 minutes ago, TrixxieTriss said: Or they could just increase how many missions you can log & then you can deselect the missions you will never do. This would be a better fix for everyone. Or they could find a way to flag missions like the Second Combat Style mission so that they simply don't count towards the number in the log. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darcmoon Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 26 minutes ago, TrixxieTriss said: Or they could just increase how many missions you can log & then you can deselect the missions you will never do. This would be a better fix for everyone. I agree entirely with that. The thing is that I could swear I remember them saying the 25 limit was due to them compromising between us able to pick up enough missions and the database/game taking too long, or something to that effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MortenJessen Posted January 22, 2023 Author Share Posted January 22, 2023 What troubles me the most is that BW goes on to carter for the lowest common denominator, making the one annoyance after the other out of it for those of us who can use the brain and live with a decision we made. If the reason for it to be not abandonable is that people would abandon it and then cry, then let them cry, they were warned. If they still made the decision, despite being informed of the consequences, I cant really see why one would (let alone should) try to carter for them. It is (a) misplaced attempt to help out people who dont want (cant) be helped anyway, and doing it only makes them even less capable of handling consequences in the long run, since they learn that crying makes things better. And that would be doing them a disservice. For obvious reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eabevella Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Kind of annoying that it's a purple mission. They could make a "I don't want to learn a new combat style" option to abandon the mission, but make it so that the players can pick it back up from the class trainers - those trainers are obsolete now anyway (I do like the idea of learning skills from a familiar face), why not give them new a mission? The trainers are also on most planets, so people who abandon the mission could pick it up at most places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreadtechSavant Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 (edited) On 1/20/2023 at 8:21 PM, MortenJessen said: As the title says, please let us drop it for good. The system is bad at best, and I really dont want to do it. So please BW, let us remove it permanently. Oh, so you don't like it, therefore no one else can. However I agree you should be able to dismiss it as a quest, if for no other reason than some players already have there complaint posts written up about accidently getting rid of it and want BW to restore it. I mean we gotta give these players something to post about..... Yes in that kind of mood tonight. Edited January 22, 2023 by DreadtechSavant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MortenJessen Posted January 23, 2023 Author Share Posted January 23, 2023 22 hours ago, DreadtechSavant said: Oh, so you don't like it, therefore no one else can. No, and yes. No, because I just want it out of my mission log, and because I dont want to do it. Ever. Yes, because is that not why all people want things on this forum? So why cant I use the same (lack of) logic? 😜 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shayddow Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Quote Bioware did this to an operation story mission on Iokath years ago. When completing the Iokath story, you get a purple mission to do an operation. You used to not be able to abandon it, but Bioware changed it to allow abandoning and picking it up later at the Iokath dailies board. I don't see why a similar thing can't be done here. The things you learn on this board. I still have this Iokath mission on all my characters that have gone thru Iokath. My Bounty Hunter Still has a companion mission on her list from before 4.0 that is supposed to be male-only having to do with romancing Mako. She can't do the mission. Heheh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveTheCynic Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 On 1/22/2023 at 11:44 PM, DreadtechSavant said: However I agree you should be able to dismiss it as a quest, Subject to the availability of a way to restore it by in-game activity, e.g. picking it up from some NPC on the Fleet somewhere. On 1/22/2023 at 11:44 PM, DreadtechSavant said: if for no other reason than some players already have there complaint posts written up about accidently getting rid of it and want BW to restore it. If it's easy to restore, no need for such a post. On 1/22/2023 at 11:44 PM, DreadtechSavant said: I mean we gotta give these players something to post about..... No, that's not necessary *at*all*, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EllieAnne Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 I say keep it because if BW tries to fix it, they'll break 3 other things. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shayddow Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 I concur with that Ellie! coding is like that. Fix one thing, break 2 or 3 other things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveTheCynic Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 18 hours ago, Shayddow said: I concur with that Ellie! coding is like that. Fix one thing, break 2 or 3 other things. No. Not really. Or, at least, not as an inherent characteristic. I've been (mostly) failing to break those two or three other things for 34 years, as of three weeks ago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlBuzzard Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 On 1/20/2023 at 8:05 PM, TrixxieTriss said: Or they could just increase how many missions you can log & then you can deselect the missions you will never do. This would be a better fix for everyone. I kind if like this idea... maybe a 3rd toggle switch (so to speak) one that reads bypassed?? This might help with the larger picture of so much ground to cover with a new alt in which we have already done (more than once) beforehand. Hmmm ... maybe a toggle switch for indicating playing chapters (segments) which might affect companion relationships (for those who want such things). Just a thought to add. I hope this is OK?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MortenJessen Posted February 3, 2023 Author Share Posted February 3, 2023 (edited) I can get around having a sort of secondary mission tap to put it in, as long as I dont have it filling in my mission log. While at it, can this secondary mission log hold information about what romances I have going on a char? I just took up a char that I had not played for like 2 years, and thought I never romanced anyone, so my shock when I read that getting Kira as my girlfriend would cause old romances to stop, made me spend more than an hour trying to rethink this chars history. To no avail so I took the chance and went on with the Kira romance. So a romance tracker added to a secondary mission log (to missions one never will do but they cant be hard-deleteed) would be nice. Edited February 3, 2023 by MortenJessen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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