New Races

[Azterion]

Seeing as the new species would need to be able to do the same animations as the ones that came before, a lot of the ones listed by the op would be impossible. But now I wanna see Quinn make out with a Wookie, or Kaliyo with a Rodian .

 

Anyway, good luck and happy hunting

 

 

I suppose the kissing would be hard for Wookies but all they have to do is modify the stories for neutral relationships, like they do already. (No romantic option) Of course with further expansion they can add some Wookie love to the game. Adding any race would honestly be so easy. I have friends who do this kinda thing for fun on their spare time. It's not hard at all.

[Azterion]

I'm not a programmer nor do I claim to know how they do what they do but every one of my character's customized appearances show up in the cut scenes......isn't it just a skin inserted to the scene? Couldn't a new race be placed the same?

 

Yep, exactly. The game just takes whatever you're playing and you're in the scene. It's honestly cake.

[Azterion]

New playable species would be great, but the options would have to be limited to aliens that speak Basic and have enough humanoid features that their introduction either wouldn't contradict lore or causes problems with cutscene content.

 

As cool as it would be to play a bowcaster-wielding Wookie, that is sadly not a possibility. Neither would a Gaffi-stick wielding Tusken that does

every time you defeat someone in PVP, which would be my pick.

 

The most likely candidates would be humanoid aliens that already have some existing character models in the game. Nautolans for instance, which were the third most requested playable species behind Togruta and Cathar, Devaronians, or Weequay.

 

It's actually not that hard at all. The only change they'd need to make is add subtitles and the appropriate gibberish language for the species. They already do it with certain NPCs in the game, so it wouldn't be any trouble to do it for the cutscenes. Imagine leaping into battle with a Wookie roar! It's totally possible and really quite easy.

[Azterion]

There are four different Nautolan models in the game, and their real names are:

* Blue Male

* Green Male

* Blue Female

* Green Female.

 

There are no face variations, no scars, nothing, just those four. Of course they could add variations (as they did when adding Cathar and Toggies), but they would have to do so, and that represents a non-trivial amount of graphical modelling work.

 

Same for Voss (except that there is one male and one female, who are also too tall *and* too skinny to be compatible with existing armour sets. Playable Voss are also a monstrously enormous big huge lore break, and adding them as playable would immediately turn every single conversation on or around the Voss segment of the class stories into total gibberish.

 

The other one that crops up from time to time is Devaronians, and there the "limited models" thing is worse: there are two, best called Tyresius Lokai and Gault Rennow. All others look like Tyresius, and not one of them is female. (Female Devaronians have no horns and look in general quite different from the males.)

 

I honestly have friends who do this in their spare time, it's really not that hard at all. The scars and complexion options are universal skins that work the same gear: they can be applied to any model. Also, they are running a game that people pay for, so I'm sure they're aware that they need to put work into it. Creating some new skin colors/patterns and facial models isn't much to ask. Star Wars is a diverse universe, so the game needs some more variety to truly feel like the real deal.

[Azterion]

Trandoshan and Wookie would make this game even more amazing.

 

Agreed. Fans of hardcore muscle characters have really been letdown all these years. Time to get some bruisers in the game.

[Azterion]

I have been calling for Nautolan's as a playable race at every livestream BW has done. Since they are already used as NPC's and a companion should not be too hard to bring in.

 

Will pray for this to happen every day!

 

You and me both. I'm still so surprised that they didn't come out since I stopped playing a while back. I'm really hoping they'll bring Nautolans into the fold because they're such an awesome and popular race.

[MandFlurry]

I remember how in SWG, i loved playing a Wookie Jedi and also had a Mon Calimari one along with others, and loved the variety. Can't believe i forgot the other race that was later introduced. But i also think we should have Kel-dor as well, especially since that Kel-dor Jedi Master is coming back in-game.

[Azterion]

I remember how in SWG, i loved playing a Wookie Jedi and also had a Mon Calimari one along with others, and loved the variety. Can't believe i forgot the other race that was later introduced. But i also think we should have Kel-dor as well, especially since that Kel-dor Jedi Master is coming back in-game.

 

I strongly agree. I never played Galaxies, but I do feel the Kel Dor would be a great addition based on all the characters we've seen. They always carry a deep wisdom and I always liked how innovative and sharp Plo Koon was.

[Nightblazer]

Greetings, everyone! I'm sure you all have a race or two you'd like to suggest to the devs, and the only way to help them know what we're hoping for is to talk about it: So let's start suggesting! I'll start with mine and the rest of you can take it away. I'll explain my main choice then list other possible candidates and what faction they should be on. Suggest ANYTHING you want...even Gungans.

 

The race I've been wanting for years, and is already featured in the game, are the Nautolans! For those of you not familiar with this race, Nautolans are Kit Fisto's race: An amphibious people with advanced olfactory scenes and resilient bodies.

 

REPUBLIC

- Nautolan (Kit Fisto)

- Mysterious Yoda Species

- Wookie (Chewbacca)

- Kel Dor (Plo Koon)

- Kaminooan (The cloners who created the Republic's grand army)

- Mon Calamari (IT'S A TRAP!)

 

EMPIRE

- Uson Vong

- Rodian (Greedo)

- Jawa (Well... Jawas)

- Trandoshan (Bossk)

- Kaleesh (General Grievous)

- Thisspiasian (Oppo Rancisis)

 

Out of the above list the following will never get added as a playable species:

 

 

• Mysterious Yoda Species
  
• Wookie (Chewbacca)
  
• Kel Dor (Plo Koon)
  
• Kaminooan (The cloners who created the Republic's grand army)
  
• Mon Calamari (IT'S A TRAP!)
  
• Uson Vong
  
• Rodian (Greedo)
  
• Jawa (Well... Jawas)
  
• Trandoshan (Bossk)
  
• Kaleesh (General Grievous)
  
• Thisspiasian (Oppo Rancisis)
  

 

For the ones like Yoda's species, they are meant to be rare and mysterious. That is why so few are in the game and it's something both George and Disney have been keen on following and meant to be kept that way. Hence why there is no info from George on them and why they aren't in cannon other then Yoda, Yaddle and maybe a couple of others. George wanted him to be mysterious and never wanted any more info about him and don't see Disney / Lucasfilm allowing that to change.

 

In regards to the rest in the above list, they won't be added because of the following guidelines they follow which has been covered in multiple threads:

 

 

1. Must speak Basic
   
2. Must work within all existing cutscenes
   
3. Must work with all existing armor sets
   
4. Must be romanceable
   

 

 

Because of the above guidelines, none of those would become a playable species. Maybe as a companion but not playable.

[WayOfTheWarriorx]

I strongly agree. I never played Galaxies, but I do feel the Kel Dor would be a great addition based on all the characters we've seen. They always carry a deep wisdom and I always liked how innovative and sharp Plo Koon was.

 

At this point that race is fairly recognizable and has a strong "Star Wars feel", like Wookies, Hutts and Rodians for example. Wouldn't be a bad choice at all.

[Azterion]

Out of the above list the following will never get added as a playable species:

 

 

• Mysterious Yoda Species
  
• Wookie (Chewbacca)
  
• Kel Dor (Plo Koon)
  
• Kaminooan (The cloners who created the Republic's grand army)
  
• Mon Calamari (IT'S A TRAP!)
  
• Uson Vong
  
• Rodian (Greedo)
  
• Jawa (Well... Jawas)
  
• Trandoshan (Bossk)
  
• Kaleesh (General Grievous)
  
• Thisspiasian (Oppo Rancisis)
  

 

For the ones like Yoda's species, they are meant to be rare and mysterious. That is why so few are in the game and it's something both George and Disney have been keen on following and meant to be kept that way. Hence why there is no info from George on them and why they aren't in cannon other then Yoda, Yaddle and maybe a couple of others. George wanted him to be mysterious and never wanted any more info about him and don't see Disney / Lucasfilm allowing that to change.

 

In regards to the rest in the above list, they won't be added because of the following guidelines they follow which has been covered in multiple threads:

 

 

1. Must speak Basic
   
2. Must work within all existing cutscenes
   
3. Must work with all existing armor sets
   
4. Must be romanceable
   

 

 

Because of the above guidelines, none of those would become a playable species. Maybe as a companion but not playable.

 

Most of the races I listed do speak basic, and even the ones who don't can easily be subtitled with the appropriate gibberish language audio laced over it. They can be placed in any cutscene quite easily, as the current races can be augmented from very small and frail, to large, towering individuals. As for the gear, those other threads you read were wrong because they don't understand how 3D modeling and textures/skins work: The gear can be applied to any form in the game, even serpentine, it just might look funny on the less humanoid ones and require modification for future models, which is how WoW has been doing it for 14 years. Naga for example can wear any gear that a Human, Orc, or Gnome can wear - all very distinct shapes and forms - this game's engine is the same in that regard. They don't reformat every single suit to fit every new race that comes to the game: whoever told you that is just ignorant. I have friends who make models like this for fun on the side, believe me, it's not that hard.

 

As for the Romance, add new stories for them. They don't need romance in all the previous chapters, and the game already has platonic companion dialog.

 

That leaves only the Yoda Species, which doesn't have to stay a mystery because George Lucas didn't think of any new content for them. That's the whole point of expanding on stories, revelations. You're basically implying that they shouldn't have to do any work. It kinda defeats the purpose of an MMO when you don't evolve the story or visuals. It's well past time we got some new races.

Edited October 24, 2018 by Azterion

[Azerdayne]

While additional player races would be cool, I think I'd prefer more customization options instead. I've played through the original class stories so many times, I really don't think I will ever roll another new character unless new player classes (or significantly different new Adv. class specializations) are introduced. I've been playing my main characters for 3-6+ years, and I can't really see myself changing their race with CC's, as it would be too weird for my beloved characters to suddenly change species, IMHO. But some new customization options are always nice. I've enjoyed updating beards, cybernetics, eyes, scars, and haircuts over the years.

 

I suppose new players who are still rolling lots of new characters would utilize new race options, which would lead to a greater diversity of alien races on fleet. That'd be kinda cool. But I don't know if that's worth the allocation of development resources. It seems like a waste to me, however, I am keenly interested in anything that will improve the overall health of the game.

 

So, if metrics from past additions show that a new playable race would help improve player/subscriber numbers? Then, yeah, I'm all for it.

Edited October 25, 2018 by Azerdayne

[Celise]

Adding my opinion in red within the quote.

 

REPUBLIC

- Nautolan (Kit Fisto) - Easily doable with current body shapes.

- Mysterious Yoda Species - Won't ever happen as the engine can only accept the 8 body shapes already in game.

- Wookie (Chewbacca) - Also won't happen for the same reason above.

- Kel Dor (Plo Koon) - Another race that can do with some overhaul, different face masks, markings and the like.

- Kaminooan (The cloners who created the Republic's grand army) - Again won't happen as it falls into the same category as Wookie and the yoda species.

- Mon Calamari (IT'S A TRAP!) - Like Kel Dor and Nautolans, Mon Cal are also easily doable.

 

EMPIRE

- Uson Vong - Non Canon, completely so. Also a few thousand years in the wrong direction.

- Rodian (Greedo) - Rodians can be apart of any side and they are doable as well with the body shapes so long as they are limited to shapes 1 and 2. I mean when was the last time you saw a fat or a muscular Rodian?

- Jawa (Well... Jawas) - The empire think of the Jawas as detestable and neither would they be seen as worthy to be apart of the empire. Besides this like Wookies and other races that fit outside the 8 body shapes, it isn't possible.

- Trandoshan (Bossk) - Trandoshans i can see as Smugglers and Bounty Hunters, but i can't see them being Republic or empire material. The problem is, there is exactly nothing on Female Trandoshans so that makes it especially difficult.

- Kaleesh (General Grievous) - It is possible to have Kaleesh as well, so long as they have a range of ornemental bone masks

- Thisspiasian (Oppo Rancisis) - They aren't even humanoid. You'd have better luck trying to get Jawas than a snake like creature into the game.

Edited October 25, 2018 by Celise

[Adric_the_Red]

Very early in the game the devs said flat out they would not introduce any species that can't speak "Galactic Basic" as a playable species. Reason being they actually tried it in beta, specifically as a Wookiee, and decided that it got just too annoying in very short order.

 

So cross Wookiee, Trandoshan, Rodian, and ... whatever else ... off your wish list.

 

Then again, the current set of devs may not share that assessment, so who know?

Edited October 25, 2018 by Adric_the_Red

[BlueShiftRecall]

Very early in the game the devs said flat out they would not introduce any species that can't speak "Galactic Basic" as a playable species. Reason being they actually tried it in beta, specifically as a Wookiee, and decided that it got just too annoying in very short order.

 

I would like to test that theory of how quickly it can be annoying.

[Eshvara]

Evocii is never in anyone's list! I want Evocii!!

[Goreshaga]

I would like to test that theory of how quickly it can be annoying.

Considering that i feel like doing some wookie carpet after a few seconds of hearing Bowdar talk, i'd say that my limit is pretty low

 

Evocii is never in anyone's list! I want Evocii!!

Sorry, i find them pretty, hum, ugly, and would not want to play as one of them, especially considering the way they're treated everywhere they go.

But well, if they're somehow made available one day, i'll just never use one of them.

[Eshvara]

Sorry, i find them pretty, hum, ugly, and would not want to play as one of them, especially considering the way they're treated everywhere they go.

But well, if they're somehow made available one day, i'll just never use one of them.

 

Nooooooooooooooooooooo, the women are adorable!! And just imagine, becoming a powerful Sith/Jedi with the background you have with being an Evocii... It's amazing!! Treated as worthless trash by everyone, now risen to the top of the ranks just to trample over all that used to over you.

 

Ahhhhh, epic!! (imo) :rak_03:

[Goreshaga]

Nooooooooooooooooooooo, the women are adorable!! And just imagine, becoming a powerful Sith/Jedi with the background you have with being an Evocii... It's amazing!! Treated as worthless trash by everyone, now risen to the top of the ranks just to trample over all that used to over you.

 

Ahhhhh, epic!! (imo) :rak_03:

Well, yeah that could be fun, but i really don't like how they look though

[Eshvara]

Well, yeah that could be fun, but i really don't like how they look though

 

Eh, I understand!

[Azterion]

Adding my opinion in red within the quote.

 

While I understand what you're saying, it seems predicated on the idea of the devs not having to do any work. They are payed for this, you know lol. Besides, most animator Star Wars fans do it for free on their spare time, so it's not even expensive to do.

 

Wookies are already an available model in the game and they should be adding new body types anyway. Right now we only have bodies that range from:

 

- Tiny

- Skinny

- ROIDS

- Lunchbox

 

Where's an Anakin Skywalker or Han Solo build for humanoids? What about an Obi-wan or Qui-Gon build??? How about getting new species with new builds to increase the game's variety?? Wookies and Kaminooans would create greater character diversity? They've had no trouble adding different species into the various cutscenes throughout the game, so it's absolutely no trouble making them playable characters. Let's get those in the game already.

 

As for Jawas, this is thousands of year ago: they chose that timeline specifically because it gave them a great deal of freedom to explore ideas. Having short, unscrupulous little tinkerers on the Empire wouldn't be so far fetched. Just look how far the Rakata species fell in such a short galactic time span: who knows what could have happened to Jawas along the way. The Empire is already known to ally with bountyhunters so I don't see a problem them or Trandoshans. I suppose the Vong may not be possible, but pretty much everything else on the list is. What good is an MMORPG that doesn't evolve?

[Azterion]

Very early in the game the devs said flat out they would not introduce any species that can't speak "Galactic Basic" as a playable species. Reason being they actually tried it in beta, specifically as a Wookiee, and decided that it got just too annoying in very short order.

 

So cross Wookiee, Trandoshan, Rodian, and ... whatever else ... off your wish list.

 

Then again, the current set of devs may not share that assessment, so who know?

 

I've never heard that before but it doesn't make much sense. Let the players decide what they want in that regard. A person who really wants to play a Wookie already knows what they're getting into: lots of RRrrrRWWrRrrrrr

[Azterion]

Adding my opinion in red within the quote.

 

 

Oh and btw, I forgot to mention: This entire GAME is non-canon, so that's not a valid argument, and the Vong were present in the Old republic days. This YouTube vid explains

 

[JediBoadicea]

I remember reading and hearing all sorts of comments from the devs about how challenging it is to create new species (such as the work it took to get Togruta in game), for reasons related to the game engine and how it makes things complicated that don't from the outside seem like they ought to be. As a consequence, I admit I've rather given up on the hope of seeing any truly alien new species being added, much though I too would love to be able to play a Nautolan or a Duros or a Bothan.

 

That being said, I have not given up hope on Near Human options, and as such, in here yet another thread asking for more customizability options (which I should hope would make the dev team realize this is still very much an in demand profit opportunity), I'll point to this post in the Suggestions forum in which I and some others suggested either appearance option unlocks or a whole new Near Human race to play. At very least it should be easy to get new skin color, hair color, eye color, and tattoo options into the game for baseline Human models; I would be happy just to be able to play Zeltrons or Kiffar or Pantorans. If that thought appeals to anyone it else doesn't hurt to bump the thread (even if it usually feels like General Discussion is the only forum that gets read).

[LeMage]

I'd like some good content first, then fix a few things that might be broke (still) and I want another Astromech droid first too. One that I can tell apart from the other 999 I have that don't see the light of day.