Vegamann Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 (edited) Hello, I am a new player and recently started subbing as I find the game quite fun. But it seems empty, when im around the world and in the fleet I never usually see anyone. I come from WoW as an MMO-player and there was always places to hang out, Ironforge(back in the day), Orgrimmar as horde and Stormwind as alliance, wether it was duelling outside the city or afk-ing/trading inside, point is there was always places you did not feel alone in the game and you would bump into people every now and then questing(alot of people in the end game areas). How is this in comparrison to swtor? Is there somewhere to hang out? Duel? Meet other players? Or is it just that the game is dying and everyone is leaving? Edited July 31, 2017 by Vegamann Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lammia Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Which server did you create your character on? Maybe you chose one that is not very populated. If you share where you reside (EU, NA East/West, APAC), we could suggest a more populated server for your location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegamann Posted July 31, 2017 Author Share Posted July 31, 2017 Which server did you create your character on? Maybe you chose one that is not very populated. If you share where you reside (EU, NA East/West, APAC), we could suggest a more populated server for your location. I created my characters on Tomb of Freedom Nadd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlazeSeyton Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 I created my characters on Tomb of Freedom Nadd Tomb of Freedon Nadd is a ded server. Pop to the Red Eclipse or Ebon Hawk where they are more populated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threjyan Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 I created my characters on Tomb of Freedom Nadd and this is exactly what new players should not have to put up with. there isnt a sign warning its close to empty server(s) for those playing for several years they now exactly where to transfer or which are not ok servers, but prolly somone liked the name or looked for pvp server and got stuck in there. ok transfers are quite cheap but even so.. merge servers BW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegamann Posted July 31, 2017 Author Share Posted July 31, 2017 and this is exactly what new players should not have to put up with. there isnt a sign warning its close to empty server(s) for those playing for several years they now exactly where to transfer or which are not ok servers, but prolly somone liked the name or looked for pvp server and got stuck in there. ok transfers are quite cheap but even so.. merge servers BW Well, atleast the server is dead and not the game... but yea I agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merovejec Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 and this is exactly what new players should not have to put up with. there isnt a sign warning its close to empty server(s) for those playing for several years they now exactly where to transfer or which are not ok servers, but prolly somone liked the name or looked for pvp server and got stuck in there. ok transfers are quite cheap but even so.. merge servers BW Yeah, the idea Bioware had that "new ppl will fill in the servers" was terrible and its not working, it only scares the people away if they see the game has no players. Those who do not bother to go to reddit or forums to ask about population will most probably leave the game right away. its simply sad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveTheCynic Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 or looked for pvp server Without realising that that doesn't exist any more in this game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegamann Posted July 31, 2017 Author Share Posted July 31, 2017 and this is exactly what new players should not have to put up with. there isnt a sign warning its close to empty server(s) for those playing for several years they now exactly where to transfer or which are not ok servers, but prolly somone liked the name or looked for pvp server and got stuck in there. ok transfers are quite cheap but even so.. merge servers BW Wich one is better? Both PVP/PVE? Or is it same same? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merovejec Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Well, atleast the server is dead and not the game... but yea I agree If you only started you can either start from scratch on The Red Eclipse or transfer your toons, if you subbed you should ahve 500 cc and one trasnsfer is 90 cartel coins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merovejec Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Wich one is better? Both PVP/PVE? Or is it same same? There is no PVP/PVE anymore, you have instances, you are by default in the PVE instance where you cant PVP, then you can swap instances to PVP, which are mostly empty, but you can PVP there. This way all servers are practically PVP and PVE servers now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkhonn Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 If you only started you can either start from scratch on The Red Eclipse or transfer your toons, if you subbed you should ahve 500 cc and one trasnsfer is 90 cartel coins. Transfers cost 150cc when I looked yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eshvara Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 (edited) Transfers cost 150cc when I looked yesterday. That's only from NA to EU, iirc! Within EU or within US it should be 90cc Edited July 31, 2017 by Eshvara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkhonn Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Wich one is better? Both PVP/PVE? Or is it same same? PVP is mainly something you que for. It is just like the group finder option for flashpoints and operations, only for pvp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lammia Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 I created my characters on Tomb of Freedom Nadd Transfer (or make a new toon, since you just started, you shouldn't have much to re-do) to The Red Eclipse. It's the most populated European server. I'm on TRE, PvP queues pop often (more so if you're Imperial) if you're into PvP. PvP instances on planets could still be empty. Open world PvP doesn't seem to work here much, but I don't do that, so don't quote me on that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUXs Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 and this is exactly what new players should not have to put up with. there isnt a sign warning its close to empty server(s) for those playing for several years they now exactly where to transfer or which are not ok servers, but prolly somone liked the name or looked for pvp server and got stuck in there. ok transfers are quite cheap but even so.. merge servers BW AGREED 100%!!! Merge the servers. Close the dead ones. It's ludicrous that any new player should ever have to make a post like this. For every one post like this, how many 100's don't post at all and just assume what they experienced is 'typical' and they quit without giving it a second thought? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lammia Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Oh ffs, stop turning another thread to your holy "merge the servers" crusade Help the OP or not, but this is not about you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUXs Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Oh ffs, stop turning another thread to your holy "merge the servers" crusade Help the OP or not, but this is not about you. I'm confused...did you happen to read the original post? He's complaining about an empty server...or "world" as he called it. How do you not see the correlation between that and "we need server mergers"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertthebard Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 I'm confused...did you happen to read the original post? He's complaining about an empty server...or "world" as he called it. How do you not see the correlation between that and "we need server mergers"? Merge the dead server instead? I'm not willing to expend the money needed for double the character slots I currently have so that someone can get a faster PvP pop, when it only costs 90CC to transfer. An alternative is to just close down PvP. It's so dreadfully popular that we have another thread about merges because the OP can't get a pop on a populated server, according to him, anyway. It serves no purpose, other than leading to periodic nerfs for "balance" anyway. Winning means nothing, losing means nothing == PvP means nothing. If "But it's fun" was a valid argument, then the poster of that other thread wouldn't be having any issues with queue pops, again, according to him, on a populated server. After all, if it's fun, people would be doing it enough to get queue pops, yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUXs Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Merge the dead server instead? I'm not willing to expend the money needed for double the character slots I currently have so that someone can get a faster PvP pop, when it only costs 90CC to transfer. An alternative is to just close down PvP. It's so dreadfully popular that we have another thread about merges because the OP can't get a pop on a populated server, according to him, anyway. It serves no purpose, other than leading to periodic nerfs for "balance" anyway. Winning means nothing, losing means nothing == PvP means nothing. If "But it's fun" was a valid argument, then the poster of that other thread wouldn't be having any issues with queue pops, again, according to him, on a populated server. After all, if it's fun, people would be doing it enough to get queue pops, yes? I like how you're too cheap to accommodate your 50 toons, but you have no issue asking others to pay so you don't have to. It's not about PvP either. It's about anything group related. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyrra_T Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 I like how you're too cheap to accommodate your 50 toons, but you have no issue asking others to pay so you don't have to. It's not about PvP either. It's about anything group related. Who says he has 50 toons? If you merge them into a mega server that could easily be 100 or more for a lot of people. And yes, one person paying 90cc to move is a lot cheaper than many deciding which characters they can play because you can't HAVE 100 characters on a server. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertthebard Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 I like how you're too cheap to accommodate your 50 toons, but you have no issue asking others to pay so you don't have to. It's not about PvP either. It's about anything group related. I'm not seeing a problem on Shadowlands. Haven't tried any group stuff today, but even doing heroics I was tripping over people on both factions. So yeah, I don't want to, as I pointed out in the "make a decision" thread, make sacrifices for someone else. 500 coins a month for a sub is 5 transfers, with some change left over. Add a security key, for those that don't already have it, and it's even easier to move all of one's toons where they'll be happier. It goes deeper than character slots too. I don't want to re-invest the hours I have in decorating my SHs, I've already done the work, and since I'm not observing a problem, why should I want to do it again? Why should I have to scramble to rename toons, if it comes up, which it will, just with my own toons, some have the same name for "tracking" reasons, when I'm not having the issue that seems to pop up every 3-4 months. Every time it's the death knell for swtor, until it isn't, and then BAM, it's back again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUXs Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 It goes deeper than character slots too. I don't want to re-invest the hours I have in decorating my SHs, I've already done the work, and since I'm not observing a problem, why should I want to do it again? Why should I have to scramble to rename toons, if it comes up, which it will, just with my own toons, some have the same name for "tracking" reasons, when I'm not having the issue that seems to pop up every 3-4 months. Every time it's the death knell for swtor, until it isn't, and then BAM, it's back again. Because you don't play in a vacuum. That's the problem with MMOs - even if something doesn't effect you, it can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUXs Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Who says he has 50 toons?The point is, it doesn't matter how many toons he actually has. Ultimately, what is best for the health of this game is what needs to happen...I believe that to be mergers. ESPECIALLY merging and closing the servers we all consider to be "dead". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertthebard Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 The point is, it doesn't matter how many toons he actually has. Ultimately, what is best for the health of this game is what needs to happen...I believe that to be mergers. ESPECIALLY merging and closing the servers we all consider to be "dead". It matters to me. However, the solution is simple, except for that guy that can't seem to get pops for PvP on a populated server, transfer toons. It's cheap, and it's been cheap for a long time. If "it's what's good for the health of the game" then surely you won't mind redecorating your SH or deleting excess toons because you can't buy enough slots to accommodate them all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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