Jesseriah Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 (edited) I have to admit one of the main reasons (storywise) why i didnt liked kotfe/kotet very much was: a) that we had a, in my eyes, (storywise) REALLY good expansion around the Emperor with SoR, only to get a halfhearted continuation where BW abandoned their whole story around Vitiate (as he dissappears without a reason) and we had to face a "mystic, new named Emperor" b) that we really got to kill off the allmighty Valkorion (after it was stated that he's indeed the new Vitiate - as i found the idea itself silly enough) So i would be MORE than happy if Vitiate would return, hopefully to NOT kill him again (in a ridicioulous way with the two, for me, most hated characters in the last 2 expansions since Koth and Lana / Theron -_-) Edited January 6, 2018 by Jesseriah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notanjelika Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 One problem: the "gods" of Zakuul are just some droids created by someone and programmed to think they are gods - for example Tyth. So, what makes you think Scyvva ,Izax and Zildrog are ..real people and not some machines too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ioue Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 One problem: the "gods" of Zakuul are just some droids created by someone and programmed to think they are gods - for example Tyth. So, what makes you think Scyvva ,Izax and Zildrog are ..real people and not some machines too? Good question. Who or what made these "Gods"? Who is the God of the Gods? Just how did the Emporer come across them? When did the Emporer see its potential? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notanjelika Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Good question. Who or what made these "Gods"? Who is the God of the Gods? Just how did the Emporer come across them? When did the Emporer see its potential? My suspicion is the giant droids were created either on Iokath or by Czerka Corporation - after all CZ created another giant cyborg thing - The Vigilant. About the "God of Gods" - what if Zildrog is actually the Scorekeeper, goddess of Trandoshans? Think about it.. Zildrog is " a mythical serpent God" , thats how Senya describes it. God/Goddess. Serpent/trandoshan = reptiles, so there is a chance of Scorekeeper and Zildrog to be the same person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulsutherland Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Kephess is Zildrog? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notanjelika Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Kephess is Zildrog? Not necessarily Kephress, but another huge Trandoshan. If they introduce Zildrog as a huge droid, then the Heralds are idiots, you cannot mistake a DROID for a SNAKE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulsutherland Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 What if the Gravestone is Zildrog? That was in the swamp for who knows how long? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notanjelika Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 What if the Gravestone is Zildrog? That was in the swamp for who knows how long? That would make Zildrog and the Gravestone a Hive Ship from Stargate Atlantis ( hives were bio mechanical capital ships) or Lexx ( from the amateur sci-fi tv series Lexx, also a bio-mechanical ship). Anyway, your idea is interesting but kinda hard to integrate in SWTOR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulsutherland Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 That would make Zildrog and the Gravestone a Hive Ship from Stargate Atlantis ( hives were bio mechanical capital ships) or Lexx ( from the amateur sci-fi tv series Lexx, also a bio-mechanical ship). Anyway, your idea is interesting but kinda hard to integrate in SWTOR. It may have been that thing that was jettisoned into space behind Lana and Vaylin when they were fighting. (can't remember what it's called) The thing with the red eggs, in the room Koth put a bomb on the Gravestone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gelious Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 It is said that Izax has two forms, his form of Izax and his form of Zildrog. Where exactly is that said and by who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishpeople Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 This seems very likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbilityDrain Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Not necessarily Kephress, but another huge Trandoshan. If they introduce Zildrog as a huge droid, then the Heralds are idiots, you cannot mistake a DROID for a SNAKE. What if it's a snake droid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbilityDrain Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Where exactly is that said and by who? It's in the codex entries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ardrossan Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 A good theory, and as others mentioned, a good way to bring back Kira and Scourge if the the secret weapon is Vitiate. The duality of the theory also connects to the duality of Revan which was overused in SOR. I say overused, but of course, recycling plots is what BW does. I'd like Vitiate to stay gone, but this all makes too much sense. If they have Vitiate's Tenebrae body stashed away somewhere, I hope that there is limitations placed on it. It's "a weapon of mass destruction" - in theory. Perhaps he has no memory, or all the body jumping has shredded his spirit a la Voldemort and given him something like PTSD. If the Chiss are able to objectify him in this way, and since he hasn't come out himself, then there must be some reason that he can't, or won't, hence the need for limitations [apart from player fatigue that it's literally the same damn thing over and over again ad nauseum]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbilityDrain Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 A good theory, and as others mentioned, a good way to bring back Kira and Scourge if the the secret weapon is Vitiate. The duality of the theory also connects to the duality of Revan which was overused in SOR. I say overused, but of course, recycling plots is what BW does. I'd like Vitiate to stay gone, but this all makes too much sense. If they have Vitiate's Tenebrae body stashed away somewhere, I hope that there is limitations placed on it. It's "a weapon of mass destruction" - in theory. Perhaps he has no memory, or all the body jumping has shredded his spirit a la Voldemort and given him something like PTSD. If the Chiss are able to objectify him in this way, and since he hasn't come out himself, then there must be some reason that he can't, or won't, hence the need for limitations [apart from player fatigue that it's literally the same damn thing over and over again ad nauseum]. The devs confirmed during Vallk's live stream interview with them that the immortal emperor is definitely dead now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilkat Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 The devs confirmed during Vallk's live stream interview with them that the immortal emperor is definitely dead now. Yeah, but BW has said that about a character before. After DA2, they said Hawke's story was over, but then had Hawke feature pretty prominently in the first part of DAI. I'd take that with a grain of salt... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlazeTomahawk Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Yeah, but BW has said that about a character before. After DA2, they said Hawke's story was over, but then had Hawke feature pretty prominently in the first part of DAI. I'd take that with a grain of salt... Companies love to lie to us... Cumberbachs character is NOT Khan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JYthelifesaver Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 You know, you might have been on to something with this theory. Maybe if there was no budget or staff issues at BW this may have actually played out. In any case, I thoroughly enjoyed reading this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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